Thread: If You Were President..

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Nuclear energy has minimal effects on the environment, while coal, solar, and wind energy all have profound effects on the environment.

The Yucca Mountain facility is about as perfect a site for waste storage as you can imagine. It's more than 100 miles from any people and is geologically ideal for an underground facility. Do some fucking research.

You're right. We really should be burying nuclear waste in mountains. Maybe we could put it in Colorado too. We could just dig holes and drain it down some number of miles and pretend it doesn't exist too. The effects of radiation from nuclear waste don't go away in our lifespan.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

This is a fantastic proposal from the near-sighted revisionist historians who refuse to acknowledge that the very concept of marriage was created by religion. While Christianity was not the major religion of the founders, but it was the reason that marriage became an institution of our government. The Church ought to be the ones to define the term marriage as they are the ones who created it. It's simply arrogant tomfoolery of the gay community to demand access to the term and, in turn, reject equal rights to two people who serve an identical purpose with the exception of not having sex (which is, in most states, still a crime.)

Well then let them be allowed the same rights as married couples. Though to make it fair, we really should remove 'married' as a listed status then and change it to 'civil union'.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Socialist faggot get out.

Canada does it. Britain does it. Norway does it. Finland does it. France does it. Australia does it. It's working for them.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Tax credits are an antiquated system which require the government to determine the cost of abatement for all firms and then set the tax rate appropriately, leaving the total level of abatement up for chance. Of course, you don't appear to believe very strongly in the free market so I won't bother fixing the stupid inefficiencies of this suggestion.

I'll give you this one. I'm not up to date on tax credits and that such. The point of what I was saying was that there needs to be some benefit to companies that are trying to change for the better. And I do enjoy the free market, except for when it becomes corrupted and we end up in the financial crisis we have now.

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Punishing the oil companies is punishing every single American with any type of retirement or pension. That will help the economy and help finance you're retarded plan for socialized medicine.

I've often thought about this. How can we move forward when the middle class is struggling? Because I think the reason that the middle class is unwilling to support a lot of this is the cost of it all. But at the same time, the people want a cleaner world. And our government is supposed to do what we want, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Well you obviously put a lot of thought into this so I'm sure that will turn out just fine. Who are you, LBJ? Add government oversight and throw money at your problems and maybe they will go away long enough for the next president to deal with them?

LBJ escalated a war that was useless. And the president that followed was even worse. And Nixon, that president, was the one who got us started on the healthcare system we currently have. Ever listened to the tapes of him?

Originally Posted by Icarus

You're right. We really should be burying nuclear waste in mountains. Maybe we could put it in Colorado too. We could just dig holes and drain it down some number of miles and pretend it doesn't exist too. The effects of radiation from nuclear waste don't go away in our lifespan.

Once again, you're just displaying ignorance. The Yucca Mountain facility is 1. secure to the point that unless its the end of the world anyways, it's utterly safe and 2. necessary only because or moronic, antiquated laws banning Uranium recycling that would allow nuclear facilities to recycle almost all of their waste to the point it has a negligible impact on the environment (less so than, say, clean coal.) Yucca Mountain is a solution to idiotic policies of the past.

Originally Posted by Icarus

Well then let them be allowed the same rights as married couples. Though to make it fair, we really should remove 'married' as a listed status then and change it to 'civil union'.

How does that make it "fair"? It's just a slap in the face to straight couples and the religious right. And once again, how is that fair to same-sex (or even opposite-sex) roommates who aren't having sex? Is the act of sodomy all it takes for the state to bless the relationship? That's inane.

Originally Posted by Icarus

Canada does it. Britain does it. Norway does it. Finland does it. France does it. Australia does it. It's working for them.

Socialist. Socialist. Socialist. Socialist. Socialist. Most Socialist. All of your examples are countries whose governments were built on the basis of egalitarian redistribution of wealth following monarchical control. Find that concept in the Federalist Papers, I defy you.

Originally Posted by Icarus

I'll give you this one. I'm not up to date on tax credits and that such. The point of what I was saying was that there needs to be some benefit to companies that are trying to change for the better. And I do enjoy the free market, except for when it becomes corrupted and we end up in the financial crisis we have now.

There is never a benefit to business if the government is requiring these controls. If there was a net benefit for pollution control in the free market, firms would be voluntarily putting them into place because they would make more money from it (probably due to social consciousness increasing demand for products of companies that enact these controls.)

Furthermore, stricter pollution controls increase the incentive for firms to move their operations from our country to those that have fewer controls. Just like minimum wage, stricter financial filing requirements, and other government-imposed costs.

I don't think you grasp the complexity of a national economy in any way shape or form.

Originally Posted by Icarus

I've often thought about this. How can we move forward when the middle class is struggling? Because I think the reason that the middle class is unwilling to support a lot of this is the cost of it all. But at the same time, the people want a cleaner world. And our government is supposed to do what we want, isn't it?

The government is supposed to secure our right to life and liberty. A government that acts wantonly in the application of the will of 51% is likely to turn tyrant against 49%.

*cough*socialism*cough*

Originally Posted by Icarus

LBJ escalated a war that was useless. And the president that followed was even worse. And Nixon, that president, was the one who got us started on the healthcare system we currently have. Ever listened to the tapes of him?

Did you hear that? That was the sound of the comment going entirely over your head. The point wasn't about foreign policy, it was about LBJ's social philosophy of casually passing legislation and expanding the government to fix any problem that anyone might face.