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    Well I mean, Christian Shepard even says that the time the characters spent on the island was the most important time in their lives.

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    By the way, I enjoyed the finale, too, Mal.

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    too much musical montage and not enough island scenes

    jack should have been the island's protector, not fucking fat fuck "dude" comic-relief hurley

    I want to know more about jacob, and more about what jack should have done as his successor


    I don't want 11 minutes of smiles and string quartets, I want interesting content and answers about the features of Lost that made me love it so much



    man fuck this shit

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    I acutally more or less agree with you on this. I'm much more of an athlete then an intellectual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    walt
    hm?
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vader View Post
    I acutally more or less agree with you on this. I'm much more of an athlete then an intellectual.

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    FUCK
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Vader View Post
    I acutally more or less agree with you on this. I'm much more of an athlete then an intellectual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mang View Post
    hm?
    The internet has been known to be wrong from time to time.

    Regardless, I loved it. Everyone I was with was like "THEY ANSWERED NOTHING." To be honest, I didn't need any more answers. I loved watching everyone interact... watching the characters interact.

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    fuck lost

    fuck anyone who is okay with such a bullshit ending

    fuck you kate

    and a special fuck you to everyone who made me start watching this horse shit three years ago

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    3-4 years ago a question was posed to Damon and Carlton was something like "Are the characters all dead and the island some kind of afterlife?"

    "No!" they emphatically stated.

    Fuck you guys.

    Although the alternate endings were 100% pure awesome. Anyone who thought they'd be REAL ACTUAL alternate endings on JIMMY KIMMEL is a fucking retard.

    Regardless, I'm really kind of let down by the "ending." The final scene, however, was perfect. The episode was good, and the character interaction was fucking amazing.

    I dunno, Maybe my tiny brain still hasn't wrapped itself around exactly what happened. maybe I should watch it again, or maybe I should go online to read half-baked theories about it. I'm still a little confused, I guess.

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    Mal, Christian tells Jack in the last scene that the time on the island was the most important time in their lives. Sure, it was a major part of their lives and a lot of them died for it and whatnot, which is perfectly fine.

    The problem is that, aside from its beautiful tropical location, the island didn't have to be an island at all. It could have been a box of baseball cards or a bag of marbles or a magical staff or a lucky slot machine at an indian casino. By never giving even the slightest hint as to the purpose of the island (and in fact, negating the closest thing to a hint they gave--the stopgap), they successfully made the island a macguffin. We were just supposed to take for granted that the death and/or survival of the island was high stakes; it's one thing for the characters to be wrong about their understanding (the Man in Black/Jack when Desmond went into the cave), but that's just a crock of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaiTengu View Post
    3-4 years ago a question was posed to Damon and Carlton was something like "Are the characters all dead and the island some kind of afterlife?"

    "No!" they emphatically stated.

    Fuck you guys.

    Although the alternate endings were 100% pure awesome. Anyone who thought they'd be REAL ACTUAL alternate endings on JIMMY KIMMEL is a fucking retard.

    Regardless, I'm really kind of let down by the "ending." The final scene, however, was perfect. The episode was good, and the character interaction was fucking amazing.

    I dunno, Maybe my tiny brain still hasn't wrapped itself around exactly what happened. maybe I should watch it again, or maybe I should go online to read half-baked theories about it. I'm still a little confused, I guess.
    Here's my interpretation:

    Locke and Jack used Desmond to uncork the Island, so to speak, and it started to sink. But in doing so, it made Locke and Jack both mortal. Thus, they engaged in Mortal Kombat, with both men victorious, but Jack more victorious.

    Anyways, the flash-sideways was everyone dead. Not necessarily dead on the island, and not necessarily dead in the 10, 20 or 30 years after Jack's death. It was a timeless place where they all gathered after they died so that they could remember their deaths and pass on. It's implied that Hurly and Ben ran the Island for many many years after Jack's death. When Jack remembered his death, it completed his group, and everyone moved on together.

    So no - not everyone died in the initial 815 crash. People that think that are completley fucking bonkers and grasping at straws. The purgatory angle has not persisted through the entire show, just this last season, and I thought it was great.

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    frankly I am glad I opted out of serious investment

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    I get and understand most of what happened, and the character interations were great and they let us know what happened with most characters(micheal now roams the island whispering). And I liked most of the characters at the end. But I hoped they would atleast explain the damn island. And Jack became nothing like Jocob, immortal or people he touches live forever or anything. I think it's clear that the writers didn't attempt to explain anything, maybe because they didn't know?

    They said this was the ending they planned from the beginning, well thats fine but they also said no questions would be left at the end. I dont know the whole final season was very slow paced and didn't explain "much". Not trying to bitch or say this episode ruined my life or that the other 5 seasons of Lost weren't worth it because of a shitty ending (they were totally worth it), but I mean come on..... They scraped the explanations for everything about the island, to bring closure to what happened to the characters. Anyone that says "just because they didn't answer every fucking question" should just stfu right now because ALOT of shit was unexplained.
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    They (specifically Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof) never actually said everything would be explained, in fact, they often stated the opposite. So, not sure what you mean there.

    Atmosfear, the writers gave the Man In Black a name. Samuel. They even wrote it into the script but left it out as they felt it was unnecessary to explain. They also heard you complaining and really enjoyed it.

