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    Im watching Heroes right now, and Im wondering why they cant stay dead.

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    Because there are enough of them with enough healing powers for anyone to be in the right position to save anyone at any time

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    Claire Bennett is a deus ex machina.

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    Why does the "German" have to have the power of magnetism.

    And Mohinder going to inject himself without testing it on some guinea pig like a rabbit seemed out of character.

    Meh at least the story is plodding along at a good pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolio View Post
    Why does the "German" have to have the power of magnetism.

    And Mohinder going to inject himself without testing it on some guinea pig like a rabbit seemed out of character.

    Meh at least the story is plodding along at a good pace.
    Magneto was unavailable, so they had to bring in someone else.

    I think the fact that it was out of character made it in character. He's one of those stuffy guys who never takes any risks then one day he takes one and shit blows up in his face.

    Yeah, there is that, but the writing is pretty bad so far. No emotional connection with the characters. And if Sylar is Nathan and Peter's brother for real it is just gonna be stupid.

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    I have to agree with piranhas here. Everyone can't arise from the dead. There are simply too many "heroes" now. Villains are less numerous still, but there are so many subplots now that it's going to be hard to figure out who, when, and where everything is happening. Hopefully much of the flab will be cut down, with more focus on a few different people than the ten or so different scenes that played this past Monday. I'm wondering now if the writer's strike was a blessing in disguise. Don't get me wrong, I fell in love with Heroes almost has soon as it hit the airwaves, but I think they are trying too hard to pack this much content into an hour show.

    Btw, who the fuck gave "future" Peter the soul melding ability? Unless I missed something...

    Wait, what? Brother? Gabriel Gray? That's a longshot, but anywho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piranhas View Post
    Claire Bennett is a deus ex machina.
    not anymore

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    Downloading Episode one and two. Eagerly awaiting to watch. Question: Episode one and two were played back to back last Monday or has season three been going on for a couple of weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Pino Rage View Post
    Downloading Episode one and two. Eagerly awaiting to watch. Question: Episode one and two were played back to back last Monday or has season three been going on for a couple of weeks?
    Back to back.

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    There is a lot of cheap stuff going on, for sure. For one thing, this whole time travel business has been all but exhausted. Nikki having multiple personalities has been exhausted. Claire almost dying but then not dying has been exhausted. The Peter's dead oh wait no he isn't now Nathan is dead wait nope thing has been exhausted. I feel like nothing interesting is happening. And I always found the Maya storyline uninteresting (her super power is making people's eyes turn to black goo? really?).

    On the Dr. Suresh front...well. While it may seem like the self-injection was out of character, he has kind of been whining about not being special for the entire series. So I wasn't too surprised.

    Overall, I'm pretty disappointed with the new episodes. It seems like whatever captivated me before is gone. We'll see.

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    I too am dissapointed with the new stuff. That girl being so fast, Hiro cannot stop her pissed me off, Mohinder becoming spiderman was just too much. They are running out of ideas and making it become too fantastical, the first season was great because it was as grounded in reality as possible but it is moving away from that at a massive rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    There is a lot of cheap stuff going on, for sure. For one thing, this whole time travel business has been all but exhausted. Nikki having multiple personalities has been exhausted. Claire almost dying but then not dying has been exhausted. The Peter's dead oh wait no he isn't now Nathan is dead wait nope thing has been exhausted. I feel like nothing interesting is happening. And I always found the Maya storyline uninteresting (her super power is making people's eyes turn to black goo? really?).

    On the Dr. Suresh front...well. While it may seem like the self-injection was out of character, he has kind of been whining about not being special for the entire series. So I wasn't too surprised.

    Overall, I'm pretty disappointed with the new episodes. It seems like whatever captivated me before is gone. We'll see.
    Thats what I thought.

    Also, where all the other episodes so freaking dark? It's like the filmed the first episode during a power outage.

