Thread: Soviet Social-Imperialism: An Introduction

MrDie, the more I think back over history, the more a fucking idiot you really prove yourself to me.

For starters "Soviet Social Imperialism" is an oxymoron phrase usage. The more I think about, the more I realize that there have been nothing but Imperial entities in history with "social" intentions.

Rome, Holy Roman Empire, Feudal Europe, The colonial empires of France and Spain in the age of discovery and the Victorian era, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, not to mention the Soviet Union. Just give it up already. I could write a novel on all sorts of comparisons that prove my point, but I am not. Just give it up already, you are not proving anything by trying to push your agenda on people who frankly don't give a damn.

Originally Posted by Kal El

For starters "Soviet Social Imperialism" is an oxymoron phrase usage. The more I think about, the more I realize that there have been nothing but Imperial entities in history with "social" intentions.

Except socialism is inherently against imperialism whereas the Soviets claimed to be 'defending' socialism or 'bringing the gains of the October Revolution' to other countries. It is indeed an oxymoron (and the "bringing gains of x" was indeed used by imperial powers in the past), which is why Hoxhaists and Maoists were against it. Congratulations on failing to read.

I made my point very clear in my paragraph. I do not feel the need to repeat myself because you are incoherent.

Originally Posted by Barack Dalai Lama

No, it's very simple: socialism is against imperialism, Lenin clearly condemned it. The Soviet Union however became an imperialist power but claimed it was doings its actions under the veneer of spreading/defending socialism, which some people took seriously. Hoxhaists and Maoists realized how full of shit the USSR was and were against these imperialist acts.

And you are defending China, which in itself after Mao Zedong took power, was an imperialist power per say. It's influence that it exerted over Vietnam and North Korea is timeless. It's claim to Taiwan, is imperialist in nature. Just attempting to spread communism to other countries, in itself is imperialist.

And Albania is one of the poorest countries in Europe with no hope to ever become a larger economic player.

You see, Socialism only works in theory, but greedy intentions, and poor execution shall forever kill any social movement.

You're an idiot. You just don't see the larger picture because you are so lost in your world of Enver Hoxha, which I am sure you have a collection of nude photos of the fucker and get off to him every night.

Originally Posted by Barack Dalai Lama

This is why Hoxha condemned Mao, fyi. He believed that socialism would come into countries gradually at its own pace and that any attempt to "export" the revolution is imperialist and alienates the people of said nation. Just the listed content of this book shows your ignorance of Hoxhaism's development from Maoism.

What makes you think I give a damn about the difference between the two countries? Just look at all the countries in the world that are still Communist. 4 of them are complete failures, and only China is any sort of exception, mostly due to the fact the country adopted some free enterprise into it's country, that and the fact the USA made it easy for companies based in the USA to outsource jobs. Vietnam, North Korea, Albania, and Cuba are all complete failures.

While China's claims to Taiwan are probably imperialist (I would not argue, though you did not mention, that their movement into Tibet was imperialist), the Republic of China did not exactly treat ethnic Taiwanese peoples well once in power, since it always saw itself as China and not Taiwan.

I did not mention Tibet for the shear fact that Tibet has been under Chinese rule for hundreds of years, so there is nothing "imperialist" about it when they have had control of that territory for a great deal of time.

Under Hoxha it developed its first industry, abolished illiteracy, fought for equality for women, fought tribalism, and secured Albanian independence against Greek and Yugoslav claims. It also helped get China into the UN (back when Hoxha and Mao were allied).

And yet it's still one of the poorest countries in Europe. Yes, he did a lot of good, from taking the country from one element of failure to another.