Thread: A Complete Epiphany on Abortion

Originally Posted by Fectual~

If we were to adopt this principle then abortion would rarely be an issue. The heart starts beating in a fetus @ 29 days after conception. Most women don't even realize they are even pregnant at this point.

There is a difference between life and human life, along with how each is treated. Human life is defined by the existence of an intelligent conscience, life by a heart beat. However, we kill normal life as needed to feed ourselves, etc. Human life is on a different level, and much more complicated.

I'm really interested to hear what gwahir has to say about the matter currently:

Originally Posted by gwahir

No, that's faulty logic. The consciousness of a foetus is nowhere near advanced enough to distinguish it as "human". Human life begins when a creature that is of the species homo sapien can be considered "alive", which is really either conception or first heart beat (take your pick) -- the human person's life begins when it becomes a person, which is when it can distinguish time and has an idea of itself, as Solecistic said, at about 3 years old.

A human foetus is less sapient than a crab. There is no meaningful reason why the life of a foetus (or a baby) is more valuable than the life of a crab EXCEPT inasmuch as it has far more potential.

Elaborate upon your abortion views please! I'm curious.