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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    However, I'm not about to try and start a lynching against any one of them on day 2. I just wanted to throw that out there.
    Well, I mean why not? I mean I agree insofar as we should not be hasty, but at the end of this day we have to come to a consensus on someone whom a simple majority of us thinks is in the Mafia so we can get out ye olde lynching rope and hang them on high so as to put on an entertaining spectacle for the peasantry.

    At any rate, as I said before, out of that short list you mentioned, I suspect Infernus the most. On the other hand, Think is possibly correct that it could be just Infernus being Infernal. Also, the possibility of mutton being in the mob can't be discounted entirely either, though again I think it's just mutton being muttonly.


    As for Think, it seems that he was primarily the one whose machinations caused a lynching to be avoided on the first day. His logic and designs were so circuitous and involved so much private communications that it was hard for me to follow. However, I can only think of two reasons why he would try to avoid a lynching at all:

    1) He genuinely was trying to prevent a premature execution, as a poorly motivated guess had a high chance of us being down two people, as the Mafia was going to kill one of us off anyway.

    2) We were close to offing one of his fellow mafioso, and he determined that the best outcome he could get would be inaction because he felt it impossible to cast enough suspicion on an innocent villager.


    For now, let's set aside possibility #1, just to explore in hypothetical scenarios how option 2 could very well have played out, given what we know. For if option 2 is correct, we may very well be able to determine the identities of not one but two members of the Mafia that have dared to insinuate themselves upon our once peaceful insular bigoted little hamlet. I mean it's still as insular and bigoted as ever, just not quite so peaceful.

    At any rate, IF option 2 is true, and that is a big if as it is all in caps, I would be most inclined to think that Think and bfdirty were both Mafia. Again, let me emphasize: this is all hypothetical. A bfdirty majority vote was close to being achieved, but then it fell apart thanks mostly to Think. After that it wasn't clear that he could 6 votes for anyone else, so clearly the best strategy would be to throw suspicion around the group and distract everyone from the newfag with the delicious target sign painted on him.


    If he isn't Mafia, however, then his conniving, scheming papist brain could be put to good use for us, as we have already seen, and we can always deliver him up to a kangaroo court on charges of heresy and witchcraft after the Mafia is dealt with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    Well, I mean why not? I mean I agree insofar as we should not be hasty, but at the end of this day we have to come to a consensus on someone whom a simple majority of us thinks is in the Mafia so we can get out ye olde lynching rope and hang them on high so as to put on an entertaining spectacle for the peasantry.

    At any rate, as I said before, out of that short list you mentioned, I suspect Infernus the most. On the other hand, Think is possibly correct that it could be just Infernus being Infernal. Also, the possibility of mutton being in the mob can't be discounted entirely either, though again I think it's just mutton being muttonly.


    As for Think, it seems that he was primarily the one whose machinations caused a lynching to be avoided on the first day. His logic and designs were so circuitous and involved so much private communications that it was hard for me to follow. However, I can only think of two reasons why he would try to avoid a lynching at all:

    1) He genuinely was trying to prevent a premature execution, as a poorly motivated guess had a high chance of us being down two people, as the Mafia was going to kill one of us off anyway.

    2) We were close to offing one of his fellow mafioso, and he determined that the best outcome he could get would be inaction because he felt it impossible to cast enough suspicion on an innocent villager.


    For now, let's set aside possibility #1, just to explore in hypothetical scenarios how option 2 could very well have played out, given what we know. For if option 2 is correct, we may very well be able to determine the identities of not one but two members of the Mafia that have dared to insinuate themselves upon our once peaceful insular bigoted little hamlet. I mean it's still as insular and bigoted as ever, just not quite so peaceful.

    At any rate, IF option 2 is true, and that is a big if as it is all in caps, I would be most inclined to think that Think and bfdirty were both Mafia. Again, let me emphasize: this is all hypothetical. A bfdirty majority vote was close to being achieved, but then it fell apart thanks mostly to Think. After that it wasn't clear that he could 6 votes for anyone else, so clearly the best strategy would be to throw suspicion around the group and distract everyone from the newfag with the delicious target sign painted on him.


