So was bfdirty a mobster or what?
So was bfdirty a mobster or what?
Wow I totally forgot to mention what day I had the deadline set for. Good going, God.
Anyways, vote standings:
sycld (1)
Vengeful Scars
Sailor Jack (1)
bfdirty
KT.(2)
simonj, Think
bfdirty (4)
KT., Shitface, Infernus, Sailor Jack
considering you kind of have a bandwagon going, I'll wait until Wednesday July 28th, Noon EST before I switch phases.
Because I phrased it sort of weird before, I'm just going to mention that saying /unlynch blackpeople then saying /lynch injuns effectively swaps your vote and is totally allowed. What I meant before was that once a person has the required votes for a lynching, but the lynching hasn't taken place yet, you can't remove a vote to save their life.
Originally Posted by Nermy2k
/whore kt
scyld let's see what happens with a tie
A) I agree that bfdirty is an idiot, but if you notice I only voted for him after he practically admitted that he is a mafioso. He even did it again after I accused him. See below:
B) Couldn't the same be said about you? I went after someone who may have mob affiliations and then you went after me. And as mutton said:Stereotypes exist because they are mostly true.
If I was a mobster and if Sailor Jack was a mobster, it would have been much easier and far more logical to just vote against sycld, who already had a vote against him. Voting against sycld would make it far more likely that Sailor Jack would keep playing. I wouldn't have to worry about someone like bfdirty because if he was a peasant, his Sailor Jack vote would have been completely random.
C) See point A. And besides you could say that Vengeful Scars's vote against sycld (because he's gay) and bfdirty's vote against Sailor Jack (because he's a "sailor") were equally, if not more, suspicious than my vote.
If anything, I think it's more likely that you are part of the mafioso since you attack me after I went after someone who I believe is a mobster and you piled up on an existing vote.
I voted for KT because, mafia or not, she is fucking sly and were she to be a mafia member she would clearly be the most 'dangerous' one.
Actually, I didn't vote for KT at all (it wasn't in bold so I assumed it didn't count) but there's a reason I haven't negated it.
However, if things get more interesting (such as an actual tie) I might repeal that decision (although obviously I will have to hurry).
/my 2 cents
ok at this point I don't think it's bfdirty and I'm more uncertain about kt.
However I'm pretty damn sure that there is no reason to vote for Sailor Jack or Sycld, so whilst I'm definitely still up for being convinced to change my vote, it's not going to be from kt to anyone who's been voted for so far.
So if Kt. changes her vote to someone else and provides me with a valid argument for their being a mafioso, I'll probably go with her.
Last edited by Think; 07-27-2010 at 08:19 PM.
Excuse me?
Now if you would, sir, be so kind as to step aside so I may form the angry lynch mob into an angry lynch orderly cue against bfdirty.
There we are. Now that that is over with, I er vote to /lynch KT in the hopes of getting a tie
PANDAS
If you don't like them, then get the fuck out.
Also kt whilst most of what you said is valid I stand by what I said, I think the wording was quite precise.
A very clever person might double bluff that way; if you agree that bfdirty is stupid then if he were a mafioso he would play a weak game and avoid looking suspicious. On the supposition of his being retarded, his attention drawing antics speak to his innocence.
I specifically said "given my options". Unfortunately at that stage of the game I couldn't see other people doing the same thing as you. Only when I reloaded the page after posting did I notice that that dastardly Think had done precisely the same. It also meant that all the people bandwagoning, which I agree is suspect, came after I had made my first guess.
You're a woman so the supposition you would act logically is baffling. But I would argue that the bfdirty bandwagon was obviously more likely than a sycld one. A hypothesis that the game has borne out.
Yeah, they just seemed like retarded early votes. Yours was the first that could smell of motive.
I know what I said above but I'm afraid if you change your vote to me I cannot in that instance follow suit.
As to your reasoning, I can only object that you were the most suspicious character at the time (Come on Kt; it's so unlikely that bfdirty is a mobster...). That doesn't necessarily mean that things haven't changed since then, or won't change still further. That was very early in the game.
Ok, after giving this some thought I have decided to /unlynch sailor jack.
