Thread: Atheists

Originally Posted by Mad Pino Rage

I don't know if religion will ever fade away. Scientology popped up 50 years ago and is growing stronger every day. Cults will rise and fall and eventually one will break through as a new religion. Established churches will break off and form their own ideas (eg Westboro, FLDL). I don't know but I think growth rate for followers of major organized religions will always be on the rise. I would think that even if aliens visited Earth they would probably try to spread their religion, and I think that we would try to incorporate aliens as being created by God and fit that into religious texts.

heh. well. the way i see it, there are myriad ways human history and development can go. one is towards another "enlightenment", i guess, one which doesn't banish religion (which is absolutely inconceivable) but describes a state where the majority of people have a secular education at a very high standard -- consider that in a hundred years we have NO idea what kids will be able to learn and therefore what will be taught in schools. (I.Q. and general intelligence rises dramatically with every generation; this is a well documented and explainable fact.) i'm not saying religion will vanish, just that the tables will turn and it will, slowly but surely, shrink to a small portion of the power it has today.

to me, that seems something of an inevitability. you KNOW the church is afraid to death of it happening -- that's why they try to halt scientific progress. with each scientific advancement, we need god a little less. all that's required to get religion to have less of a hold is education.

Originally Posted by gwahir

i'm not saying religion will vanish, just that the tables will turn and it will, slowly but surely, shrink to a small portion of the power it has today.

to me, that seems something of an inevitability. you KNOW the church is afraid to death of it happening -- that's why they try to halt scientific progress. with each scientific advancement, we need god a little less. all that's required to get religion to have less of a hold is education.

Well yeah. I'm not expecting religion to ever completely vanish. There will always be crazy, illogical people. I mean for fuck's sake there are still adults who honestly believe the earth is flat.

That's what I meant when I said "we as a society needs to outgrow religion, and honestly I think we're over due". That's not a naive idea.

Originally Posted by KT.

Well yeah. I'm not expecting religion to ever completely vanish. There will always be crazy, illogical people. I mean for fuck's sake there are still adults who honestly believe the earth is flat.

That's what I meant when I said "we as a society needs to outgrow religion, and honestly I think we're over due". That's not a naive idea.

i mean it's naive to think it'll happen. over-optimistic. i'm not saying it shouldn't.

Originally Posted by gwahir

i mean it's naive to think it'll happen. over-optimistic. i'm not saying it shouldn't.

Originally Posted by gwahir

to me, that seems something of an inevitability.

I guess you don't understand what the word " inevitability" means or you are also calling yourself naive.

Seriously gwahir, I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose but your constant condescending attitude is annoying.

you only half-quoted me, kt.

Originally Posted by gwahir

i'm not saying religion will vanish, just that the tables will turn and it will, slowly but surely, shrink to a small portion of the power it has today.

to me, that seems something of an inevitability.

religious thought, i think, will eventually lose the strangehold it has over the developed world. but it won't go away.

Originally Posted by KT.

Seriously gwahir, I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose but your constant condescending attitude is annoying.

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Originally Posted by gwahir

religious thought, i think, will eventually lose the strangehold it has over the developed world. but it won't go away.

Yes. I agree with this. I suppose we're arguing over the extent. I firmly believe that if we're to survive and prosper as a species organized religion (in the developed world at least) will become a fringe element. And I want to believe that this will happen. However I am no psychic and cannot say with 100% accuracy that this will happen.


I suppose what you're saying is that religion will simply become less powerful. It will however still be acceptable to belong to an organized religion.

() yes, that's what I meant
() no, that's not what I meant

I'm not trying to argue with you here. I just want to understand how your point is different than mine.