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    So, you consider a show with no foreseeable end in sight is better than a show with an established end date and clear path of story..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    So, you consider a show with no foreseeable end in sight is better than a show with an established end date and clear path of story..
    Well, clear is arguable, but I've never been high on the whole, "This is where the story begins, this is where it ends, now let's make it" in regards to television shows. I like my shows to have the freedom to evolve indefinitely, like Smallville for instance (even though everybody hates Smallville except me and Vanilla Bear). When I want a succinct story with a planned beginning and end I prefer movies or books.

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    Well you don't have a clear vision of how long a show should last you get Heroes season 3.

    --and for that matter LOST season 3.

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    Three hours and 23 minutes to go...by my clock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Well you don't have a clear vision of how long a show should last you get Heroes season 3.

    --and for that matter LOST season 3.
    A show with a definite end is just a really long movie. I'd rather wait for the whole thing to end, download all of them, and watch them in a 7 day marathon.

    The reason Lost is so silly to follow is because it doesn't ever tie up any loose ends. Other shows, say Prison Break, tie up everything at the end of each season. To be honest, I'd say you could watch Prison Break in any particular order (season wise) and it would still make sense.

    As for Heroes, I wouldn't say quite the same, but it's a whole lot closer than Lost.

    ...in other news...holy shit last night was awesome.

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    Seems Heroes has become season 2 of Prison Break.

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    Damn, I didn't know Heroes was back. Time to get downloading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoXRider31 View Post
    A show with a definite end is just a really long movie. I'd rather wait for the whole thing to end, download all of them, and watch them in a 7 day marathon.

    The reason Lost is so silly to follow is because it doesn't ever tie up any loose ends. Other shows, say Prison Break, tie up everything at the end of each season. To be honest, I'd say you could watch Prison Break in any particular order (season wise) and it would still make sense.
    But then it's just a 24 or other season-arc serialized shows.

    LOST has an overarching mythology, but it also has season-arcs and many other sub-plots.

    They opened the hatch at the end of season 1, boom, season 2 premier you know what's in it. Who was in the coffin at the end of season 3? Season 4 finale gave you that answer. Who is on the freighter? You get that answer.

    You get answers when you need them, not when you want them. What loose ends haven't really be tied?

    Way to bring up prison break though, a show that's getting canceled for going no where.

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    Damn, last night wasn't bad at all. I like how there was no time jumping to give us a "glimpse" of the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    But then it's just a 24 or other season-arc serialized shows.

    LOST has an overarching mythology, but it also has season-arcs and many other sub-plots.

    They opened the hatch at the end of season 1, boom, season 2 premier you know what's in it. Who was in the coffin at the end of season 3? Season 4 finale gave you that answer. Who is on the freighter? You get that answer.

    You get answers when you need them, not when you want them. What loose ends haven't really be tied?

    Way to bring up prison break though, a show that's getting canceled for going no where.
    Arguing over this is rather silly because I doubt anything I say will change your mine as well as vice versa.

    Needless to say, I enjoy Heroes more than Lost.

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    Debates aren't about changing minds, just showing you how you're wrong.

    Regardless, I like the potential of this season.

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    That was a nice episode last night. They at least kept it mostly centered on the original characters/their twin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Debates aren't about changing minds, just showing you how you're wrong.
    And therefore changing minds. I am downloading Heroes as we speak. Any mention of this episode has been in good light, so I have high hopes.

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    Finally got round to watching it, holy shit that was good. Ando cycle was awesome. This series has some serious potential, I will wait till a few episodes in before I get my hopes up but this might just be season 1 quality.

    How badass was Sylar? I love it when they try to capture him and it looks like he is going down, then he goes "oh no you didn't" and dishes out a savage raping. I hope that is the Sylar we see throughout the series. I don't care if he is good or bad guy, but when he is a badass he is awesome to watch.

    It looks like they may have decided to ditch the same old "here is da future, now lets not make dat happn kk?", I hope we don't see any of that, as good as it was in s1, it shouldn't have got reused the way it did. We have no idea where this one is going to go and I for one am glad, if that episode was anything to go by, its straight ahead to awesome station.

