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    Quote Originally Posted by gismo View Post

    Alot of people take it for granted, waste valuable time with minor complaints. There is a problem with waiting lists for operations. At the moment I am waiting to see someone, god knows how long that will have to take. But I will wait, and I won't complain, as this beats having to pay in full out of my own pocket, I just cannot afford it. Of all the possible uses of tax money, this is probably the least objectionable in my opinion. I feel comforted knowing that people in my country get taken care of when they need it.
    This is because you are not allowed to object to it, under pain of a prison sentence sentence.

    My problem with the NHS is that if it fucks up, you can't go somewhere else. You instead have to pay for the NHS AND for a private hospital if you're (understandably) pissed off with the NHS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benzss View Post
    This is because you are not allowed to object to it, under pain of a prison sentence sentence.

    My problem with the NHS is that if it fucks up, you can't go somewhere else. You instead have to pay for the NHS AND for a private hospital if you're (understandably) pissed off with the NHS.
    NHS does have its (many) problems. America needs to learn from the UK's mistake and form a socialized system that is more efficient and effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittens! View Post
    NHS does have its (many) problems. America needs to learn from the UK's mistake and form a socialized system that is more efficient and effective.
    We also need to learn from what NHS does correctly, since our health care system is FAR more fucked up than yours, as difficult as it may be for you to believe.

    That said, I also believe that kittens should never, ever have to pay for their own health care.


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    Yeah, as many problems as NHS has, the American system has more--again, it leaves 15% of the entire American population (50 million people) totally uninsured, so NHS's problems like waiting lists or whatever are fairly minor in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syme View Post
    Yeah, as many problems as NHS has, the American system has more--again, it leaves 15% of the entire American population (50 million people) totally uninsured, so NHS's problems like waiting lists or whatever are fairly minor in comparison.
    ...and god only knows how much of that 85% "insured" population is severely under-insured. I've heard horror stories of people who thought they had insurance not being able to get necessary medical treatment, and coverage of services by insurance is getting worse and worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benzss View Post
    This is because you are not allowed to object to it, under pain of a prison sentence sentence.

    My problem with the NHS is that if it fucks up, you can't go somewhere else. You instead have to pay for the NHS AND for a private hospital if you're (understandably) pissed off with the NHS.
    That isn't why I find it unobjectionable - I find it one of the least objectional uses because it helps people in need. I won't argue with you, we clearly sit on 2 different sides of the fence, but I just wanted to clear that one up.


    The UK is one of the top 5 richest countries in the world, the general idea behind the NHS (put crudely) is "we are gonna take care of our own". I think this is an important sentiment. And if you are rich enough to do something like this, I do think it is important to go for it. The US is richer than the UK. It has the resources, it can learn from other countries, what they do well and do wrong.

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