    If he isn't Mafia, however, then his conniving, scheming papist brain could be put to good use for us, as we have already seen, and we can always deliver him up to a kangaroo court on charges of heresy and witchcraft after the Mafia is dealt with.
    If this can be considered consensus, then I would reply that I would be willing to help vote off bfdirty today if that's really what's needed to clear my sheet (much as it pains me to have in that case actually just wasted a day). If he's not Mafia, hopefully option one is sufficiently feasible for all of you. If he is mafia the the heat is off (as it is we only have two days to lynch someone, but if we get one tonight we're ok for a while) and you're free to waste a day killing me off if that's absolutely necessary (don't expect me not to come up with some reasoning, even sophistry if need be, for getting rid of someone else, though).
    But if all of you can just for a second suspend the hysterics and stick with me for a little then for god's sake let's kill someone more likely to be a mafioso.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Think View Post
    If this can be considered consensus, then I would reply that I would be willing to help vote off bfdirty today if that's really what's needed to clear my sheet (much as it pains me to have in that case actually just wasted a day). If he's not Mafia, hopefully option one is sufficiently feasible for all of you. If he is mafia the the heat is off (as it is we only have two days to lynch someone, but if we get one tonight we're ok for a while) and you're free to waste a day killing me off if that's absolutely necessary (don't expect me not to come up with some reasoning, even sophistry if need be, for getting rid of someone else, though).
    But if all of you can just for a second suspend the hysterics and stick with me for a little then for god's sake let's kill someone more likely to be a mafioso.
    Well it's easiest to scrutinize the guy that has said the most, y'know ;p

    Also, can you really blame us for focusing for now on your manipulations of the first day's votes, so as to assure ourselves of your pure motivations?

    At any rate, I'm willing to stick with you for a little, if you'd give me something to put to my sticking place. Before this, the last thing I've read from you was a post of definite indecision.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mutton View Post
    /lynch Think or kt if there are more votes for her by the end of day 2

    - they were colluding behind the scenes, bribing bfdirty
    More like I strongarmed bfdirty into not voting against what turned out to be our strongest asset. I mean I see how you're painting it but in this case I think the ends totally shadow the means. And there was no colluding with kt on this point.


    Quote Originally Posted by mutton View Post
    - Think's pm to me was a lie
    yes and no, if there'd been any urgency (i.e. a five man strong bandwagon on you; if it had mattered at all) I'd have changed back to Kt, if Kt had been bandwagoned to death I wouldn't have changed back. I didn't want a death but if I had to kill someone it would have been kt as I think a cursory glance at my posts will confirm. As for the checking her reaction bit, absolutely true (if not the whole truth about my objectives).


    Quote Originally Posted by mutton View Post
    - don't see how a pm discussion between Think and kt can lessen his doubt about her
    For a mafioso she was pretty convincing on the suspecting-me-of-being-in-collusion-with-bfdirty front, and there were lots of other "villager tics" so to speak; I may have overestimated how difficult it would have been to pepper a post with some of these, but they were the sort of things someone would have to take care over. I mean really in hindsight maybe I should have just stuck to my guns but hell I didn't want to hand the mafia an advantage and my suspicion seemed to melt pretty fast when I really thought about it. It was better reasoned than most but ultimately it still seemed like mostly overblown self-convincing guesswork on my part.

    Quote Originally Posted by mutton View Post
    - his strategy is fishy: manipulate others' votes, prevent lynching, give the mafia a free kill at night, miss info obtained from lynching
    I hope you're not suggesting that this is how I thought of it.
    Yes I mobilised voters, yes I tried to prevent the death of a villager, yes I wanted clues from the mafia's first night, no I didn't think the realisation that we'd bandwagoned a villager would help us much. Strange what language can do to a statement of fact, huh? (also, it's minor, but odd numbers during the day ain't a bad thing for us)


    Quote Originally Posted by mutton View Post
    - i expect kt's vote (for Think) to change by the end of day 2 for seemingly no reason, like it did on day 1
    Believe me, Kt wants me dead a lot more than you do.




    Quote Originally Posted by mutton View Post
    i think Think would be this invested on both sides
    chance of him being the greatest asset is offset by that of him being the greatest threat
    On the other hand objectively I'm only one of the two, and although I would say this, really really really it's the former.

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    Just to let you know. Think, approached me first and I had no contact with bfdirty.
    I confirm this.