Um thanks I guess.
So unlikely? Assuming there are 4 mobsters, he has a 40% chance of being one. That doesn't seem so unlikely, unless you know something I don't.
Ok, here's something else for you to think about. Let's say I was a mobster and bfdirty is innocent. What do I have to gain if he's lynched? Nothing. I would immediately look suspicious for campaigning so hard for his execution and I would probably be voted out the next round. It would be very poor strategy. However, since I am a townperson and not a mobster, I have a 40% chance of being right. And on the 60% chance I'm wrong, Sailor Jack put it best:
If there were four mafioso we'd be fuqued if we didn't lynch one this round...
that's not "knowing more than you"
that's knowing maths
/unlynch kt
lynch mutton
I think KT is merely misguided but Mutton might be playing at something
I'm going to go ahead and switch too.
/unlynch bfdirty
lynch mutton
Just had a thought what if bfdirty said wasn't a freudian slip but just a deterence for someone else. A gimmick perhaps? Did we check for those?
coq, can you tell us how many are mafiosos and how ties are handled if no one changes their mind by nightfall
that doesn't help your cause
the logical thing would be to lynch kt to save yourself while giving some sort of defence
sailor jack is right about you being a liability
after vengeful scars made his first 4 posts all about lynching scyld, nobody can support him with a legitimate reason - hurrr durrrr let's lynch the faggot - the motivation there seems to be "this is such a stupid way to start a bandwagon that it might just work, plus i am really stoned"
this suggests that vengeful scars and scyld cannot both be mafioso
most of your argument here is overreaching:
- what you have to gain is clear: 1 townsfolk dies, you get closer to winning
- you campaigned against bfdirty because he "admitted" to being a mafioso; reading it over, it was not a hard campaign
- 40% is not the right figure as our probabilities of being mafioso are no longer random due to the posts so far
the only thing you have right is agreeing with sailor jack
not sure about the poor strategy part:
- if you're as sly as simonj thinks, you could execute the poor strategy and then back out of it by labelling it poor
- if you're not really sly, you could well execute the poor strategy and then realize it was poor
what am i playing at, lifting the fog from townsfolk eyes
you and kt's sudden bandwagon against me does not follow from your above discussion at all
/lynch mutton
I admit that my initial judgement that Sailor Jack was in need of death was hasty. In retrospect it would have been best to wait for someone else to be the one to break the silence. Unfortunately, I cant rewrite the past. I can however correct my mistakes, and after listening to the people here I have decided that Mutton is the greatest threat among us at the moment. You just seem to be giving too much thought to the chess of this life. You seem to have a conniving sort of nature about you. I am just trying to survive. You seem to be trying to win some sort of... game?
Last edited by bfdirty; 07-28-2010 at 05:41 AM. Reason: Add anti-mutton sentiments
people who aren't mutton kt or me really need to poast moar
I'm pretty sure everyone else has just decided that you three are clearly the mafioso.
I'm more convinced about KT than ever and I'm pretty convinced about you Think (but that's still open for another "day" as I'm not switching my vote from KT). The sudden switching from KT to Mutton (and KTs abrupt following) was very cleverly executed but I, for one, don't buy it.
Mutton I'm on the fence about because you clearly wouldn't make such an emphatic case against lynching him if he was in cahoots with you two. I still have mild suspicions about Sailor Jack (his defence after bfdirty voted for him).
Actually, bfdirty also suddenly switched to Mutton in a VERY bandwagon like way which leads me to think he must be the third mafioso.
Last edited by simonj; 07-28-2010 at 12:16 PM.
It was incredible.
The townsfolk hemmed and hawed all day, switching votes back and forth, but by the end of it, nobody got six votes, and so nobody was marched up to the gallows, nobody threw bitter last words at the crowd and nobody died. There were still THREE mafia loose in town.
Good job, town, you managed to... oh. wait. No, you really didn't do anything at all.
Night 1 Begins
Please send me your night actions asap.
ps final voting figures were:
sycld (1)
Vengeful Scars
KT.(3)
simonj, mutton, sycld
bfdirty (3)
Shitface, Infernus, Sailor Jack
mutton (3)
think, KT., bfdirty
Last edited by coqauvin; 07-28-2010 at 12:33 PM.
