I worked there 3 years ago. The pay was $5.15/hour with a possible 15c raise every six months. So yes, the pay sucks. They pay more at that particular McDs now because minimum wage was increased to $7.15, but they still only pay minimum.Originally Posted by dolanlj
The minimum wage going up is one of the stupidest things an economy can do. All it does is mess up prices and contribute to inflation. It pisses me off when people try to/do push legislation to raise the minimum wage.
Well, it may have not been the best timing to raise the minimum wage, but it hasn't risen in 10 years while the price of everything has.
That doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the economy though.
whenever I go to mcdonalds, I order 2 double cheeseburgers without pickle
they always make us wait in the parking bay because of my "special order". Why does it take 5 extra minutes to not put pickle in?
also where in england are you, i've been to a lot of mcdonalds
Okay, apparently McDonalds is different in the US.
£6 an hour is pretty dam good for a 17 year old who's still at school and only works Saturdays and Sundays. You worked at McDonalds three years ago, so then why does your salary then matter now. I'm also in the UK where McDonalds is a franchised business.
I get paid differently from people who work in the McDonalds in the next town.
It takes longer because trays of burgers are put on the grill one at a time. If you ask for one without a pickle you have to wait will the other orders have been made before your choice goes on the grill.
If you don't want to wait, why not just pick the pickle off yourself?
And I'm in Scotland, not England ;P
Pickles have juice, and once a pickle is on something that thing will forever taste like pickle. That is an often disputed, yet completely factual, fact.
+repping for an explanation to a question that has puzzled me for years
well I mean once you take off the bap and dig around for the pickle (oh boy if I were talking about something else...), you're compromising the integrity of your burger
and that's just not something I dare to do, not with my double cheeseburgers
and ok well i'm not gonna lie and tell you i've been to a Scottish mcdonalds
Oh, and I worked at a 24-hour McDs so I always worked the overnight shifts. I once worked from 7am to 2am the next day with only two breaks while I was seventeen, because my manager needed me to cover someone's shift and he told me he'd fire me if I left. I needed the money and the job so I stayed, but 19 hours with 2 half hour breaks is an incredibly shitty day.
If minimum wage is too low to live off working 40 hour weeks then there is a problem.
It wasn't, provided you lived within your means. Also, the vast majority of people who earn minimum wage are students, and the amount of money they make generally doesn't matter as most of their income is disposable. The problem is our societal nature to live beyond our means, not the minimum wage.
Okay fast food scientists, take this AI :nermy101:
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oh snap
Okay, apparently many things are different in Scotland McD's. Because I have no idea what you're talking about with this pickle issue.
Where I worked this is how a double cheeseburger is made, start to finish:
1. Put 8 regular sized hamburger patties on the grill. The grill is a flat top with a compression plate that pushes down on the patties to cook them. When compression plate rises, you take grill seasoning shaker and shake once over each patty. You then use a spatula to remove the 8 patties from the grill and put them in a plastic tray which is inserted in an electric warming tray. The warming tray counts down from 20minutes. Upon reaching zero, any remaining patties are to be thrown out.
2. Grab hamburger bun, drop each half on either side of the bun toaster. Pull out double cheeseburger wrapper sheet. Once buns drop out the bottom of the toaster, place buns on wrapper.
3. Grab ketchup and mustard dispensers, give top bun one squirt of each.
4. Take small handfull of chopped onions, place on top bun.
5. Grab two pickle slices, place on top bun.
6. Grab two slices of cheese, place one on top bun, one on bottom bun.
7. Using tongs, grab a meat patty from warming tray, place on top of cheese on top bun.
8. Grab cheese off bottom bun, place on other side of meat patty already on the top bun so that it is now sandwiched by cheese slices.
9. Grab another meat patty from warming tray place on top of cheese on top bun.
10. Place bottom bun on top of meat patty.
11. Fold wrapper around sandwich.
From start to finish steps 2-11 usually take about 15-20 seconds.
I don't count step one because if you don't suck, there's already meat cooked.
This.
It takes longer to get them plain or altered because they can't give you one of the 5 they already have made in the standard configuration.
There is no way he should be told to pull ahead for a 15-20 second wait.
we're usually waiting for about 5 - 7 minutes
I call bullshit.
Also the figures about people who are on minimum wage are almost always distorted by the fact that there's many many people on slightly more than minimum wage, even though, in regards to such matters, 5c/h doesn't make all that much difference.
