Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
science itself relies heavily on indoctrination. pretty much everything that you learn, especially in the education system, relies on indoctrinating you in one form or another
I disagree. The way things are taught, sure, but science can be taught and learnt using a Scientific Process, if you don't mind my capitals. Religion can only be taught by indoctrinating. That's what I meant by "relies".

That's the dodgy(est) thing about religion.

I think religion does corrupt. I don't think that's a lens through which I view the world; I think it's a fact, and this is a place I've come to after a lot of reading and arguing.

You say I'm comparing it to shitty religion, but as far as I can tell, that's the only kind there is. I have a problem with the very necessary nature of religion. There's shitty, really really shitty, and not so shitty but still pretty shitty religion.