Quote Originally Posted by benzss View Post
Sooo... anybody who argues along those lines is excluded?

What other arguments would you prefer to see?
Any arguments about personhood, etc. Or even something about the value of potential. The question of when the foetus is "alive" is irrelevant, I think, because for it to matter you either have to be a speciesist or a hypocrite.

Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
Not having sex and using contraceptives doesn't end any human line of potential in terms of sperm and eggs. It inhibits the potential of the creation of something with human potential, but that makes the potential obscure enough that in my opinion it doesn't count as murder.
It inhibits potential JUST AS MUCH as aborting a foetus does or killing a baby does. The potential isn't any more "obscure" just because you say so.