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    I would totally agree that gun owners who talk (or think) about using their guns to kill in defense of their property are irresponsible loons. The only thing you should ever discharge a firearm in defense of is human life. Even if a gun owner doesn't agree with this in principle, it's still the law in most states. I'm also with Sole 100% in finding it distasteful when gun owners seem to derive pleasure from bragging or fantasizing about deadly their guns are. Using a gun for self-defense is a deadly serious matter and it should be treated that way. Having to shoot someone is about as desirable as getting in a bad car accident; it's something you want to avoid at almost all costs.

    But I also have to point out that the evidence supporting the efficacy of self-defense with a gun is not "anecdotal", it's grounded in a plethora of government-provided statistics and reputable, peer-reviewed criminological research. Not that this makes it any less distasteful for gun owners to chub out about killing people, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous D
    AR-15s, which are modeled after the militarys M16 and M4s, were actually designed to INCAPACITATE. THey made them with the idea that if you can wound him, then you can make a few guys have to carry/take care of him, which takes them out of the fight also. Effectively taking 3-4 people out of a fight with one bullet.
    This is actually an urban legend.
    Last edited by Syme; 08-19-2009 at 02:14 PM.

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