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    UH OH CHINA IN TROUBLE Barack Dalai Lama's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailor jack View Post
    i didnt say it wasnt a driving factor, i said it wasnt the only factor.
    Except Marxism (which you said my position was, correctly, "classic Marxism") views other factors as being related to the driving factor. What do you think "driving factor" presupposes? It means that it's the main factor, meaning that other factors add on to it. In the Marxist view, the driving factor is the main factor and the other factors are in turn influenced by the driving factor: class, which in itself is the creation of the economic structure of society.

    and the rest which you concluded "that is how we arrived at this situation"; You just freakin' repeated half of this conversation with no point to it. I CAN READ
    No you can't. Not when you assume that Marxists literally believe class directly by itself is the only factor, which I never said it was. Class manifests itself in various ways. Furthermore there was a point to it considering you said:
    all i asked was "do you want to see police beat the crap out of people"
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