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    Ok, I thought tonight's episode was the best episode since season one

    I actually enjoyed it and was intrigued by stuff that happened

    plus fluffy Sylar looks fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    There is a lot of cheap stuff going on, for sure. For one thing, this whole time travel business has been all but exhausted. Nikki having multiple personalities has been exhausted. Claire almost dying but then not dying has been exhausted. The Peter's dead oh wait no he isn't now Nathan is dead wait nope thing has been exhausted. I feel like nothing interesting is happening. And I always found the Maya storyline uninteresting (her super power is making people's eyes turn to black goo? really?).

    On the Dr. Suresh front...well. While it may seem like the self-injection was out of character, he has kind of been whining about not being special for the entire series. So I wasn't too surprised.

    Overall, I'm pretty disappointed with the new episodes. It seems like whatever captivated me before is gone. We'll see.
    agreed about everything except nikki. this isn't multiples -- nikki died in an explosion.

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    I'm surprised Sylar took the fat guys power and not the black guy's

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    DishNetwork misled me.

    The info for it said Mohinder has unexpected results from his experiment. He wasn't even in the episode.

    However, I loved the turn where Sylar's a Petrelli and he teams up with Noah.

    Also, Claire's mom [biological] rocks.

    My question is when Zimmerman said he "made" whats-her-name....did he mean her and Nikki were his twin daughters or were they lab results?

    I was also glad to see the Haitian. I missed him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by llFidoll View Post
    I'm surprised Sylar took the fat guys power and not the black guy's
    he didn't kill anybody

    the fat guy was shown being put back in the cell at the end.

    For this being called Heroes: Villains, I'm kind of surprised all the villains sans Hiro's nemesis and her boss have been caught

    also, what about Peter's girlfriend who got stuck in the future? Did he stop caring about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post

    For this being called Heroes: Villains, I'm kind of surprised all the villains sans Hiro's nemesis and her boss have been caught

    also, what about Peter's girlfriend who got stuck in the future? Did he stop caring about that?
    There's supposed to be more villains that we won't see for a while.

    and I too wondered about that. Since that future isn't the future anymore, does that mean that Caetlin stopped existing? or is she still real in a tangent universe?

    Either way I don't think she's coming back ever.

    Also, that black guy in africa with Isaac's power.... I hope his power is to see more than just Parkman's future, cause that would be lame as hellllllllllllll.


    EDIT: Apparently Tim Kring said that the whole caetlin thing would have been resolved if they had gotten to do a whole second season. So he says to just consider it an "Unfinished chapter"
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    I am downloading episode 3 as we speak.

    Sylar and Noah team up? That has to be fucking awesome, the 2 biggest badasses in the show, it can only lead to the win. I hope they get things back on track. I am fed up of someone learning the future and trying to stop it, its been done too many times now. Introducing bad guys is a good way to go if done right, I just fear that the show peaked in season 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
    he didn't kill anybody

    the fat guy was shown being put back in the cell at the end.
    I'm pretty sure that he "consumed" Jesse's power, as he's seen cutting him open against the glass window. All you see after is a splatter of blood.

    Heroes is starting to get way too tough to keep track of. Plus, each episode feels like it should be two hours long, as once I settle down and get into the show, it's already over...

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    They had so much potential to give Suresh some kind of sweet as power, but instead they just turned him into some recycled Beast wannabe.

    I'm disappointed in the new season so far.

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    Episode 3 was pretty awesome. Part of me wishes Sylar and Noah could be buddies, and they would rename it to the Sylar and Bennet adventures, it would be the greatest show ever.

    I still hate how Daphne can run faster than time, no no no, it isn't right. I want someone to beat her up. I hope Sylar gets her. To be honest, I hope Sylar doesn't get killed, he is just too good a character and for me is one of the few things that is keeping Heroes watchable now, they need him until the story picks up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oats View Post
    They had so much potential to give Suresh some kind of sweet as power, but instead they just turned him into some recycled Beast wannabe.

