No shit but what I was saying was that if a man and woman are having consensual sex trying to conceive and she changes her mind at the last minute, she either decided it too late and the guy already ejaculated or she would be able to stop in time. If the guy physically restrained her then its rape and no longer is relevant. All I'm fucking saying is that as long as it was consensual that's all that matters and both parties are then equally responsible and there is no reason for a woman to have an unfair position just because they are a woman and carry the baby. Both parties are responsible for the welfare of the child and both should have an equal choice in whether or not to abort. If the woman doesn't want to and the guy does and it was consensual sex then the child is just as much the father's as the mother's. If she still wants to raise this child for whatever reason then she should be forced to take full responsibility over the child.
edit: Now that I saw your edit it just shows me how stupid you are. I have never said anything about rape why do you keep talking about it. I never argued about rape it's wrong and any rapist deserves jail and a terrible death and they obviously have no say in abortion. Yes men are the rapists the vast majority of the time and it's because they are physically stronger and they don't need women to be aroused to rape them.
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