Successful potheads.

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Originally Posted by gwahir

...it's the narrator's (not alanis herself but a character) view of how the world works, like from the mindset of a frustrated nineteen year old

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uhh when i read the wiki it said this:

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For me the great debate on whether what I was saying in ‘Ironic’ was ironic wasn’t a traumatic debate. I’d always embraced the fact that every once in a while I’d be the malapropism queen. And when Glen and I were writing it, we definitely were not doggedly making sure that everything was technically ironic. It’s a testament to the fact that we didn’t think it was going to be put under the microscope by 30 million people. For me the sweetest moment came in New York when a woman came up to me in a record store and said, ‘So all those things in the “Ironic” aren’t ironic.’ And then she said, ‘And that’s the irony.’ I said, ‘Yup.’ To me it’s a real snapshot of a nineteen-year-old’s definition and version of how life worked at the time. All that ‘Ironic’ touches on spawned all my future inquiries into and current understandings of the mysteries of life.

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which translates to (in my mind): "i was nineteen and dumb who cares lol"

but it wasn't a character that was supposed to be someone other than alanis herself from reading that imo

wait who said Alanis Morrisette(this is how you fuck up names) was hot?

yeah maybe skimming that led to some incorrect assumptions on my part

Me

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Originally Posted by rishard10212

Me

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I doubt I'm the only one who doesn't believe you.

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Originally Posted by simonj

I doubt I'm the only one who doesn't believe you.

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Maybe he believes success is relative?

Sure, we might see him as a fry cook in a studio apartment, but with enough weed I'm sure he sees himself as a regular Rockefeller.

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Originally Posted by no_brains_no_worries

Maybe he believes success is relative?

Sure, we might see him as a fry cook in a studio apartment, but with enough weed I'm sure he sees himself as a regular Rockefeller.

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Any stoner with 'enough' weed sees themselves as successful.
Until it starts to run out.

this thread is like listening to my Christian grandparents debate Islam

lol

i'm a successful pothead.



oh shit i mean dothead.

http://www.musicbyday.com/the-beatle...own-words/585/

Here are some quotes from the Beatles about how weed and LSD influenced their music and lives.

here is a quote from me on this topic

"who gives a fuck" - coqauvin

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

here is a quote from me on this topic

"who gives a fuck" - coqauvin

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This should be everyone's view. Unfortunately the US government(along with too many Americans) don't seem to like allowing people their constitutional rights when it isn't convenient for them.

Well grandstanding on a moral high horse is a good way to win votes, so I can't entirely blame them for that, even if I dislike the actual results. This sounds like I support what they do (I don't), but I'm pretty sure it won't change at least until a new generation of politicians takes office, and even then...

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

Well grandstanding on a moral high horse is a good way to win votes, so I can't entirely blame them for that, even if I dislike the actual results. This sounds like I support what they do (I don't), but I'm pretty sure it won't change at least until a new generation of politicians takes office, and even then...

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It isn't a moral high horse though, that's the fucked up part. Nearly every bit of pot propaganda has historically been a downright lie. It is hypocritical and immoral to deny people the freedom to smoke pot if they want to. Or deny them to use any substance really. Thankfully the pot movement has some serious legs at this point and I can't see it doing anything but progressing from this point on. With so many states with medical legal, many more that have bills and California pushing for legalization I don't see how we won't have federal legalization in any more than 15 years and I think that is a pretty conservative estimate if we keep moving at this pace.

It is the moral high horse. By villifying something and setting yourself up as a crusader against a perceived evil in your consituency, you can make yourself a contender. It's old hat, but plenty of politicians drum up attention or positive polling for themselves by denouncing the evils of drugs when an election is aronud the corner - it makes you seem like a stand-up member of the community, a crusader for the well-being of the neighbourhood. If the stigma surrounding pot was gone, it wouldn't matter, but enlightenment takes time.

C'mon guys, we still haven't really named any successful potheads though.

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Originally Posted by simonj

C'mon guys, we still haven't really named any successful potheads though.

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lol.

Well that Beatles link you posted hardly counts. It's not like they're a self-made success.

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Originally Posted by simonj

Well that Beatles link you posted hardly counts. It's not like they're a self-made success.

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Wait you were serious?

hint: people in creative industries whose success is made in large part by other people who don't touch weed do not count as successful potheads.

I mean I'm pro-legalization but if the point of the thread is to think of successful potheads then I can't think of any.

Well thankfully we have this tool called google that allows you to search through information all over the world. Why it can even give us some insight into who a few successful potheads are. Now granted, due to its illegality a LOT of people obviously deny that they use so here are the people who obviously have no problem with admitting it(or have been caught or something).

This was found in about 3 minutes of googling and the top of my head.

Carl Sagan, Michael bloomberg, Sir Richard Branson, Rick Steves, Aaron Sorkin, Michael Phelps, Barack Obama, Ted Turner, Montel Williams, Stephen King, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Richard Feynman, susan blackmore, Joe Rogan, Brad Pitt, Quentin Tarantino, the list could go on.

Come on are you serious? Your restriction to not include creative industries is pretty ridiculous as well, how are you saying that the beatles didn't make themselves famous by writing their music. Here's a little protip for you, it wasn't their marketing or method of distributing albums that was responsible for their success. It's easy to find musicians who smoke because a lot have no problems admitting it. They are practically expected to smoke and do drugs. It isn't very wise to go around admitting doing illegal drugs, even if you are successful, if you still have a boss that will fire your ass or if you are worried about getting arrested. Plus what is your definition of success? Being super rich and famous like most of the people I named? Or graduating from college, making good money and raising a family?

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Originally Posted by Killuminati

Carl Sagan, Michael bloomberg, Sir Richard Branson, Rick Steves, Aaron Sorkin, Michael Phelps, Barack Obama, Ted Turner, Montel Williams, Stephen King, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Richard Feynman, susan blackmore, Joe Rogan, Brad Pitt, Quentin Tarantino, the list could go on.

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now there is a right royal list of wankers

occasional use =/= pothead

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

occasional use =/= pothead

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Montel Williams is a pothead. He does his talk show stoned.

this dog looks pretty successful

http://i.imgur.com/annBL.jpg

fuck you babar

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Originally Posted by ozzy

Montel Williams is a pothead. He does his talk show stoned.

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nobody gives a fuck about Montel Williams

Well hey the point was to name 1 successful pothead so there you go.

From what I understand, Montel uses weed as a medication against his MS. How does this make him a pothead?

...because he smokes pot constantly. That was the point.

He is successful with using pot on a heavier basis because it negates pain and allows him rest. How is this at all comparable to a pothead (in my definition, one who gets high for the sake of getting high)? He was successful before he started smoking pot (although he also ingests it orally) and only began it's usage after shit like Percocet and Oxycontin didn't help him with his nerve pain. I still don't see the analogy aside from semantic detail.