Personally, I don't think you should bring guns to school unless you bring enough to share with the rest of the class.
Personally, I don't think you should bring guns to school unless you bring enough to share with the rest of the class.
Last edited by gorefinger; 08-17-2009 at 12:52 PM.
This made me lol, and remember the old elementary school days. (should see the look on a teachers face when ya pull a big bag of candy out of ya back pack to "share with the rest of the class")Originally Posted by gorefinger
Seriously though I gotta agree with annony that open carry tends to freak people out. Also only concealed is allowed in SC with a permit. I think if other people in a college class had went thru the training to get there permit and all that i'd be perfectly comfortable setting there with them armed.
As far as k-12 only the teachers and staff would be applicable under current CWP laws because of age. I do support there right to carry with a permit. My high school also had 2 police officers full time and thats all fine and dandy. However there office was on one end of the building about a 2-3 minute walk in empty hallways. If shit hit the fan and bullets started flying at the opposite end of the building and or upstairs the halls would be crowded with people running there ass off heading for the exits making it much harder for the police officers to respond. An armed teacher could easily bring an end to the situation long before the cops could get there.
"Back in the old, dark days of the internet when men were men, women were men, and children were FBI agents, no one cared what people thought of them"
I would say that cops in a school building will generally be able to respond in time. It might be a 2-3 minute walk to the other end of the building, but if they are responding to gunfire, they sure as shit won't be walking; a 2-3 minute walk is like a 30 second run. I suppose if the shooter(s) happens to start shooting in the very same room where a teacher happens to be packing, then the teacher would be able to respond before the cops managed to run over, but generally, having cops stationed in schools is a pretty sure-fire defense against school shooters. The real issue, and the real reason that allowing teachers to CC might be helpful, is that in many localities it is not practical to permanently station a couple of cops at every school. In populous counties/cities that type of duty can take up literally hundreds of officers every day.
Last edited by Syme; 08-06-2009 at 12:13 AM.
It might be a 30 second run if the halls are empty if everyone is running scared for there life its gonna be a bit harder to get thru the crowd, somewhat akin to going the wrong way down the streets with the running of the bulls. Even if they made it in 30 seconds, it takes very little time to unload a full magazine of ammo into a class room full of students and by then it will be a little late. Having someone that can respond properly right there right then could be a good solution.
"Back in the old, dark days of the internet when men were men, women were men, and children were FBI agents, no one cared what people thought of them"
Hmmm, maybe, but you should also bear in mind that even if ES/HS teachers are allowed to CCW, most of them won't--it's not like there's going to be an armed teacher in every class, so an armed teacher responding to a shooting is probably going to have the same problems getting to the scene that a cop would. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it--the more people around to possibly intervene in a shooting, the better--but what I'm saying is that when schools already have cops stationed at them, armed teachers become decidedly less important as a safety measure. Again, the real issue is that it's often not practical to keep cops at all the schools all the time.
Also, school shootings usually don't produce a flood of people crowding into the halls. The regular procedure is for teachers to keep their students in the class room and try to lock/block the door.
Yep. And I dont know about you, but if I hear shooting out in the hall, or another class down the hall, the last place I want to go is in the hall. Im going out a window.
Unless Im in one of my classes on the 3rd story. Then Im wishing CC on campus was legal.
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