as long as kt is telling the truth i got the same pm from atmos saying he was a brit, so atmos isnt running a ruse.
as long as kt is telling the truth i got the same pm from atmos saying he was a brit, so atmos isnt running a ruse.
flush Simonj
I'll change it if and when you change your vote. I have no strong preference for which of you two goes first.
When coq said the other two mafia members were me and snead I assumed he was in cahoots with Atmoscheer due to the way the few posts before that had played out, Atmosfear's "this is big news, extend the deadline" kerfuffle etc. I realise now that was hasty and short-sighted. And as it has been confirmed beyond currently reasonable doubt that Atmoscheer is legit I have withdrawn my suspicions for him
(although let's not forget it's still possible the remaining two mafia are atmosfear and infernus but no point jumping the gun just yet)
If you can honestly figure out a way that infernus and I would be the 2 remaining mafia, you are crazier than MrShrike.
You faked the PM from KT.
I don't believe you did do that but it's not impossible.
Apparently I haven't been paying enough attention, but I will say flush shitface because I had a dream that he was my drug dealer. I don't know what you look like shitface, and I didn't see you in my dream.. my partner called you but you were too far away so we decided to end doing business with you
I also signed coqauvin's death warrant when I could have traded him for the nurse by forcing the nurse to declare in order to prove coqauvin was lying.
Then I shared the identity of the nurse with 2 people so we could guarantee that, if coqauvin was actually the nurse, we wouldn't let a mafia off the hook (because I was the next to die.) FOR THAT TO BE A MAFIA PLAY, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE FOUR MAFIA or we would have had to kill the 4th (town) person (who thus knew the identity of 2 mafia.) Since all the people I told are still alive, as well as the nurse, I think it's pretty clear I'm a useless fucking Brit.
The only way I'm mafia is if you try to MrShrike this.
I've checked now and Snead hasn't been active since August 21. As Shrike said (rather surprisingly adeptly, I might add), his (edit: coqauvin's) optimal play was to lie about one person, so the best case is we lynch a town and abandon his accusation, and worst case we lynch a mafia and then lynch a town thinking he was truthful. Since Snead was already as good as dead when Coqauvin slipped, he would have assumed we'd go back to lynching him first.
So unflush Snead and flush simonj.
Last edited by Atmosfear; 08-27-2010 at 12:33 AM. Reason: clarifying the pronoun in the last paragraph
Well then I'll go with flush shitface to try and avoid a total paranoid bandwagon against me.
For the record, I wasn't 'accusing' anyone of anything. I was throwing out crazy 'possibilities' to keep our options open.
I was just pointing out that, as someone who doesn't know the identity of the nurse, I have no real evidence that you did any of that other than your word which is, due to the nature of the game, not entirely reliable (no one else has come forward as knowing the identity of the nurse - and nor should they)
I wasn't accusing you of being mafia. It was a hypothetical one. An extremely unlikely one but an entirely possible one nonetheless (unless I missed something salient) backed up with reasons. Don't go throwing in Mrshrike parallels where they don't belong.
Will you fucks please stop using my name as a synonym for drunken blathering?
Well regardless of simonj's mafia or town allegiance, that seems pretty unlikely.
(Just like it seems unlikely sailor jack survives the first night of any future games)
I'm working on a vote history in a more readable format (see: Excel)
Give me a half hour
took a quick glance over lunch and the coq/simonj/x mafia theory seems more likely to be true than the atmos/infernus/coq theory
but it's actually still possible that atmosfear and infernus are the last two mafia members, but that's not saying much i guess
I don't doubt that but......this is the only point I was making, while I was still able to (my point being that if we uncover no more mafia in the next lynching [which from the looks of it we won't] then you'll know why).but it's actually still possible that atmosfear and infernus are the last two mafia members, but that's not saying much i guess
i mean coq and infernus would've had to accuse eachother atleast once in the game in a not so serious fashion so that we can't link cooperation between all three mafia members (i believe they did, but likely not with this purpose) , and then inventing a sheriff pm after he/she dies so that it could grant them both inmunity, which would work cause there would be no way of confirming it's valid. oh and KT could've just played it safe. it seems far fetched
then theres the x/coq/simonj theory
simonj initially stated coq was innocent, and could be considered as support to a mafia member, but at that time the game was actually just getting started, and there was no solid proof that even hinted coq as a mafia member
the day that think got lynched simonj voted to flush think, maybe it was so that the third mafia member could remain hidden and a tie could be forced. the best that could happen? think gets lynched because of a coin toss and coq lives to kill again, which luckily happened, it was the best that could be done without being too obvious about saving coq from a lynching.
