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    Not really. Get the right equipment for a small investment (like £100 for a tank and lamps) and you can grow your own with a quick turnaround.

    edit: i say this with some authority because the tanks used and lamps used for keeping snakes can also be used to grow weed
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    Jane I'm not sure I understand the second part of your post.

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    In america we've already got companies farming weed.

    It's call the Mexicans, The Canadians, and the Californians
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    I'm pretty sure that they won't just let you grow your own weed if it were to be legalized. Also, you know that the prices would go up because corporations are generally assholes who charge much more for a product than it is really worth.

    My name is djwolford, and I am an anti-legalization marijuana smoker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkmike View Post
    Jane I'm not sure I understand the second part of your post.
    I'm saying that as it is, people can find out about weed and make an informed choice as to weather they want to do it or not with minimal pressure. Many people grow up feeling an almost necessity to drink in order to fit in with the rest of society. Its not a huge factor but its worth considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benzss View Post
    Not really. Get the right equipment for a small investment (like £100 for a tank and lamps) and you can grow your own with a quick turnaround.

    edit: i say this with some authority because the tanks used and lamps used for keeping snakes can also be used to grow weed
    It's not that easy man, you do not know what you are talking about. One of the arguments against legalization is that everyone will just grow there own. I can personally guarantee that will never happen because it's too damn hard to grow good weed. There are so many factors involved in growing good weed and since each strain reacts differently to nutrients or a specific ph level you need to be knowledgeable enough to recognize problems, differentiate deficiency's from nute burn, etc.

    Also the argument that it will just be commercialized and grown by hjuge corporations in mass quantity resulting in a lower quality of weed is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Anyone who seriously believes that there will be no good weed available to buy from stores and it would all just be mass produced garbage is an idiot or just not thinking clearly. Any kind of weed that has demand will be available. I mean tobacco is barely even a comparison but even looking at tobacco as an example you can see this wouldn't happen. Also the vast majority of people don't care about the quality of the tobacco they smoke, as long as it meets the standards they hold their choice pack of cigarettes to. The main reason behind this is because you don't care how potent your cigarettes are, you don't try to take huge hits and get fucked up off a cigarette. However, once you get into cigars you see the quality and price both start to rise very rapidly. A cigar connoisseur buys expensive cigars for the quality, taste and smoking enjoyment. Even though giant companies have controlled the tobacco industry for many years, there are still all kinds of nice cigars out there to buy. And that's with the demand for nice cigars being very low overall. Make the same kind of comparison to alcohol where there is a higher percentage of people looking for good quality stuff. Do they have problems finding high quality beer? Were they forced to brew it themselves? No they went to the store and bought it, maybe they had to go to a microbrewery or something besides a regular beer distributor but the point is they can get it no problem. There is such a high demand for really good weed amongst the smoking population that there is no way there wouldn't be tons of places where a weed connoisseur could buy exotic strains and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djwolford View Post
    I'm pretty sure that they won't just let you grow your own weed if it were to be legalized. Also, you know that the prices would go up because corporations are generally assholes who charge much more for a product than it is really worth.

    My name is djwolford, and I am an anti-legalization marijuana smoker.
    Can you brew your own beer? Grow your own tobacco?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djwolford View Post
    Also, you know that the prices would go up because corporations are generally assholes who charge much more for a product than it is really worth.
    holy shit buddy i can't believe you would think that

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    It's basically legal here, so I don't think I'll be calling that number.

    Though it would be sick if it was actually legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djwolford View Post
    Also, you know that the prices would go up because corporations are generally assholes who charge much more for a product than it is really worth..
    You really should take an intro class to microeconomics. If a company charges more than the demand curve they will make less money because they'll make more money per unit but overall sell less and make less revenue. If is in the company's best interest, even as a monopoly, to charge to a price at the demand curve on the line where marginal costs equal marginal revenue - that is where they will maximize their profits. What a product is "really worth" is the demand, and there is an exact point where production efficiency and profits are maximized, and it isn't at all like what you think. And even worse to your case, weed production would probably be monopolistic competition (unless anyone can grow their own, in which case you have perfect competition and there are zero economic profits in the long run as firms enter and leave until equilibrium is met) which means that in the long run they will be forced to sell at a point that is exactly tangent to their average cost curve, which means that no, in no situation would they ever charge more or produce more (SUPPLY) than what the market is willing to pay (DEMAND) because business like to do this thing called maximizing their profits.

