Thread: Whats's your guys input on daily vitamins?

Originally Posted by Mr. E

Sycld I respectfully disagree with your analysis. While you don't need those things to get into shape, they help. Source: Best friend is a personal trainer and I lost 200 pounds.

Also, no one gets all of every vitamin they need from their everyday diet. It's true that you don't absorb anywhere near all of the nutrients in vitamin supplements, that's why each pill has like 2000% of our daily value of everything.

Just because someone is a personal trainer doesn't make them an expert about human nutrition.

Also, what supplements are you referring to? Specifically I was talking about muscle-building stuff, nothing about weight loss.

Originally Posted by sponge

You also don't need a gastric bypass to lose weight but people get them (I just read a reddit post about a girl who got a gastric bypass in her early twenties, average height and 235 lbs. and I about died of shock). Having used both protein powders (meal replacement, with vegetables and limited fruit rounding out the meal) and creatine-containing suppliments (no-xplode, superpump 250), I hate not using them. I can get ~double the results with an equivalent amount of effort, and (afaik) I'm not doing any damage to my body. The fat-loss stuff is a racket, simply because most of those products are of the type "hey take this and sit on your ass and you'll lose weight", whereas creatine and other suppliments are designed to be used with actual activity, no one tells you you'll bulk up with protein powder and creatine alone, you have to lift. Plus, the market for weight-loss solutions is absurd, if we were a nation of weak skinny fucks wanting to get ripped the muscle-gain supplement market would probably be just as bad as the weight loss industry is now (except the women would still all be stupid and think that lifting three times a week will turn them into a testosterone-injected body builder and run away).

How do you know you couldn't get the same results if you had a high protein meal instead of a protein powder shake meal substitute?

Taking protein powders gives you more protein than you could possibly need.

As for creatine... I take back what I said: it looks like it does have some benefit, with the literature showing little risk of adverse side effects for people without specific conditions such as diabetes. However, the one thing that's a little unnerving about creatine supplements is that they are unregulated.

And it's men's fault for making women think that way, perhaps?

Originally Posted by sycld

How do you know you couldn't get the same results if you had a high protein meal instead of a protein powder shake meal substitute?

Protein powders don't come with the same high levels of fats, sodium and cholesterols as traditional high protein diets do. I haven't really compared the two though, and it wasn't a meal replacement, I was still eating fruits and vegetables at meals with reduced meat and carbs.

Taking protein powders gives you more protein than you could possibly need.

So? I wasn't gaining body fat and I was gaining muscle, I don't see the problem.

As for creatine... I take back what I said: it looks like it does have some benefit, with the literature showing little risk of adverse side effects for people without specific conditions such as diabetes. However, the one thing that's a little unnerving about creatine supplements is that they are unregulated.

So are the multivitamins you can buy at walmart. I have heard of supplements with anabolics passing under FDA watch for years.

And it's men's fault for making women think that way, perhaps?

Doubt it. I can imagine perhaps 50% of the eating disorders are the fault of men (other half being the ferocious critique of young women among themselves), but I don't hear men telling women they shouldn't look toned, and that if they work out, they'll become disgustingly muscular. Our school's D1 women's basketball team has probably the most athletic women on campus, as does the cheer squad. Neither group has disgustingly-muscled women, and I know the cheer squad lifts a ton, and I'm sure the wbb team does the same. The myth that regular weight training will turn one into a body building competitor is a joke.

Originally Posted by sycld

Just because someone is a personal trainer doesn't make them an expert about human nutrition.

Also, what supplements are you referring to? Specifically I was talking about muscle-building stuff, nothing about weight loss.

I was talking about creatine and vitamin supplements. Also, I don't know how much you know about the ACSM certification exam, but to pass it you do need to be an expert on human nutrition.