I could live just fine off of minimum wage if I had to. Bullshit overruled.
Also, how many adults do you know who make within $1 of minimum wage? Do you know how many I know? None.
Six dollars... That's like a dollar an hour!
wait what?
irrelevant and pointless, move along
Yes, but it's easy for someone like me or you to live on such a threshold, for someone with a family to support or with some other extraordinary financial situation then it many not be so much.
If there wasn't a minimum wage then plenty of companies would stiff employees even more and you'd get a lot more people below the poverty line.
And of course you don't know any, you've stated numerous times that you're not 'in with the black crowd'. But yeah, I know a fair few. Mostly hairdressers and people who work in bars but also a couple of people who work in terrible city-centre shops that I would not wish to set foot in, let alone spend 10 hours a day trying to earn a living.
this is an outrage
i'm not going to state my opinion on whether or not minimum wage is a good thing, since i really am not certain it does what it's intended to do. however, i will say two things:
1) unless you're the first person in your family to get a college degree, it's usually the case that people who are college bound or have a college degree interact mostly with people who are college bound or have their degree.
so yes, i don't know of too many adults that make minimum wage. then again, i don't know too many adults without a college degree either.
the only way my parents interact with people from classes lower than the middle class is through their rental units, many of which are section 8. it's a real eye-opener to see how the other side lives...
2) the working poor in america was around 1/4 of the population in 2004. (source) there's no reason to think that percentage has decreased. if anything, it's very likely to have gone up.
are 1/4 of your acquaintances working poor? oh, none of them are? then they mustn't exist.
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Hairdressers and bartenders get tips which make them well more than minimum wage. Choosing to have a family before you have your life set up (or at least planned out) is choosing to live beyond your means. You can always get more than one job if you need to. The only effect raising the minimum wage has is speeding up how much the prices of things that people who make minimum wage need go up.
You can live a decent life even if you're poor if you know what you're doing.
I personally am not arguing about the effects of minimum wage. I'm taking issue with your implicit characterization of wealth distribution in America as nothing to be concerned about.
Tips are considered wages for this determination.Hairdressers and bartenders get tips which make them well more than minimum wage.
And if there's no reason to ever suspect that you will get out of poverty, then you can never have children?Choosing to have a family before you have your life set up (or at least planned out) is choosing to live beyond your means. You can always get more than one job if you need to.
Right, and you would know, given that you've earned a meager income without any support from mommy and daddy when say an illness suddenly strikes you or your car breaks down.
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I have been in that position, yes. I still don't have a car, I get $100/ month from my father and nothing from my mother, I'm uninsured and have a chronic autoimmune condition.
Of course in two years I start getting money from the fund my grandparents set up for me, but that doesn't change the way things are right now.
will you two get a room
What do you say sycld? I'll bring the lube
So it's okay that you can't take care of your health condition, I take it? And other people should likewise be okay with being uninsured?
No it doesn't, but at least you're still young and can look forward to earning a real income some day and be able to start a family.Of course in two years I start getting money from the fund my grandparents set up for me, but that doesn't change the way things are right now.
Also, since it's so okay to live like this, you should refuse your father's support as well as the money from your grandparents' fun.
That's okay, I make me own.
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Just because I could continue living the way I do doesn't mean I want to. My principles and beliefs don't keep me from being a flagrant hypocrite. I'm living off the government currently, and will continue to do so until I am capable of being self-sufficient.
And yes, I do think that if you can't afford to start a family then you shouldn't. The world would be a much better place if people followed this rule.
I really am at a loss here. You think the world would be a better place if the government wasn't giving you this money?
So you're fighting against the programs that are not just giving you the money that you're receiving, but to whom you actively petitioned to receive this money?
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Yes. I'm only taking advantage of them because I can. I'd be a stronger person and better off from a character standpoint if I couldn't. Hypocritical: Maybe, but I never claimed to be a perfect person
living on the street would make you a person with more varied experiences, but i don't know if it would make you a "stronger" person per se.
also, once you're on the street, it becomes harder and harder to return to normal life.
also... there was virtually no homelessness in the US before the 1980's.
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I wouldn't be homeless either way
Also, not everything I said in this thread is true, and I don't agree with everything I've said in this thread
yeah cause reagan tore down the hoovervilles
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don't forget taking away funding for mental hospitals. i mean, they can all just live in the street if they aren't sane enough to get a job.
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