Coq are you just terrible at maths or did you miss out someone who voted for bfdirty.
I know my mafs
Day 2 Begins
It was a busy night. Sailor Jack, a good, law-abiding townie was walking home from the ol' lynchin' hall thinking of the troubles he'd been having with his wife and how maybe he'd sleep in his office tonight. Poor ol' Jack turned up next morning in his office, bottle empty, completely dead from lead poisoning. Lead poisoning? Yeah, he ate it. From a gun. Turns out the Mafia got the lead in him from shooting him in the back of the head. One of the jerks even spray-painted their logo on his wall. This was a great loss for the town, because it turned out the Sailor Jack was the POLIZIA, capable of investigating a player each night and determining their role.
This is harsh news for a town under fire. 9 players remain, 5 to lynch.
editor's note: that was fuckin fast, good job guys.
Last edited by coqauvin; 08-01-2010 at 03:33 PM.
lynch Think
/lynch Kt
I have already admitted that accusing sailor jack was a mistake. Some of you have expressed confusion about my sudden bandwagon switch to mutton. I know it must have looked very odd, and in fact, it was. The truth is Think approached me privately and promised if I changed my vote to mutton that between him and It they could save me and Lynch a mafioso. I have examined the evidence against Mutton and found it lacking. In truth the oddest thing was the willingness of think and kt to work together to save me despite their outward appearance of conflict. I cannot say that this proves they are Mafia, but I cannot ignore it. They will squabble this round and eventually choose to vote for others. Probably me. Probably on the basis that the man I original accused was murdered in the night. If I'm correct, sailor jack was murdered at the hands of kt and think to bring about my eventual death.
*Sorry for spelling or format errors. Posted from my Droid.
Willingness, ha!
I begrudgingly changed my vote. I didn't realize you had to have 6 votes for it to count or else I wouldn't have changed my vote at all.
People I'm suspicious of, KT, Think, and Mutton.
Lol
...crap.
It's down to 5 votes required now, right? Well... hopefully it'll be easier to come to a consensus, now that... err... our police force has been killed off by the organized criminal element...The townsfolk hemmed and hawed all day, switching votes back and forth, but by the end of it, nobody got six votes, and so nobody was marched up to the gallows, nobody threw bitter last words at the crowd and nobody died. There were still THREE mafia loose in town.
PANDAS
If you don't like them, then get the fuck out.
So, to those suspicious of me: yes I've been very loud and brash, yes I've been PMing people to alter the vote, but consider in what way. I did not see substantial evidence to suggest bfdirty was a mobster, therefore I tried to weaken the vote to kill someone I saw as being a villager. I made bfdirty rescind his vote in favour of sailor jack and repeatedly stood against unreasonable attacks on sailor jack (consider that in light of what we now know).
I helped to mobilise a vote against KT. when the evidence seemed to point in that direction, and then, after long discussion both in thread and via PM, having come to the conclusion that she may not be a werewolf (that it was no longer reasonable suspicion, not that she is in the clear), I ensured a three-way tie by insisting KT and bfdirty vote with me against mutton. In the process I could examine both KT's and bfdirty's reasoning and co-operation, both of which seemed sufficient to suggest that they may be villagers. I PMed Infernus and tried to get him to change his vote from bfdirty to KT to again avoid a bfdirty killing majority. Here you can see that I didn't simply decide to switch from KT to Mutton and that I genuinely wanted to avoid a lynching. I also PMed Mutton in an effort to ensure that he didn't feel the battle lines descending between the bloc I'd formed and him, and that at least I could act as intermediary.
I shan't pretend that I have wholly ceased to suspect either KT or Mutton, or pretend that if one of them had been killed rather than bfdirty I wouldn't have considered that I had substantially increased our chances of killing a werewolf. What I will say is that whilst it may be natural for the three of us (loud and brash as we are) to each suspect the others, the rest of you ought to be quite careful about suspecting all three of us; if even just one of us is a villager, they are the most committed villager in the game so far. I suspect that at least two of us are villagers. One of them is me. Obviously.
