I would shake the guys hand and tell him I admire his work.
I've never once been jumped by a white guy. Not once.
I would shake the guys hand and tell him I admire his work.
I've never once been jumped by a white guy. Not once.
Oats, fuck off. Seriously.Originally Posted by Oats
You've never been the subject of racial prejudice either, and you have no idea how many lives the Klan has ruined or how many people they have killed.
I have no idea how many times you've been "jumped," and I'm not saying it's right, but you have no fucking clue, so just slag off.
Last edited by sycld; 10-20-2008 at 03:41 PM.
PANDAS
If you don't like them, then get the fuck out.
The blacks around here are more racist than the whites.
If they want us to stop being racist they should stop giving reasons to hate them.
I don't really agree with being a total white supremacist but I can see why somebody would be.
And no I've never been a subject of racial prejudice but I have been a subject of prejudice a number of times. I don't hate blacks, I hate ignorant people and it just happens that most of them are black. If they want to hate on me for the way I dress, walk, talk or the gender of people I enjoy fornicating with then I will hate them for what ever reason I want.
And?
No, you've never been jumped by a rich guy.
These are all issues of class. Congratulations asshole, you live in a place where the poverty is centred around ethnic minorities. Crime of this sort is always centred around the poorer parts of a community. Personally, I have never been jumped by a black guy (or Asian or any other minority) but I have been jumped and attacked by plenty of white people. That's because I live in a rather white area and those who are the dregs of society, those who are so sick of living at the bottom of the ladder that they turn to crime/drugs/gangs etc are predominantly white.
Judging people for these actions because of the colour of their fucking skin is the height of ignorance. Are you seriously telling me a middle class black man is more likely to commit a crime than a middle class white man (or even a working class white)?? If we solve these issues of social imbalance and, I hate to say it, spread the wealth, then we'll see huge decreases in this kind of crime.
Wrong. Where you end depends on how far you travel.
Perhaps not worded like that but yes, black culture has offered more to today's music than literally anything else. If you really think it wouldn't be a great loss then go throw away ALL of your music made post 1930 (assuming any pre-30s music isn't already blues/jazz).
Not to mention black literature. In 100-200 years time "I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings" or "The Colour Purple" or "Beloved" or "Roots: The Saga of an American Family" will stand up to any of the other 'classics' of literature we already have. They're just relatively new and modern and so are looked upon differently. But dismissing the contributions of entire cultures because it doesn't fit into some traditionalist hoity toity view of what art should be makes you a cunt.
Last edited by simonj; 10-20-2008 at 07:59 PM.
For the sake of argument, I'm going to be generous and just say that you're REALLY reaching by claiming that "black culture has offered more to today's music than literally anything else". Or that, Alice Walker, or Maya Angelou will be as historically revered as Shakespeare, or Mark Twain, or Gertrude Stein, or Ernest Hemingway, or George Orwell, or Walt Whitman, or fuckin' Simias of Rhodes?
I guess my next question to you would be:
If you had the choice to live in a world stripped of either African culture, or European culture, which would you choose?
I would choose the world without African culture
Then I'll be generous and assume that you know absolutely fuck all about popular music. Take away the underpinning blues root, the african rhythms and the Jamaican influences and all your left with is practically nothing.
Shakespeare's legacy has revolutionised the English Language but aside from that then, yes. They are just as creative and just as effective as the rest and just as inspirational.
Or that, Alice Walker, or Maya Angelou will be as historically revered as Shakespeare, or Mark Twain, or Gertrude Stein, or Ernest Hemingway, or George Orwell, or Walt Whitman, or fuckin' Simias of Rhodes?Well practically all of European culture is now archaic and our societies are somewhat based on it, but just because their influence runs further down the river does not mean the flow is any stronger and the societies of tomorrow will be just as rooted in these 'multicultures' as we are in European cultures.I guess my next question to you would be:
If you had the choice to live in a world stripped of either African culture, or European culture, which would you choose?
I would choose the world without African culture
Are you honestly serious saying that African Culture has completely influenced every aspect of our music? African culture gave jazz and the blues which was the result of much of the soul music/hymns of American slavery. I mean, inherently, you can say jazz and blues re-shaped music - a shot of reality to the lyrics, simplified and less harmonic than their musical predecessors, but primarily modern music was shaped by The Beatles and Pink Floyd. They provided the standard musical setup of instruments and had a song that could of virtually influenced any modern genre during their careers.
The fuck has African culture given us in the last decade? Soulja BOY!~!~! RICK ROSS ~!~!~ LiL WaYnE~~~!
The fuck is that shit, if they're going to primarily base their music in the rap culture then don't make it a complete, utter, talentless joke. Nas is right, hip hop is dead, it's been dead since Pac and Biggie died. Sounds stereotypical, but despite how jaded and hypocritical their songs were, they were poets, not some talentless hacks who get big for re-playing a four word hook over and over for five minutes.
And the music of The Beatles and Pink Floyd was not at all influenced by African music.
Ever.
Right.
PANDAS
If you don't like them, then get the fuck out.
Once again you prove yourself to be a complete and total retard. The Beatles wanted to be like Chuck Berry, Little Richard and plenty of other black rock n roll artists. Sure, their music expanded beyond that but would it have done with no jazz influences? Fuck no.
And Pink Floyd? Are you fucking kidding me? I'm one of the biggest Floyd fans there is but I'm not ignorant. They're influential, sure but not to the degree you're implying. They didn't even kick off the whole 'avant garde' scene. And later Pink Floyd (pretty much everything from AHM onwards) is just very very slow blues songs. Hell, they're even named after two black blues musicians that Syd Barrett was a fan of.
Once again you prove yourself retarded by judging an entire genre of music based on a few mainstream, populist examples of music-less retards handed careers by rich white suits, safe in the knowledge twelve year olds everywhere will want to dance around like twats.The fuck has African culture given us in the last decade? Soulja BOY!~!~! RICK ROSS ~!~!~ LiL WaYnE~~~!
The fuck is that shit, if they're going to primarily base their music in the rap culture then don't make it a complete, utter, talentless joke. Nas is right, hip hop is dead, it's been dead since Pac and Biggie died. Sounds stereotypical, but despite how jaded and hypocritical their songs were, they were poets, not some talentless hacks who get big for re-playing a four word hook over and over for five minutes.
Big deal, talented hip-hop has moved underground, which is where it originally was. Pac and Biggie are extremely overrated compared to the lyrical genii who exist in today's climate, you just have to look for them. If you don't want to then that's fine, I don't really like hip hop either but don't be a cunt about it and, what's worse, don't use it as an excuse for your bitter, racist prejudices.
I have. Does it matter?
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