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    Quote Originally Posted by Syme View Post
    "Rights" and "morality" are both subjective social constructs, not objective absolutes. So is "absurdity", for that matter.

    While it is true that cultural and religious morality is subjective, I would argue that ethics are not subjective, as only objective statements can enter into logical relations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephekt View Post
    While it is true that cultural and religious morality is subjective, I would argue that ethics are not subjective, as only objective statements can enter into logical relations.
    Sorry, you're going to have to elaborate on this for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephekt View Post
    While it is true that cultural and religious morality is subjective, I would argue that ethics are not subjective, as only objective statements can enter into logical relations.
    By the way, I agree, but it's going to be too hard for me to go into that debate, so I didn't. You're welcome to, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    By the way, I agree, but it's going to be too hard for me to go into that debate, so I didn't. You're welcome to, though.
    What's funny is that I was thinking the same thing before even seeing this post. I remember the last time I tried to dispatch the constant stream of post-modernist hokum. It wasn't pretty.

    So, um, I digress I guess.
    Last edited by ephekt; 04-15-2009 at 08:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephekt View Post
    What's funny is that I was thinking the same thing before even seeing this post. I remember the last time I tried to dispatch the constant stream of post-modernist hokum. It wasn't pretty.

    So, um, I digress I guess.
    I, for one, am interested to hear what you have to say about objectivity. Don't digress!

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