Quote Originally Posted by sailor jack View Post
youre just giving me marxist and therefore biased sources.
What does this have to do with anything? It's a Marxist take on the history of ancient Greece. Of course it's going to be biased, just like you claiming that early Greece was capitalist or anyone at all holding an opinion. My point is that you should counter it like you're trying to counter my points.

but it was definately capitalist then.
If it's a tribal society then it is not capitalist. Capitalism, according to Mariam-Webster:
an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
Capitalism requires a state, whereas obviously under tribalism there is no state. We're talking about governments here. It also requires the bourgeoisie class. Trade is not capitalism.

my aim isnt to disprove anything. im just telling you youre not right. neither am i, neither is simon schama neither was hitler. we cannot be right in matters of opinion
I fucked your mother.

Just an opinion, you can't disprove it lolz.