Thread: Paying For Health Care

Originally Posted by Syme

It may translate into having a right to another person's labor, but that person has willingly decided to put themselves into a position where it's their job to provide that labor. So what's the problem? I mean, if you personally feel that you don't have a right to the labor of government employees, that's fine for you, but it's no argument against UHC or any other government program.

Right, I wasn't trying to say it was an argument against it. Just an argument against the thought that it's a right to have healthcare.

As far as UHC goes, John Stossel made every point better than I could hope to in his 20/20 special "Sick in America." It can be seen on Youtube for anyone particularly interested in the matter (though I understand not wanting to watch it, I'm a lazy son of a bitch as well).

http://www.nationalhealthexecutive.c...-know-best.htm

Here's some hilarious reading

So of course there is more of this health care debate in the news recently...especially about people fearing that the big bad government will come and kill you if this bill is passed. Are mudslingers today the greatest spin doctors ever, or are people just getting dumber?

Mouth-breathing idiots are so convinced of the evils of universal health care that they will eagerly and unquestioningly accept whatever lies they are told about it, no matter how ridiculous. E.g., people who fervently believe that Medicare coverage for end-of-life counseling (which is purely voluntary, for fucks sake, and which people already get all the time) means mandatory euthanasia for grandma. I don't think people are actually getting dumber; they're no dumber than they've always been. I just think that this issue is pulling all the dumb ones out of the woodwork and giving them lots of great opportunities to demonstrate how dumb they really are by parroting nonsense that Rush Limbaugh fed them.

EDIT: So yeah, the mudslingers who make up ridiculous shit about UHC are good at what they do.