    I like that the bomb never really changed things. And it was the island timeline that truly mattered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidSnake View Post
    And Jack became nothing like Jocob, immortal or people he touches live forever or anything. I think it's clear that the writers didn't attempt to explain anything, maybe because they didn't know?
    I'm pretty sure he did, but it only lasted a short time because when Desmond removed the stone both Jack and MiB became vulnerable again.

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    my gripe isn't with a lack of explanation of the magic light, I agree that science fiction is science fiction and that should be enough for fans

    but something as real and literal as the statue being built is something we should see, not only was it a mystery from season 1 that is just never explored, but it's a wasted opportunity. It would have made for great scenes, seeing the construction and the life they lead, how it ended (further support to "they come, they fight, they corrupt, it always ends the same"). It would have made for great writing and great tv, but the opportunity was wasted.

    Personally i'm bitter because I didn't want jack to die, I wanted to know that the island would continue with him at peace with the island, continuing his life out... bringing more people to replace him and the cycle carrying on. That's just me, I know a lot of people wanted an absolute ending... so I see where fans have been divided.

    And because of my interest in jack and hopes for his island future, I was severely disappointed that they wasted so long with slow motion smiles and musical montages, and the cost was we saw nothing of the island's future life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalReynolds View Post
    Here's my interpretation:

    Locke and Jack used Desmond to uncork the Island, so to speak, and it started to sink. But in doing so, it made Locke and Jack both mortal. Thus, they engaged in Mortal Kombat, with both men victorious, but Jack more victorious.

    Anyways, the flash-sideways was everyone dead. Not necessarily dead on the island, and not necessarily dead in the 10, 20 or 30 years after Jack's death. It was a timeless place where they all gathered after they died so that they could remember their deaths and pass on. It's implied that Hurly and Ben ran the Island for many many years after Jack's death. When Jack remembered his death, it completed his group, and everyone moved on together.

    So no - not everyone died in the initial 815 crash. People that think that are completley fucking bonkers and grasping at straws. The purgatory angle has not persisted through the entire show, just this last season, and I thought it was great.
    That actually makes sense. However in that aspect I don't really feel the story was truly "over" because now I want to see the story of Hurley and Ben. and how they lived on the island, and how they died.

    I guess if you take the angle that this was all Jack's story that began with him opening his eyes and ended with him closing them, that's fine, but we became invested in the rest of the characters, and to not know, it's a bit of a letdown.

    I guess it was just the expectations from listening to podcasts, reading stuff on the interwebs that put me in this position. I was told "this is the definitive end of Lost and it will bring closure to our story." However I really don't feel that way.

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    If you guys didn't like the ending or still think there are unanswered plot holes than you just need to get a bigger brain, it all makes perfect sense to me

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    i... liked it.

    it was not 100%, but i liked it.

    i think atmosfear has an unsettling point about the island really being sort of good-for-nothing. i mean, jacob said that the guys "needed" the island: i would have liked to see a little more about why. season six should have spent some time -- even subtly -- on why the island was so important, and what good it did. we know why darma was interested in it, and we know that jacob liked it and locke liked it and it had special electromagnetism under it. okay. but... why was it worth saving, really?

    i am also a tad unsatisfied with the good vs. evil theme and how it played out. i would have liked to be a little more convinced that smokey would be a truly terrible force even once he'd gotten his freedom.

    overall... 75%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    but... why was it worth saving, really?
    I got the impression the destruction of the island was only the beginning and the rest of the world was up next, hence the whole "push the button to save the world" thing and a few of the things jacob said

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    I didn't really need, nor want to know why the Island was so special. If they explained it, it would have lost any kind of mystery. It's a show that is largely about faith anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    In the end though, it will most likely be Hurley.
    I want some credit for this. I motherfucking called it.

    The ending was for the most part really enjoyable up until the last 10 or 15 mintes where it turned to utter bullshit. As soon as Christian Shepherd appeared I knew it was done for and, what do you know, I was right.

    Also, too often it felt like I was watching a clip-show with all the strings-over-flashbacks sequences. I understand they were important scenes but they could have been a little less cliche. As could several shitty lines of dialogue.

    A big finale to a series like LOST should leave you feeling like you've watched a television masterpiece. Instead I felt like I'd been hacked around for too long by people who's big ideas weren't as substantial as they clearly thought they were.

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    I'm sorry you feel that way.

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    you know, togs, it's not really your job to apologise

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    No, but it's his destiny.

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    Keep in mind the letdown you're feeling could just be the fact that it's over. 6 epic years of epic storytelling and now you're never going to see it again.

    It could also be that your expectations were just too high, and nothing could live up to them. I think that's sort of the area I fit into right now. Maybe a little of A, but mostly of B.

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    island desmond never did cross over into afterlife reality, did he. so were we given a reason why he was so calm and happy when evilocke was walking him through the jungle to his probable death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwahir View Post
    island desmond never did cross over into afterlife reality, did he. so were we given a reason why he was so calm and happy when evilocke was walking him through the jungle to his probable death?
    Wasn't Desmond under the impression that he was going to afterlife reality?

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    I was under the impression that Desmond, when hit with mega high fuckloads of the EMR, temporarily died, saw the afterlife, and knew that he would go there when he was finished with the island. He expected to go there when the plug was removed, but I think he assumed it was some kind of future.

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    I don't get it
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    I acutally more or less agree with you on this. I'm much more of an athlete then an intellectual.

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    I think it's something about Jersey Shore

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