Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
No one needs to take any supplements in order to get in shape.

Protein powder, creatine, whatever else are all just a big racket. Unless you are a top tier pro-athlete, you don't need any more protein than what you get out of food.

All-natural peanut butter and the like can be your "protein supplement."

Special vitamins or whatever won't do shit for you.

Still... I'll probably take vitamins anyway. I keep forgetting to take one in the morning...
You also don't need a gastric bypass to lose weight but people get them (I just read a reddit post about a girl who got a gastric bypass in her early twenties, average height and 235 lbs. and I about died of shock). Having used both protein powders (meal replacement, with vegetables and limited fruit rounding out the meal) and creatine-containing suppliments (no-xplode, superpump 250), I hate not using them. I can get ~double the results with an equivalent amount of effort, and (afaik) I'm not doing any damage to my body. The fat-loss stuff is a racket, simply because most of those products are of the type "hey take this and sit on your ass and you'll lose weight", whereas creatine and other suppliments are designed to be used with actual activity, no one tells you you'll bulk up with protein powder and creatine alone, you have to lift. Plus, the market for weight-loss solutions is absurd, if we were a nation of weak skinny fucks wanting to get ripped the muscle-gain supplement market would probably be just as bad as the weight loss industry is now (except the women would still all be stupid and think that lifting three times a week will turn them into a testosterone-injected body builder and run away).