Thread: LOST [Spoilers]

Originally Posted by gwahir

Now I'm thinking otherwise. The circle has been broken. The Incident happened independent of Jughead, because it began significantly before it exploded. Now, things have changed.

Right because why would there be a hatch if Jughead exploded in 1977? Also, in 2007 aren't there videos of Dr. Chang after the incident?

Originally Posted by KT.

Right because why would there be a hatch if Jughead exploded in 1977? Also, in 2007 aren't there videos of Dr. Chang after the incident?

I thought Jughead would either not get blown up or cause the incident, and the blast doors etc in the swan would be because of the explosion of Jughead, not the incident itself.

Summarize the article, at work, cannot read.

Hooray! I love double epsiodes.

lol picture of faraday writing on the blackboard.

the minutes of the lost panel:

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a167283...comic-con.html

YES
YES
YESSSSSSSSSS
YES
I knew this.
Hooray!
Okay.

The entire season seems to be leading to the premise that Jughead was going to reset things, or some things at least. Jacob will be not dead, I think.

I thought that Charlie would become the new Jacob for some reason.

I don't think Lost is that good

I hope we see Mr Eko again. As long as we find out what happened to Claire though.

Also I move that the last post be stricken from the record.

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

Because you were up for the past four nights doing meth I assume.

Because Jack's Dad was a proxy for EviLocke.

Originally Posted by MalReynolds

Because Jack's Dad was a proxy for EviLocke.

Not sure I see that through line...

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=30760989001

Okay, if EviLocke can use bodies, like Locke's and Christian's, why would Jacob not also be able to use bodies, like Charlie's or Boone's?

Because nothing so far has hinted that he can. Nothing has hinted that they have the same powers either.

He projected himself as Jacob in the past, but in the present/future it might better serve to project himself as someone that the Losties had a relationship to. Would EviLocke have gotten the same reception if he had just shown up as his natural self, or his straight corporeal form from the beginning of the episode?

I'm most likely wrong, though.

No, but that was a well established power of Esau's (or the smoke-monster, something which is clearly in the control of Esau, if he isn't the smoke-monster itself), whereas Jacob has never been shown to have any such ability. And Esau never ever directly claimed to be Jacob. All he did was not deny being Jacob. A lie of omission is not strictly a lie.

Like I said, I'm probably wrong, but I just chalked them up to having similar abilities, on Esau is a bit of a prick, and Jacob isn't looking to murder Esau.

My prediction is that Jacob stole Esau's 'rightful place' as leader/controller of the island or whatever and that's why Esau wishes to murder him.

That's why I say EviLocke.

I like Esau, personally, but only because it's cute. Anyway, nobody else seems to like it, so I don't use it.

I would say it's likely that Jacob has similarish powers in terms of body using. With Jacob killed by Ben, maybe he'll take a new body, or maybe Jughead will undo the killing altogether. One theory is that, since Jack was beaned in the head by the toolbox after the Incident began (and this had seemingly no effect on the plot), that impact actually killed him, and his body will now be used by Jacob, and Jacob-in-Jack's-body will, in the last season, square off with Badguy-in-Locke's-body, playing out the Jack/Locke rivalry that's been going since the first season.

I'm not convinced, but I kinda like it. I do want to see that rivalry come to a very big head, and I do think something is going to come out of the fact that Jack got knocked out by a flying toolbox and it didn't affect the plot at all.

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

While interesting, it demolishes the point of the characters. Like I wasted the past 5 seasons learning about a character that is just meant to serve another character's master plan.

It's fitting for Locke because he was used all his life, but it doesn't fit for Jack and it's a cheap way out for it to serve both their destiny's.

Widmore did say there was a war coming, but it puts the characters we've invested the past seasons in into the back seat.

Unless there's some kind of way around it. I mean, Christian's identity seems to be relevant even while he, or his body, is acting as some kind of proxy for (I assume) Jacob's enemy.

Not to mention, Gwahir, that the Locke-Jack rivalry is rooted in "man of faith vs man of science."

That ending would completely undermine Jack's character, much less cheapen the fact that they existed for the past 5 seasons merely to become puppets. Jack has to win with science, or at least consciously accept faith to defeat Locke. So far, it's taken alcoholism and depression and suicide attempts to get him to abandon science, so it's hardly free will.

Also, has there been some sort of proof somewhere linking dead-Christian to EviLocke? That whole mechanic (leaving the island, not leaving the island, stealing bodies, whatever) seems to be just barely fleshed out.