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    With Sylar, he's going to become a good guy...but for all the wrong reasons. After the "hunt" is over, he'll go back to being bad.
    I hear the voices inside my head. They counsel me. They understand. They talk to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gismo View Post
    It looks like they may have decided to ditch the same old "here is da future, now lets not make dat happn kk?", I hope we don't see any of that, as good as it was in s1, it shouldn't have got reused the way it did. We have no idea where this one is going to go and I for one am glad, if that episode was anything to go by, its straight ahead to awesome station.
    I guess we lost our time-travelers (thank god)

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    Hiro will eventually get his power back.
    Daphne can go back in time with Ando.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi View Post
    With Sylar, he's going to become a good guy...but for all the wrong reasons. After the "hunt" is over, he'll go back to being bad.
    I'd prefer to see him good for the bad reasons. IMO he is just much better to watch when he is being a badass.

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    Exactly my point. It's like what he did against the goons that tried to catch him. He killed them, making him bad...but he killed the enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi View Post
    Exactly my point. It's like what he did against the goons that tried to catch him. He killed them, making him bad...but he killed the enemy.
    I hope we see more of it. I really do want to see some more Sylar rampages against Nathans goons. I personally love any plot that has a badass badguy in essence helping the good guys through a mutual dislike of the enemy. Tis why I loved X2. You can really root for the bad guy.

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    I have a feeling that by the end of the season, they're going to try to convince us that what Nathan's doing is a good thing.

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    I am pretty sure that at the very least there will be a better reasoning for his current stance.
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    Just caught the last 2 episodes, and so far so good. At last we got a glimpse of the future, I wondered how long that would take, that said I like how it is going.

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    In my honest opinion, this show has now crossed the line into really bad. I've watched the show since episode 1 and it was really good then, but now it just sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick2.1 View Post
    In my honest opinion, this show has now crossed the line into really bad. I've watched the show since episode 1 and it was really good then, but now it just sucks.
    This is my opinion.

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    This past weeks episode sucked balls, i'm willing to wait for next weeks to be much better but I'm just going to finish the season since I've already watched every episode up till now.

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    I always tend to just watch a show and just accept it for what it is. A show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janglez View Post
    I always tend to just watch a show and just accept it for what it is. A show.
    That's right, now I remember you. The guy that has no opinion on anything. That's right, that's why I remember I hate you.

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    It certainly has become slightly less compelling.

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    Sylar having a sidekick sucks a bit. I prefer him to be a loner badass motherfucker. I hope he kills that kid, I'd hate him to turn all good. Sylar taking on the government is awesome, he can be a badass yet he is fighting the bad guys, having this kid involved will screw with it.

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    Our DVR recorded Heroes for me. I still haven't watched and I think this will be the first time I don't really care if I do.

    I think it's official

    I've given up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Our DVR recorded Heroes for me. I still haven't watched and I think this will be the first time I don't really care if I do.

    I think it's official

    I've given up.
    Wait!! Don't just yet. After seeing a few more I think it might just have been a shaky start to the volume. I sense a change in the wind, this could get good again.
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    Yeah, reports from Mr. Ausiello, my go to guy for spoilers, says this season gets quite good.

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    I really hope parkman get blown to bits, all I care for right now.

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    I read on IMDB that the final episode of season 3 is called "I am Sylar", which sounds like an orgy of awesome and brilliance. A name that epic deserves something special. It better live up to my expectations. Although I doubt it will.

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    OH shit episode 19 was good. First one in ages where the ending left me gagging for more. My face lit up when that baldy bulldog gets home after pushing Nathan out of the window and finds the bunny rabbit waiting for him. I can't wait to see Sylar destroy him.

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    They're right, Im watching the 2 latest episodes and it's becoming much better.

    BTW I believe Rebel is Micah? Any other opinions? I'm still watching the latest episodes so if it gets revealed by the end of this one then woopsie my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crapoo16 View Post
    They're right, Im watching the 2 latest episodes and it's becoming much better.

    BTW I believe Rebel is Micah? Any other opinions? I'm still watching the latest episodes so if it gets revealed by the end of this one then woopsie my bad.
    Rebel is probably Hana Gitleman.

    She only had a small role in Season 1 of the tv show, but is featured in some of the supplemental comics.

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    i have been suspecting hana for a while now.

    although we haven't seen micah for a while, so it could be the two of them working together. we know they've had contact.

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    heh, i just got the pun in the name of last episode, "shades of grey"

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