    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    Wait... what exactly did Think tell you in his PM? I looked back in this thread, and I couldn't find it...
    I told him I wasn't really voting for him, I would change back to Kt, and that I was testing her reaction. If you add a moderating clause to the second part of the sentence (i.e. "if it really mattered", which it isn't unreasonable to tell yourself is implicit) and you note that the last part isn't a positive lie but one of omission (that's not all I'm doing), then I think you'll agree that "Think's pm was a lie" could be a little disingenuous.

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    Maybe Think is just crazy you guys. Too much meth or something and hes paranoid all over the place with his votes. I mean in PM's he was talking about witches and even mentioned werewolves a few times in this thread.

    Is he just a junkie, or is he mafioso?

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    /unlynch Kt.

    Obviously we arent going to have the votes to lynch Kt. Thats a shame because Im near positive Think and Kt. are mafiosos.

    /lynch Think

    We have nearly the votes to finish Think off. Think honestly needs to be done. His strategy of "dont lynch anyone" freezes us and leaves us to die in the night. I know people are going to return fire claiming a sudden blood thirst, but honestly we need to get in gear and do some good before night falls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfdirty View Post
    /unlynch Kt.

    Obviously we arent going to have the votes to lynch Kt. Thats a shame because Im near positive Think and Kt. are mafiosos.

    /lynch Think

    We have nearly the votes to finish Think off. Think honestly needs to be done. His strategy of "dont lynch anyone" freezes us and leaves us to die in the night. I know people are going to return fire claiming a sudden blood thirst, but honestly we need to get in gear and do some good before night falls.
    I don't blame you dude, but your motivation is transparent

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    ok, fuck it, /lynch Kt

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    Just wondering Think... what the hell was all that about werewolves?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    Just wondering Think... what the hell was all that about werewolves?
    I'm used to playing TWG.
    By which I mean we are facing a horde of werewolf mafia. They desecrated the host and have been cursed to think like animals. Or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by bfdirty View Post
    /lynch Kt

    In truth the oddest thing was the willingness of think and kt to work together to save me despite their outward appearance of conflict. I cannot say that this proves they are Mafia, but I cannot ignore it. They will squabble this round and eventually choose to vote for others.
    Quote Originally Posted by mutton View Post
    /lynch Think or kt if there are more votes for her by the end of day 2

    - i expect kt's vote (for Think) to change by the end of day 2 for seemingly no reason, like it did on day 1
    Having thought about it, I realise that these posts preclude kt from legitimately changing her mind about me and force me to vote for her lynching, under threat of our being lynched ourselves.
    I regard this as being incredibly suspicious and will not be cajoled and played in this way. This is a false dichotomy. I know how this will be seen (consider why it looks that way and you'll understand why I'm doing it anyway) but I will not go quietly, I will not play strategically when the rules have already been set by others.
    /unlynch kt
    lynch mutton
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    This is getting annoying.

    /lynch Think

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    (just to make it clear, if you look at this thread with the supposition that simonj, bfdirty and mutton are mafiosi then everything makes sense)

    EDIT: OK now I am dead (I promise I wrote that before I saw the above and am done now)
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    Think, you are fantastic at manipulation

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    It was a preposterous proposition.

    "You can't lynch me!" screamed Think, "I'm the greatest asset to the fucking town! I own this city!" The rest of the town shared knowing glances about his werewolf talk and how great he was and rolled their eyes as they kicked the stool out from under him. After Think stopped thinking, he was cut down from the ceiling beam and the rest of the town quickly searched his body for his wallet, because he was so rich.

    Why was he rich? Because not only was he Town-aligned, he was the fucking Infermiera, the Nurse of the town, capable of saving players from Mafia attacks in the night. Man, considering all the times KT. went to collect anti-sore cream, how many times sycld got his anti-retrovirals from Think and all the times Think slipped Vengeful Scars a little extra methadone under the table, the town would have known he was the fucking Doctor. Apparently not.

    Now all that remains for the town is to root out the remaining three mafia members, not one of which has been picked. Those lucky bastards.

    Everyone with night actions get them into me ASAP, because...

    NIGHT 2 BEGINS
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    if the towns actions follow the remaining pattern of hanging themselves, then there will be one more day phase in this game.
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    Told you he was just crazy.

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    You also said he was on meth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    You also said he was on meth.
    Just a theory for the crazy.

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    *sigh*



    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
    The rest of the town shared knowing glances about his werewolf talk
    lol




    okay so we'll have 7 townspeeps remaining after tonight's murder, assuming that there isn't another player with a special role that can somehow prevent it or otherwise cause something else to happen...

    we'll need all the 4 of the townspeople remaining to vote for a mafia, but given that 3 of those who remain are mafia still... oh boy...