You may think it an act of sabotage merely to have prevented a lynching yesterday. I answer: we had no candidate upon whom reasonable suspicion could be placed, and whilst the likelihood of killing a mafioso during the day is obviously higher than during the night, that means naught unless we do actually choose a mafioso. You may doubt my reasoning, but not, I think, my intentions.
Last edited by Think; 07-29-2010 at 06:07 PM. Reason: more paragraphing are you happy now
Man, paragraph that shit, this isn't flames.
lynch Think
more people need to die, and the mafia needs to die this day
also I couldn't be bother to listen to that man's babbling, I had more important shit to do that day
lik dis if u cry evertim
Vote count thus far:
Think (2)
KT., Vengeful Scars
KT. (1)
bfdirty
pretty sure I didn't need to do this, but I figure updates are always welcome
You see if Think is the mafia than we do need to lynch him asap, but if he is a townie than he would be one of our greatest assets, because he truly is trying to find the mafia.
And KT is like the poor man's version of Think
Think wants stream of consciousness to be viewed as a valid expository style of writing.
Goddamn it, I lost everything that I had typed, so I'll be succinct...
Keep in mind that I'm half asleep, so pardon logical gaps and no gude English (I just want to slap something up after losing my original post).
Three motivations for which coq would choose anyone to be a mafioso: random selection, selection because he (or whore, for KT) would be interesting, or to throw us off.
bfdirty would have been such... just no. He could have been the ultimate spoof choice, I wouldn't put that past coq. But considering that he'd have to cooperate with two other guys here, he would have either been dead weight or a liability.
At any rate, Think had either devised a grand plan to completely throw us off his scent (he is a scheming papist after all, basically halfway into the Mafia as it is), or he was honest in his thoughtfulness and in his efforts to prevent a premature lynching.
I don't believe, for now, that Think is Mafia.
I also am, for now, leaning against KT being Mafia. Goddamn it, lol.. I can't remember what my reasoning was behind it, but let's just say for now that I, at least, am thinking KT is not in the Mafia.
God, I don't know about mutton... he seemed to be vacillating. But honestly, I feel like that was mutton just being... muttonly, so I'm thinking he might not be a mafioso.
Right now, I'm suspicious of Infernus (and not because of his first post :-p). He just seems to be making short posts without any thought behind them, almost as though to just make a show of participation and nothing more.
Now with 100% more syphilis!And KT is like the poor man's version of Think
PANDAS
If you don't like them, then get the fuck out.
But that might just be infernus being infernus.
I'm still thinking about my vote. Will provide reasoning soon.
Last edited by Think; 07-30-2010 at 04:18 AM.
/lynch Think or kt if there are more votes for her by the end of day 2
- they were colluding behind the scenes, bribing bfdirty
- Think's pm to me was a lie
- don't see how a pm discussion between Think and kt can lessen his doubt about her
- his strategy is fishy: manipulate others' votes, prevent lynching, give the mafia a free kill at night, miss info obtained from lynching
- i expect kt's vote (for Think) to change by the end of day 2 for seemingly no reason, like it did on day 1
i think Think would be this invested on both sides
chance of him being the greatest asset is offset by that of him being the greatest threat
I'm still leaning heavily towards Think or KT being mafia. I'm convinced at least one of them is. I can't quite put together a strong enough case to vote for one over the other right now though so I'll wait for the moment.
I'd like to add that I'm becoming very suspicious of Shitface, Infernus and VS who have all been relatively quiet in the game. It's entirely possible (and plausible) that their strategy is to stay quiet and avoid suspicion, killing people off during the night until there's so few people left they can quite easily swing the votes to their majority. However, I'm not about to try and start a lynching against any one of them on day 2. I just wanted to throw that out there.
Last edited by simonj; 07-30-2010 at 11:38 AM.
Just to let you know. Think, approached me first and I had no contact with bfdirty.
Wait... what exactly did Think tell you in his PM? I looked back in this thread, and I couldn't find it...
PANDAS
If you don't like them, then get the fuck out.
Hey guys, let's get this bitch rolling.
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