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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Richard is ageless.
    explain how you are so confident

    explain it now

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    also who else got the idea that jacob was a kid based on how ben talked to him

    wouldn't that be weird as fuck if it were like baby richard

    god lost is such a fucking massive crack rock

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    Sole, Jacob is not Richard... why would he need Christian Shepard to speak on his behalf or further.

    Richard is sort of the 2nd in command he's considered the advisor to whoever is in charge.

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    let me believe what i want

    you don't write for lost you stop treading on my schemes and dreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    also who else got the idea that jacob was a kid based on how ben talked to him
    oh wow weird thought

    what bit made you think that?

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    Okay, remember when we first meet Jacob? The way Ben talks to him, my first thought was that he might be a child. He's almost condescending, but still fearful - it reminded me of the way people talked to that mind-bendy kid in the Twilight Zone movie.

    Of course, there is that brief, shadowy flash (presumably from Locke's POV) that makes Jacob look like a grown up man, and I don't really think Jacob is Richard, but I am still really interested in who the fuck Jacob is and who the fuck Richard is, and it seems like they've abandoned the former and totally decided to string us along for the latter.

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    I understand that everyone believes that certain loose ends will not be met, but trust me, Jacob will be answered. Richard will probably now be answered. Certain answers simply cannot be avoided.

    Remember when Richard came to young Locke and asked him which item was his?

    Well, we now know that at least 1 of those items was the compass.

    My theory, with all the island flashes we are probably going to meet Jacob.

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    I bet Jacob has horrible hygiene and that's why he lives in that cabin all alone in the shadows of our heroes' subconscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    explain how you are so confident

    explain it now
    What I mean to say is that he doesn't seem to age. We meet him when he first meets been, when he first meets locke, when we meet him on the island, and he looks the same in all cases.

    Ben also asks him if he remembers birthdays? in the season 3 episode, The Man Behind the Curtain.


    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    I bet Jacob has horrible hygiene and that's why he lives in that cabin all alone in the shadows of our heroes' subconscious.
    Seriously, when he said "help me" to Locke, all he wanted help with was brushing his teeth.



    I also find it interesting that the cabin was originally built by Horace Goodspeed for him and his wife, yet it is now inhabited Jacob.

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    i think jacob's corporeal form was damaged such that he is dead-but-not-dead (somehow, some connection to the island is keeping his consciousness around) and that is why hurley can see him.

    i also think jacob is VERY MUCH connected to smokey. they MAY be identical, or smokey may be an extension of jacob or something.

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    Also does anyone get the impression that Locke only ever had that original vision of the heroin-plane because he was time traveling and saw it crash when it actually happened?

    If that's the case, do you think we'll also see Locke stumble upon that mass grave except when it's not filled with dead people yet?

    I AM SO INTRIGUED I CANNOT WAIT A WHOLE WEEK BETWEEN EPISODES AGH

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    What I mean to say is that he doesn't seem to age. We meet him when he first meets been, when he first meets locke, when we meet him on the island, and he looks the same in all cases.

    Ben also asks him if he remembers birthdays? in the season 3 episode, The Man Behind the Curtain.
    yeah but i think it's more likely he's a time traveller. he ages, but to the regular person moving regularly through time he seems ageless because he's all over the place. the birthdays comment is interesting, but i mean why would someone who moves through time that often have any use for dates (and therefore birthdays)?

    it interests me how he knows he won't recognise locke next time they meet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    Also does anyone get the impression that Locke only ever had that original vision of the heroin-plane because he was time traveling and saw it crash when it actually happened?
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    What if, perhaps, Jacob was a victim of the time shifts of the island and essentially became part of the island in which he is in a constant state of past, present, and future.. thus requiring Jacob to use surrogates such as Christian Shepard.

    Also may give a reason as to why we see him for an instant in the Cabin (as he is in our time for just an instant), has enough time to ask John for help and then time shifts again.

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    As a sidenote I was really hoping the ghost of Ana-Lucia would get run over by a truck.

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    Hmm I don't know. That seems a little far-fetched.

    I mean, I know, I know. But by "far-fetched" I mean unspecific and illogical. Victim of time shifts? It's so... unsatisfying. It's not concrete, like "I was blowing shit up near exotic particles and due to the somethingorother of the Island I became bound to it".