    A little thing called suppy and demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killuminati View Post
    It's not that easy man, you do not know what you are talking about. One of the arguments against legalization is that everyone will just grow there own. I can personally guarantee that will never happen because it's too damn hard to grow good weed. There are so many factors involved in growing good weed and since each strain reacts differently to nutrients or a specific ph level you need to be knowledgeable enough to recognize problems, differentiate deficiency's from nute burn, etc.
    Trust me, if you can get the conditions right for a tropical snake, you can do it with weed.

    Yes it requires expertise and reading up, but really, brewing your own beer from scratch is a major hassle too but it isn't difficult to do it once you know how. Plenty of people do that shiz.

    edit: basically I'm not saying it's as simple as 'throw some seeds in under a lamp and wait'. Give me more credit than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killuminati View Post
    Can you brew your own beer? Grow your own tobacco?
    Yes, but it's a lot of trouble, and yes, but growing enough to support a habit is also a lot of trouble and effort.
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    A little thing called suppy and demand.
    See "tobacco companies". Is a pack of cigarettes really worth $4+? Do they charge that much and more anyway? Of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djwolford View Post
    Yes, but it's a lot of trouble, and yes, but growing enough to support a habit is also a lot of trouble and effort.

    See "tobacco companies". Is a pack of cigarettes really worth $4+? Do they charge that much and more anyway? Of course.
    you also realize we are taxed like a motherfucker on those cigs that make them 4 a pack.

    Also the demand to marlboro/camel is much higher than say, pall malls. and both use the same class tobacco.

    when you buy something, you buy the brand, not the product
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars View Post
    you also realize we are taxed like a motherfucker on those cigs that make them 4 a pack.

    Also the demand to marlboro/camel is much higher than say, pall malls. and both use the same class tobacco.

    when you buy something, you buy the brand, not the product
    4 a pack?

    Christ, i have a pack of lucky strike right here that cost me £5.80 and that's cheap.

    once again, you yank bastards are lucky
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    Quote Originally Posted by benzss View Post
    4 a pack?

    Christ, i have a pack of lucky strike right here that cost me £5.80 and that's cheap.

    once again, you yank bastards are lucky
    depending on what state you live in. The Southern States, away from the major cities, cigarettes are $3-5 a pack(In know of Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi this is true) in the North/ North East, they are pretty expensive(I paid $6 in Indiana before our recent taxes on tobacco) I imagine in New York and Chicago they are closer to $10 a pack
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    Is that a pack of 10 or 20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars View Post
    when you buy something, you buy the brand, not the product
    Well I mean what makes you think that commercially grown, packaged and sold pot will be any different?
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    4 a pack?

    Christ, i have a pack of lucky strike right here that cost me £5.80 and that's cheap.

    once again, you yank bastards are lucky
    Yes sir I'd send you cartons all day long for $45 American+shipping.

    Edit for simonj that's 20/pack
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    I wish I lived in California, or another "Medicinal" state. Then I could tell you what the "Pharmacies" are selling for, but from what I've seen on shows/news reports/etc the prices are no higher, and usually lower, that what I pay for high grade maryjane, (I pay 20g/60eighth/120quarter for the most part)
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    But for the most part, I'm not for legalization because I want to be able to smoke in public, or be able to go to the liquor store and buy a bag, I want money out of gang hands, I have a few friends who've either been caught in the cross fire for selling, or are in a gang because they didn't want to be killed for selling on certain "territory".

    I mean, showing allegiance for something that you had no control of(where you were born/grew up/whatever) is some dumb shit to me, and taking more money out of their hands can make the world a bit safer(until they break into your house to rob you).