    I'm disappointed in the new season so far.
    I thought more Spiderman without webs than beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by llFidoll View Post
    I thought more Spiderman without webs than beast.
    The wall climbing for sure. But the way he was hanging from the roof after that Maya chick comes in was almost exactly like Beast.

    Plus he is a scientist etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oats View Post
    The wall climbing for sure. But the way he was hanging from the roof after that Maya chick comes in was almost exactly like Beast.

    Plus he is a scientist etc.
    But then he nailed a hottie.

    That gives him spidey points.

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    Plus Spiderman is a scientist too yo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
    Plus Spiderman is a scientist too yo.
    And his hands looked all sticky in that one preview.

    Could have been jism though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by llFidoll View Post
    I'm surprised Sylar took the fat guys power and not the black guy's
    Just saw the episdoe. The black dude had super strength right?

    Why would Sylar need that when he can break your neck from 10 meters away?

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    The black guy was fed off of others' fears to obtain his strength.

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    Oh that's right. My bad.

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    Yep, so it's confirmed. After watching the third episode in this new season, I'm done. It's become too stupid for suspension of disbelief. What a disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    Yep, so it's confirmed. After watching the third episode in this new season, I'm done. It's become too stupid for suspension of disbelief. What a disappointment.
    I surprised you made it that far. I only made it about 1/4 the way through the first episode and that did it in for me.

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    Episode 4 was interesting. Whilst I dissaprove of the constant re use of plot devices, this one gave me a bit more hope that the season will pick up. It was fun seeing Sylar as a good guy lol, but I still prefer him as the baddy, when his son dies its like "oh shit son, you forget that I am a secret badass and Ill fuck yo shit up" and he nukes the black dude, I thought it was pretty good. In saying that, I think it has become too fantastical to be salvaged. For me it is still watchable but I think the heights of season 1 will never be seen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gismo View Post
    Episode 4 was interesting. Whilst I dissaprove of the constant re use of plot devices, this one gave me a bit more hope that the season will pick up. It was fun seeing Sylar as a good guy lol, but I still prefer him as the baddy, when his son dies its like "oh shit son, you forget that I am a secret badass and Ill fuck yo shit up" and he nukes the black dude, I thought it was pretty good. In saying that, I think it has become too fantastical to be salvaged. For me it is still watchable but I think the heights of season 1 will never be seen again.
    My brother keeps saying that season 3 is amazing and much better than the other two.

    There in he's very naive about tv shows in general, since this is the first one he's watched from start to present while it actually aired.

    As opposed to syndication,

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    Is sylar dead? I'm not entirely sure about that. Also, I agree with the whole "girl who can run faster than time" being retarded, because, well, "I wasn't fast enough" to get away from that nuclear explosion but she can run faster than time? Dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Friend View Post
    Is sylar dead? I'm not entirely sure about that. Also, I agree with the whole "girl who can run faster than time" being retarded, because, well, "I wasn't fast enough" to get away from that nuclear explosion but she can run faster than time? Dumb.
    Speed of sound. Not Time.

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    I'm enjoying season 3 but it seems to be full of either huge plot holes or unexplained answers. Like how come bullets can kill Peter when he has the regeneration power, yet that explosion didn't?

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    Did not enjoy episode 4. Seemed silly and full of plot holes if you ask me.

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    Papa Petrelli is coming....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infernus View Post
    I'm enjoying season 3 but it seems to be full of either huge plot holes or unexplained answers. Like how come bullets can kill Peter when he has the regeneration power, yet that explosion didn't?
    That's a good point. I thought the only way to stop regen was to lodge something in the brain/cortex. Which is odd if powers come from the adrenal glands, but I guess without a brain you can't produce.. and so on.


    I'm only continuing to watch it because it's Tivo'd, but on the whole this whole season is getting way out of proportion.

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