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    As a sidenote I was really hoping the ghost of Ana-Lucia would get run over by a truck.
    "Libby says hi" made me laugh out loud during an episode in which I was otherwise utterly silent with awe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    Hmm I don't know. That seems a little far-fetched.

    I mean, I know, I know. But by "far-fetched" I mean unspecific and illogical. Victim of time shifts? It's so... unsatisfying. It's not concrete, like "I was blowing shit up near exotic particles and due to the somethingorother of the Island I became bound to it".
    There have been people who have been permanently un-stuck in time. Minkowski and potentially Charlotte to name a couple.

    It's also an interesting question as to why the cabin can move especially since I was under the assumption that the ring of ash was sort of a prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    There have been people who have been permanently un-stuck in time. Minkowski and potentially Charlotte to name a couple.
    I guess, but Minkowski just died. And it was just his consciousness, anyway, not his body.

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    Yes, well, it is just a theory.

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    Also, it doesn't seem like time-travel is really all that easy. The Orchid seemed to be subject to that one room and it seems like the island's shifts are purely random. So choosing to go back into a certain location at a certain time may prove difficult. It's doesn't seem to be the same as going 88 in a De'Lorean

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    Also, who the fuck were those English guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    There have been people who have been permanently un-stuck in time. Minkowski and potentially Charlotte to name a couple.

    It's also an interesting question as to why the cabin can move especially since I was under the assumption that the ring of ash was sort of a prison.
    Hey, did the ring of ash travel with cabin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    Also, who the fuck were those English guys?
    The original hostiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    Hey, did the ring of ash travel with cabin?
    I don't think so. In Cabin Fever Locke went to the cabin but it wasn't there but the ash was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    Also, who the fuck were those English guys?
    Perhaps they were from The Black Rock ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaiTengu View Post
    Perhaps they were from The Black Rock ?
    I dunno, that ship was really old and those soldiers didn't look like they were from quite the right era. But maybe that's just because I imagined Captain Jack Sparrow to be the Black Rock's dashing captain.

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    I was just checking the LOST wiki. It says the Black Rock crashed in 1881.

    This of course begs the questions:

    1. What was a slaving ship full of slaves doing in the Pacific?
    2. Where was it going? That was at least 15 years after the US Civil War ended.

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    It crashed in 1881. That doesn't mean it set sail in 1881.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaiTengu View Post
    2. Where was it going? That was at least 15 years after the US Civil War ended.
    The US wasn't the only country that imported slaves.

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    I've read theories in which the Black Rock, captained by Magnus Hanso, sought to pillage the island of all its resources. As in, the slave ship sought the island hoping to use the slaves to harvest the magnetic exotic matter believed to be held there.

    Just a theory. As to why it ended up there, perhaps, in the island's time shifts...

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    Ana-Lucia looks good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mang View Post
    Ana-Lucia looks good.
    She looks good dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    She looks good dead.
    reowr

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    The US wasn't the only country that imported slaves.
    The slave importing business crumbled massively between 1850 & 1860. Cuba was the last western country to abolish slavery in 1888. If the englishmen really were from The Black Rock, they certainly faced very stiff penalties from Great Britan were they ever caught.

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    It may not have been slavers but, as some believe, part of the convict fleet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mang View Post
    Ana-Lucia looks good.
    It was the first time I thought Michelle Rodriguez was hot.

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    You think you've had a bad day? Try being Frogurt:


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    Was it obvious to everyone that that guy was about to die? Not only had we never seen this amazingly annoying guy before, but the way he was framed during his final speech suggestedd imminent death to me.

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    We've seen him once before, between Season 3 and 4, but I find it interesting he only made an appearance in season 5.

    So it wasn't a complete Nikki and Paulo moment, and according to the writers/producers, many of the no-name characters died in that attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    We've seen him once before, between Season 3 and 4, but I find it interesting he only made an appearance in season 5.

    So it wasn't a complete Nikki and Paulo moment, and according to the writers/producers, many of the no-name characters died in that attack.
    When you say "seen him" do you mean that actor has actually appeared? Cos I definitely remember the "guy who sells frozen yoghurt" character being mentioned by the main characters many times.

    Don't remember the actor appearing before now though.

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