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    DAY 3 BEGINS

    The townsfolk of Seedyville arise and yawn, stretch and mutter incomprensible profanities as they awake to the sweetly shining morning sun. The entire town smells like coffee, with a distinct undertone of espresso and superiority. Everyone gathers at the old lynchin' hall to once again determine the fate of someone who may or may not be a Mafia member.

    "Hey," Infernus, a law-abiding townsfolk says, "Anyone got any good ideas fo- HRRRRRRKRKKKKHHHH"

    He folds up to the ground with a garrotte around his throat, a knife in his back and a gunshot wound to the chest. Somehow, nobody saw who pulled this shit, but it was certainly someone in the room.

    With 7 people remaining in town, and all 3 mafia members clearly active, it's going to take 4 votes to hang a bitch.
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    I have no idea how we're going to manage this shit.

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    well there goes who I was going to vote for this round

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    /lynch coqauvin
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    current votes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
    /lynch coqauvin
    i think this is in reaction to our performance thus far :x


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    Lydia Lynch

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    Well...



    somebody say something!!!!!!


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    I think we've reached a stalemate.

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    Fine.

    Lynch bfdirty.

    If he's so oblivious as to make himself look guilty then I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt.

    No this isn't my final vote. I just want to get these balls bouncing.

    I mean rolling... ball rolling.


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    /lynch Shitface

    He's barely made a single contribution to this thread but it's not like he's been away or anything. I find that quite suspicious (like he's just been watching and then colluding with other mafia members at night). I can think of both positives and negatives for everyone else but I can't justify Shitface's role (or lack thereof) and that just doesn't sit right with me. So that's my vote for now.

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    we r so fucked
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    lynch bfdiryty

    fuck him he's a dick
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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    /lynch Shitface

    He's barely made a single contribution to this thread but it's not like he's been away or anything. I find that quite suspicious (like he's just been watching and then colluding with other mafia members at night). I can think of both positives and negatives for everyone else but I can't justify Shitface's role (or lack thereof) and that just doesn't sit right with me. So that's my vote for now.
    Actually I was about to make this same post. Remember the first vote? He waited until Coq issued a deadline to vote and then bandwagoned with a bfdirty vote. (Think, Infernus, and Sailor Jack also waited but they're dead now)

    And I know he'd been lurking around before there was a deadline. Mutton and Sycld also voted late but they waited until way after the initial deadline (they couldn't have previously known the deadline would be extended).

    Also, Shitface knows how to play the game. I've seen him in other towns lynching "werewolves".

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    oh almost forgot
    lynch Shitface

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    Fine.

    unlynch bfdirty

    lynch shitface


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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    /lynch Shitface

    He's barely made a single contribution to this thread but it's not like he's been away or anything. I find that quite suspicious (like he's just been watching and then colluding with other mafia members at night). I can think of both positives and negatives for everyone else but I can't justify Shitface's role (or lack thereof) and that just doesn't sit right with me. So that's my vote for now.
    I've found a job and have been working lots so I dont get much interneting time.
    I have been keeping watch.

    also, sycld and kt: fuck you guys!
    i wouldn't have thought either of you woulda votes for me :'(

    its funny though, cos you're wrong.
    or are you





    no you are

    oh btw
    /lynch KT.
    payback :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShitFace View Post
    I've found a job and have been working lots so I dont get much interneting time.
    I have been keeping watch.
    Yeah, working on who to kill next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShitFace View Post
    also, sycld and kt: fuck you guys!

    mmmm they'll be plenty of time for that after you're dead


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    unlynch Bfdirty

    lynch KT
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    I bet Shitface and Vengeful Scars are both mafioso. I think it's suspicious that VS would change his vote from bfdirty to me. If Shitface was mafioso and VS wasn't, it would be more logical for VS to change his vote to Shitface, who already has 3 votes or not change his vote at all. If VS was mafioso and Shitface wasn't, it still would be more logical to change his vote to Shitface. (If I understand correctly it takes 4 votes to lynch)

    By voting for me VS, Shitface, and the 3rd mafioso hope to convince the remaining townie to vote me out.

    OR Vengeful Scars is just retarded. I'm not willing to rule this out either.

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