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    The Theory of Relativity they are referring to is the theory of special relativity. They are using Time Dilation to give reasons for his ability to travel back in time, but in reality it means that, given two clocks: one traveling at the speed of light and the other not the two clocks will be out of sync to an outward observer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    The Theory of Relativity they are referring to is the theory of special relativity. They are using Time Dilation to give reasons for his ability to travel back in time, but in reality it means that, given two clocks: one traveling at the speed of light and the other not the two clocks will be out of sync to an outward observer.
    I'm glad someone else recognized that what they are saying is wrong. The theory of special relativity says that the faster an object moves the slower time goes for that object relative to something not moving as fast. That was a poor way of wording it but I think it gets the point across. Nowhere in the theory of relativity or special relativity does it say that if you go faster than the speed of light you go backwards. Shit if we could get near a black hole we could send people into the future. Have them chill above the event horizon for a couple months. It is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light and there are good reasons for it. The main one is that as you travel faster you actually gain mass. Until you approach good percentages of light speed the difference is absolutely negligible but as you do you gain mass. As you approach 100% of light speed(570 million miles an hour) as you pass 99% you start to realize how much mass you gain and by the time you get to like 99.5% you will probably not be able to continue moving. Even if you were able to have some cock diesel back up engine to give you an extra boost to compensate for the weight added, it would just fail quickly because the amount of mass you gain once you get reaaaaally close to light speed is unfathomable.

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    Don't get too down guys. Brian Fuller said that the first three episodes of Fugitives were awesome, and then on the fourth the man himself is finally back at the pen. He said that Heroes got to muddled and that he wants it to go back to being about the characters. I am pumped, even though they are finally doing the thing that they couldn't avoid forever: ripping off Xmen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
    Don't get too down guys. Brian Fuller said that the first three episodes of Fugitives were awesome, and then on the fourth the man himself is finally back at the pen. He said that Heroes got to muddled and that he wants it to go back to being about the characters. I am pumped, even though they are finally doing the thing that they couldn't avoid forever: ripping off Xmen
    Yeah. Tim Kring personally fired the producers that fucked it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi View Post
    Yeah. Tim Kring personally fired the producers that fucked it up.
    That's nowhere near good enough for a showrunner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    That's nowhere near good enough for a showrunner.
    But it makes it better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    Peter accidentally accidentally.
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    Peter then accidentally all of Sylar's powers.

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    Is anyone else getting excited about this Monday?

    Oh, and Peter's got his power back! Doodah! Doodah!
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    To be honest? No, I have LOST (TAKE A SHOT) faith in this show, and find it difficult to believe that there will ever be a saving grace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    To be honest? No, I have LOST (TAKE A SHOT) faith in this show, and find it difficult to believe that there will ever be a saving grace.
    Well, at least Heroes isn't a sad show loosely based off of Lord of the Flies.
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    I would act offended, but you simply have no idea what you are talking about..I've watched both shows.

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    Well, you can't deny that LOST is essentially a modern version of LotF.
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    Having read LotF twice I can contend it does not involve the following: time travel, a black smoke monster, "others", a hatch, anything about a certain secretive foundation which is using the island to conduct experiments, or a beautiful scientist.

    There are certainly elements which have been used to give a nod to LotF.

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    Piggy was a beautiful scientist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Having read LotF twice I can contend it does not involve the following: time travel, a black smoke monster, "others", a hatch, anything about a certain secretive foundation which is using the island to conduct experiments, or a beautiful scientist.

    There are certainly elements which have been used to give a nod to LotF.
    I think a more accurate comparison would be Robinson Crusoe.

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    I would say, really, Lost in Space more than Robison Crusoe.

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    Heroes > LOST

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    I'm sorry, but I just laughed out loud in my office and everyone asked me what was so funny. And when I said, "Someone said Heroes was greater than LOST," everyone else burst out laughing, too. Then God opened the roof and was all, "What's going on, guys?" and my boss explained the situation, and God started laughing, which sadly caused a tsunami.

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    Heroes is better than Lost.
    Heroes is terrible, but will get better (Brian Fuller ftw)
    Lost was better, but got terrible

    imo, of course

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    I still have hope for Heroes. S1 was awesome. S2 was poor, at its best it was average. S3 started like 2, although episode 3 was awesome, but it picked up towards the end and started going in the right direction.

    I tried to watch Lost, but it didn't hold my interest.

    Also, I am loving Dexter season 2 so far.

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    So, you consider a show with no foreseeable end in sight is better than a show with an established end date and clear path of story..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    So, you consider a show with no foreseeable end in sight is better than a show with an established end date and clear path of story..
    Well, clear is arguable, but I've never been high on the whole, "This is where the story begins, this is where it ends, now let's make it" in regards to television shows. I like my shows to have the freedom to evolve indefinitely, like Smallville for instance (even though everybody hates Smallville except me and Vanilla Bear). When I want a succinct story with a planned beginning and end I prefer movies or books.

