Thread: A Complete Epiphany on Abortion

Originally Posted by benzss

Um, why? Isn't that the whole point of abortion?

No.

If killing is bad because it robs someone of personhood, then killing a baby is no different to killing a two-week-old foetus, which is no different to wanking into a paper cup. None of the above rob anyone of personhood.

Originally Posted by gwahir

No.

If killing is bad because it robs someone of personhood, then killing a baby is no different to killing a two-week-old foetus, which is no different to wanking into a paper cup. None of the above rob anyone of personhood.

Uhhh, sure, I was just questioning why coquavin thinks those kinds of arguments are irrelevant when essentially they're what make up the abortion argument.

Originally Posted by gwahir

No.

If killing is bad because it robs someone of personhood, then killing a baby is no different to killing a two-week-old foetus, which is no different to wanking into a paper cup. None of the above rob anyone of personhood.

I don't view killing as bad because it robs someone of their personhood, I view killing as bad because it ends their line of potential. I'm still pro-abortion, but I recognize that it is murder also.

Originally Posted by Mr. E

I don't view killing as bad because it robs someone of their personhood, I view killing as bad because it ends their line of potential. I'm still pro-abortion, but I recognize that it is murder also.

How exactly do you define it as murder? Just for argument's sake?

Originally Posted by MrShrike

How exactly do you define it as murder? Just for argument's sake?

I'm also curious about your wording, Mr E. You "recognise" it as murder? You don't view it as murder, you recognise it as murder.

To be quite frank, it's not murder. It just isn't by any sensible definition of murder. Any sensible definition of murder would include the killing of a person, and a foetus is not a person at all.