    I mean, the mafia wouldn't have been so big in america if prohibition wasn't there(then with Nevada's gambling thing).


    Think of the kids! Legalizing weed would also help this deficit we're in if taxed rather than banned
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    Quote Originally Posted by djwolford View Post
    Well I mean what makes you think that commercially grown, packaged and sold pot will be any different?
    It'd be the same, it'd be taxed a shit load like alcohol or tobacco is now. How much would you pay for a back of 10 joints made of your choice of high quality strains of herb? Open market prices are ALWAYS going to be lower than black market prices regardless, that is why it is called a black market, they can charge more because the demand curve is higher because the only ones willing to buy it are those also willing to risk getting in trouble for it, so those that wouldn't pay much otherwise will not buy it, leaving those that will pay more than what would otherwise be a fair market equilibrium.

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    Well I'm also not a good judge of what black market prices currently are because I know a lot of growers/suppliers and don't pay as much as your average person. For me I can't see mids or headies being much cheaper if they were legal though.

    My perspective on these things lends a lot to my opinion on the matter of legalization.
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    what's so hard to understand about "they will be"? (cheaper)

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    I've seen a good friend of mine light his hair on fire while trying to light his bong for the umpteenth time that day...I agree that it makes some people less intelligent but man, the halarity that ensues because of this is well worth it.
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    The big problem I have with weed is when people think they're being hilarious when or because they're stoned. Stoned people are almost universally not funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    The big problem I have with weed is when people think they're being hilarious when or because they're stoned. Stoned people are almost universally not funny.
    I hate drunk people because they're loud as hell and will fight for anything not worth fighting for... drunk people are almost universally obnoxious.

    Ever taken mushrooms or LSD(or any RC)?

    I've laughed for hours at a bug on the wall
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    i hope its legalized medically at least i need the shit for my anxiety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infernus View Post
    i hope its legalized medically at least i need the shit for my anxiety
    I find that long term pot smokers are the most anxious people in the world while they're not stoned.
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    It's called psychological addiction, no brains.
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    But like no way man! pot is NOT addictive! So...why don't you just let me have my pot right now... or I'm gonna fuck'n freak out!

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    Haha I love how every pothead that swears that pot isn't addictive freaks out if they have to go a day without. If I had a nickle for every time that I heard someone say "damn I really need a joint right now...".
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    Quote Originally Posted by djwolford View Post
    Haha I love how every pothead that swears that pot isn't addictive freaks out if they have to go a day without. If I had a nickle for every time that I heard someone say "damn I really need a joint right now...".
    I love that shit too. Though, I don't believe it's anywhere near as psychologically addictive as tobacco, coke or meth(huhu no shit), but everything can be psychologically addictive. Aspirin, Orange Juice, Coffee(decaf or regular) anything you can think of can be psychologically addictive.

    But then again, the only time I've ever said I needed to smoke was when I was under a lot of stress with getting evicted or something similar. I very often stop smoking for a week or more at a time just to drop my tolerance to nothing
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    Vengeful Scars you make a good point, and I'm too drunk to post one of my ridiculous arguments.

    Good game sir.
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    Which only confirms that it's relative to who's doing it

    So fuck you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars View Post
    I love that shit too. Though, I don't believe it's anywhere near as psychologically addictive as tobacco, coke or meth(huhu no shit), but everything can be psychologically addictive. Aspirin, Orange Juice, Coffee(decaf or regular) anything you can think of can be psychologically addictive.

    But then again, the only time I've ever said I needed to smoke was when I was under a lot of stress with getting evicted or something similar. I very often stop smoking for a week or more at a time just to drop my tolerance to nothing
    I have never seen anyone psychologically addicted to orange juice.

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    I've actually had a psychological addiction to orange juice, but I got better.
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    Orange Juice (and other high-citrus juices) has psychologically addictive properties.

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    Orange Juice (and other high-citrus juices) has psychologically addictive properties.
    Everything has psychologically addictive processes, I think was the point.

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    I doubt teacups do.

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