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    Finally got round to watching it, holy shit that was good. Ando cycle was awesome. This series has some serious potential, I will wait till a few episodes in before I get my hopes up but this might just be season 1 quality.

    How badass was Sylar? I love it when they try to capture him and it looks like he is going down, then he goes "oh no you didn't" and dishes out a savage raping. I hope that is the Sylar we see throughout the series. I don't care if he is good or bad guy, but when he is a badass he is awesome to watch.

    It looks like they may have decided to ditch the same old "here is da future, now lets not make dat happn kk?", I hope we don't see any of that, as good as it was in s1, it shouldn't have got reused the way it did. We have no idea where this one is going to go and I for one am glad, if that episode was anything to go by, its straight ahead to awesome station.

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    With Sylar, he's going to become a good guy...but for all the wrong reasons. After the "hunt" is over, he'll go back to being bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi View Post
    With Sylar, he's going to become a good guy...but for all the wrong reasons. After the "hunt" is over, he'll go back to being bad.
    I'd prefer to see him good for the bad reasons. IMO he is just much better to watch when he is being a badass.

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    Exactly my point. It's like what he did against the goons that tried to catch him. He killed them, making him bad...but he killed the enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gismo View Post
    It looks like they may have decided to ditch the same old "here is da future, now lets not make dat happn kk?", I hope we don't see any of that, as good as it was in s1, it shouldn't have got reused the way it did. We have no idea where this one is going to go and I for one am glad, if that episode was anything to go by, its straight ahead to awesome station.
    I guess we lost our time-travelers (thank god)

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    Hiro will eventually get his power back.
    Daphne can go back in time with Ando.
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    Just caught the last 2 episodes, and so far so good. At last we got a glimpse of the future, I wondered how long that would take, that said I like how it is going.

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    OH shit episode 19 was good. First one in ages where the ending left me gagging for more. My face lit up when that baldy bulldog gets home after pushing Nathan out of the window and finds the bunny rabbit waiting for him. I can't wait to see Sylar destroy him.

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    They're right, Im watching the 2 latest episodes and it's becoming much better.

    BTW I believe Rebel is Micah? Any other opinions? I'm still watching the latest episodes so if it gets revealed by the end of this one then woopsie my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crapoo16 View Post
    They're right, Im watching the 2 latest episodes and it's becoming much better.

    BTW I believe Rebel is Micah? Any other opinions? I'm still watching the latest episodes so if it gets revealed by the end of this one then woopsie my bad.
    Rebel is probably Hana Gitleman.

    She only had a small role in Season 1 of the tv show, but is featured in some of the supplemental comics.

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    i have been suspecting hana for a while now.

    although we haven't seen micah for a while, so it could be the two of them working together. we know they've had contact.

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    Well you don't have a clear vision of how long a show should last you get Heroes season 3.

    --and for that matter LOST season 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Well you don't have a clear vision of how long a show should last you get Heroes season 3.

    --and for that matter LOST season 3.
    A show with a definite end is just a really long movie. I'd rather wait for the whole thing to end, download all of them, and watch them in a 7 day marathon.

    The reason Lost is so silly to follow is because it doesn't ever tie up any loose ends. Other shows, say Prison Break, tie up everything at the end of each season. To be honest, I'd say you could watch Prison Break in any particular order (season wise) and it would still make sense.

    As for Heroes, I wouldn't say quite the same, but it's a whole lot closer than Lost.

    ...in other news...holy shit last night was awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoXRider31 View Post
    A show with a definite end is just a really long movie. I'd rather wait for the whole thing to end, download all of them, and watch them in a 7 day marathon.

    The reason Lost is so silly to follow is because it doesn't ever tie up any loose ends. Other shows, say Prison Break, tie up everything at the end of each season. To be honest, I'd say you could watch Prison Break in any particular order (season wise) and it would still make sense.
    But then it's just a 24 or other season-arc serialized shows.

    LOST has an overarching mythology, but it also has season-arcs and many other sub-plots.

    They opened the hatch at the end of season 1, boom, season 2 premier you know what's in it. Who was in the coffin at the end of season 3? Season 4 finale gave you that answer. Who is on the freighter? You get that answer.

    You get answers when you need them, not when you want them. What loose ends haven't really be tied?

    Way to bring up prison break though, a show that's getting canceled for going no where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    But then it's just a 24 or other season-arc serialized shows.

    LOST has an overarching mythology, but it also has season-arcs and many other sub-plots.

    They opened the hatch at the end of season 1, boom, season 2 premier you know what's in it. Who was in the coffin at the end of season 3? Season 4 finale gave you that answer. Who is on the freighter? You get that answer.

    You get answers when you need them, not when you want them. What loose ends haven't really be tied?

    Way to bring up prison break though, a show that's getting canceled for going no where.
    Arguing over this is rather silly because I doubt anything I say will change your mine as well as vice versa.

    Needless to say, I enjoy Heroes more than Lost.

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    Three hours and 23 minutes to go...by my clock.
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