then coq "accepted" defeat, theres a chance he pointed out an innocent player and a mafia member (snead and simonj respectively) in that post, so that we all thought "lol terrible bluff they are both innocent" and would lead us to think atmosfear and someone else (infernus?) are both mafia members.
so it's a far fetched theory, againts a somewhat possible one. still, i'll give this aditional thought, even though it seems like "go with the simplest explanation" kind of thing
Last edited by zuelan; 08-27-2010 at 12:46 PM.
Not necessarily. I don't currently believe Atmosfear & Infernus are mafia, I think they're bandwagoning against me due to paranoia so lynching them after I turn out innocent could potentially lose you the game (or help win you the game if you happen to be mafia).
Then again, if I get lynched because members are threatened by me pointing out a hypothetical possibility in a game where hypothetical possibilities are a bulk portion of said game then you deserve to lose it.
Edit: rather than go back and do rework, I kept track of the order of votes starting with Day 3. You can twist my arm to do Day 2, but there's no way I'm doing Day 1.
Edit 2: Updated vote chart because I missed Think's vote Day 2. This of course didn't matter much because Think died soon thereafter.
I really don't know what to tell you. I'm not super suspicious of anyone. As I'm not privvy to atmosfear's information I don't know who to narrow down although I understand revealing this information is potential suicide.
The fact we've had so many players stay quiet certainly doesn't help. Sponge, Snead, Shitface and Infernus have all made no discerning votes (I'm not counting votes against sycld). You and WellAdjusted have only made one vote each since day 1 ended and Atmoscheer, MrShrike & myself are the only players to cast votes on all 3 days.
I find MrShrike most suspicious but I don't want a knee-jerk anti-idiot response to get in the way of actual logic.
Well that's ridiculous.
Originally you said you'd be suspicious of me if we hadn't lynched anyone by the 4th or 5th day.
Now that I've served up a mafia when I obviously could've protected him (or at least forced the nurse to reveal himself), as well as shared all the information I have, I'm somehow more suspect if we don't lynch the right person tonight?
Sorry, but I'm not going to pretend my odds are better than 50-50.
MrShrike is definitely not mafia.
Not only is he one of the people who knows the nurse's identity, he also told the nurse that he knows. If he were mafia, he could have killed me and then lynched the nurse today, and he hasn't done that.
Surely if he did that he'd immediately out himself as mafia?
Meh, fair point... He still would've needed to off me, and I still doubt he would bother telling the nurse he knows the identity.
I'm not disagreeing with you (and never really was) but do you see why there might be holes in your plan to someone who has no reason to be anything but suspicious?
Have to play the cards you're dealt.
current votes
Code:votes against voted to flush Atmoscheer 0 simonj infernus 0 simonj MrShrike 0 simonj simonj 4 ShitFace ShitFace 2 Snead 0 sponge 0 simonj WellAdjusted 0 ShitFace zuelan 0
Day 4 ends.
simonj says he is the fat British comedian Peter Kay, but nobody believes him. The toilet is turbulent because coqauvin/Liam Gallagher won't shut up even after dying, so simonj calls him a knobhead and jumps in to crush the ghost.
Night 4 begins.
+repped
OOOOOooooooo well done though guys...
Last edited by coqauvin; 08-30-2010 at 02:13 AM.
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