Thread: The War on Child Porn: A witch hunt?

Originally Posted by Kal El

Yes I do. I just see no point in joining into an argument where my thoughts have already basically been stated by others. I've already stated my opinion on the previous page.

If you really want what should be considered sexually mature, anybody can be sexually mature at any given age between 15 and 20. That is why the age of 18 is decided for legally being an adult, if sexually mature was a driving point to decide what is a child, and what is an adult, we'd probably have a load of 16 and 17 year old women in the porn industry. If you're able to reproduce, then sexually you are mature. Emotionally mature? Not so much. Sexual maturity and emotional maturity happen at different times.

I don't "want to know what should be considered sexually mature" and I'm not saying that people should be legal adults once they're sexually mature. I'm arguing against that. I agree with you about drawing the line at 18. I'm trying to get UnreasonablyReasonable to explain his criteria for legal adulthood, since he's the one saying that it should be whenever someone is sexually mature. Why are you trying to explain to me why the line is drawn at 18? Why are you trying to explain to me why doesn't make sense to conflate adulthood with sexual maturity?

This is what I mean when I say it sounds like you don't know what this discussion is about.

Originally Posted by Syme

I don't "want to know what should be considered sexually mature" and I'm not saying that people should be legal adults once they're sexually mature. I'm arguing against that. I agree with you about drawing the line at 18. I'm trying to get UnreasonablyReasonable to explain his criteria for legal adulthood, since he's the one saying that it should be whenever someone is sexually mature. Why are you trying to explain to me why the line is drawn at 18? Why are you trying to explain to me why doesn't make sense to conflate adulthood with sexual maturity?

This is what I mean when I say it sounds like you don't know what this discussion is about.

I wasn't attacking your points Syme, I should have not quoted you, I was just basically restating facts in this thread so UR would wake up and smell the roses. If a 10 year old can't even handle the thought of handling a girlfriend, I do not believe a 10 year old is sexually mature. I don't know why UR even tried using a 10 year old as a subject of his argument. And I was just raising another question that this entire subject has made me ponder: what is maturity? Obviously I could go look it up in a dictionary, but I don't think I believe anybody is ever "mature."

Originally Posted by Kal El

I wasn't attacking your points Syme, I should have not quoted you, I was just basically restating facts in this thread so UR would wake up and smell the roses. If a 10 year old can't even handle the thought of handling a girlfriend, I do not believe a 10 year old is sexually mature. I don't know why UR even tried using a 10 year old as a subject of his argument. And I was just raising another question that this entire subject has made me ponder: what is maturity? Obviously I could go look it up in a dictionary, but I don't think I believe anybody is ever "mature."

Oh.. in that case, I apologize. I thought you were trying to convince me of the same thing that I was saying to UR.

Originally Posted by Kal El

I wasn't attacking your points Syme, I should have not quoted you, I was just basically restating facts in this thread so UR would wake up and smell the roses. If a 10 year old can't even handle the thought of handling a girlfriend, I do not believe a 10 year old is sexually mature. I don't know why UR even tried using a 10 year old as a subject of his argument. And I was just raising another question that this entire subject has made me ponder: what is maturity? Obviously I could go look it up in a dictionary, but I don't think I believe anybody is ever "mature."

I didn't bring a 10 year old into the subject of my argument. All I said was that people in that have double digit ages are capable of handling concepts, nothing more. I didn't argue and say they should be allowed to do something that they aren't able to. I'm just saying that young people are much smarter than they get credit for.

Also Syme I already agreed with you, so I don't understand why you're trying to get me to explain something that's now irrelevant? Either way sexual maturity is the age at which one can reproduce, looked it up for you.

Originally Posted by UnreasonablyReasonable

Also Syme I already agreed with you, so I don't understand why you're trying to get me to explain something that's now irrelevant? Either way sexual maturity is the age at which one can reproduce, looked it up for you.

I see that you have agreed with me that the best way to handle age of consent in statutory rape cases is to ameliorate the severity of the offense when the adult thought that the child was an adult. However, as I understand it, you have been making a broader argument in this thread--you have been arguing that legal adulthood in general should be tied to sexual maturity. Is this not correct?

And "the age at which one can reproduce" is the narrowest definition of sexual maturity--it's the one a biologist would use--but it's far from the only one, and it was far from clear that it's what you meant. Again, puberty is a process that lasts years. For the record, by that definition, humans can be "sexually mature" as early as age 6.