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11-14-2008, 07:58 PM
Atmosfear

Except that Fallout's universe is based on the 20th century adoption of portable fusion power which rendered the transistor unnecessary (and thereby non-existent.)
11-14-2008, 09:08 PM
hedgerow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Small Arms is the best early in the game, energy is the best late in the game. Fortunately, if you aren't retarded with your SPECIAL, perks, and skills, there is plenty of time to max them both, along with lockpick, sneak, science, and repair. The rest of the skills suck.

Those are the exact ones I went for, so I'm gonna back you up on that. Although I also put a few points on speech because it comes in handy with some of the more whiney characters.

Anyone wanting to avoid learning about some of the unique weapons should probably stop reading now. I'd put it in a spoiler, but it's such a small thing. Shitface, Ol' Painless is probably my favourite small arm, although you'll also find the Xuanlong Assault Rifle, the Victory Rifle, Lincoln's Repeater and various others if you look around a little bit. Most are just the same model as their non-unique counterpart, but with improved stats.
11-14-2008, 09:41 PM
ShitFace

Oh thats a bit of a let down.
I was expecting some awesome looking guns, not the same ones with better stats.
11-15-2008, 12:43 AM
Atmosfear

Unique Chinese Assault Rifle and others

It's pretty tits. 36 round clip, 55 damage (full rep, 100% small arms)

The unique Plasma Rifle isn't bad; I don't have enough Energy Weapons yet to really use it for more than shits and giggles. I believe its stats are better than the Alien Blaster, but obviously inferior to the Firelance (what isn't?) Unfortunately, getting Firelance is a random event so Christ only knows if I'll get it before giving up.

The Ranger Combat Armor is, I believe, the best armor in the game if you intend to sneak at all. I've got power armor, as well, that I can switch into mid-combat. Ranger Combat Armor is a pretty long sidequest that nets a lot of good rewards. +5 AP, +1 LK, +10 Small Arms and 24 DR is where it's at if you are sneak sneak sneakin on Heaven's door.

I'm gonna track down the Victory Rifle next but what I really need most is a good source of ammo for it.
11-15-2008, 11:43 AM
Atmosfear

I have been listening to Enclave Radio because every once in a while they play Dixie
11-15-2008, 03:20 PM
ollie cromwell

My first runthrough was good/small arms/sneak/lockpick/science/repair.

My second (current) runthrough is evil/unarmed/big guns/repair.

I cleaned out Megaton before I set the nuke off. Everyone gets a ride on the Fisto! train. If I don't sell them to the slavers first. Anyone have any idea what the slaver who runs the shop will give you if you help him with his rifle problem?
11-15-2008, 03:55 PM
TikiGod

On topic somewhat...

just dropping by the thread to say that this game has me.

Words cannot describe.
11-15-2008, 08:07 PM
magking1971

Quote:

Originally Posted by TikiGod

On topic somewhat...

just dropping by the thread to say that this game has me.

Words cannot describe.

You have seen the light of the atom!
11-15-2008, 11:07 PM
BLMWolby

Dear god i <3 Fallout 3 with a passion. Some people think that its too hard, and it tends to glitch out sometimes. I had someone over to play it and in the very beginning the door woulden't open so the dad could give you the bible lesson after choosing your stats. To be honest thats what she gets for naming her character Pete...

My main guy is a Charm/Small Guns user who is a kleptomaniac saint <,<
11-16-2008, 03:49 PM
Nevrmore

I fucking loved A3-21's Plasma Rifle. Not only will it save ammo by taking almost anything out in three hits or less, but by the endgame you will be finding so much ammunition with it you won't know what to do with it all. I had 60 shots with it, by the time I got to the last story-related mission I had over 300.
11-16-2008, 04:45 PM
Atmosfear

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLMWolby

Dear god i <3 Fallout 3 with a passion. Some people think that its too hard, and it tends to glitch out sometimes. I had someone over to play it and in the very beginning the door woulden't open so the dad could give you the bible lesson after choosing your stats. To be honest thats what she gets for naming her character Pete...

My main guy is a Charm/Small Guns user who is a kleptomaniac saint <,<

I'm pretty sure no one in the entire world has ever called Fallout 3 too hard, even on max difficulty this is babby's first fallout.
11-17-2008, 12:26 AM
BLMWolby

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Originally Posted by Atmosfear

I'm pretty sure no one in the entire world has ever called Fallout 3 too hard, even on max difficulty this is babby's first fallout.

Ehh, to be honest, my friend that said it is "Too Hard" is horribly retarded at managing resources. "Omg i'll use this stim pack when i have 2 health missing, its ok i wont need it later..." Etc etc.
11-17-2008, 02:56 AM
Atmosfear

I'm pretty sure if I used a stimpack every time I had two health missing and used guns against every enemy I would still have more health and ammo available to me than I would ever need.

You have to be legitimately bad at video games to think Fallout 3 is at all difficult. I'm assuming if those are major concerns for this person, he didn't try the game on max difficulty, nor did he continue it long enough that the level cap had an effect.
11-17-2008, 08:55 AM
magking1971

My now favorite thing in the game so far is let the ghouls into tenpenny tower and let them kill everyone and then go in and loot everything, 70 stim packs and a whole mess of caps later I am ready for anything.
11-17-2008, 08:07 PM
raghead

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Originally Posted by Nevrmore

The end of the game

Lyons: "Okay, guy, one of us is totally going to have to make a heroic sacrifice and rush into this room being bombarded by lethal amounts of radiation to fix this water purifier."

Me: "What about Fawkes, the companion I just made not 20 minutes ago? He specifically stated that he was immune to radiation poisoning. He can go in and enter the code to turn on the purifier."

Fawkes: "No, I don't think so."

Me: "You don't think so? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?"

Fawkes: "This is your destiny, I won't interfere."

Me: "...What the fuck? You traveled across the country to save me from probable death by the Enclave, expending God knows how much time and energy, but now you won't save me from certain death by doing something extremely, awesomely simple?"

Fawkes: "Yeah, destiny. All that."

Me: "Fuck you Fawkes and fuck you Bethesda. What the fuck, seriously?"

EXACTLY what I was thinking lol. If you have fawkes with you at that point in the game it should just say "you win" and you continue on with your business.
11-18-2008, 08:30 PM
no_brains_no_worries

So...I tagged sneaking and now seriously regret it. It kinda sucks. I mean, there are only so many times you can stick a live grenade into someone's pants before it gets old.
11-19-2008, 12:47 AM
ollie cromwell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

I'm pretty sure if I used a stimpack every time I had two health missing and used guns against every enemy I would still have more health and ammo available to me than I would ever need.

You have to be legitimately bad at video games to think Fallout 3 is at all difficult. I'm assuming if those are major concerns for this person, he didn't try the game on max difficulty, nor did he continue it long enough that the level cap had an effect.

Yeah, endgame sucks, even without an optimized character. I've optimized a lot more on this second walkthrough, and its pretty cake, even as melee-only for the first 10 levels. The game has been ridiculously easy thus far (and this is without the dart gun).

I'm hunting for the 3 rock-it launcher schematics so the fist will be a thing of the past though (except for sneaky mr. sandman critty goodness because it makes me laugh).
11-19-2008, 01:41 AM
Atmosfear

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_brains_no_worries

So...I tagged sneaking and now seriously regret it. It kinda sucks. I mean, there are only so many times you can stick a live grenade into someone's pants before it gets old.

Then start using it for the auto-crit on your first hit.

It doesn't take much to 1-shot Super Mutants and 3-4 shot Deathclaws.
11-19-2008, 04:59 AM
Vengeful Scars

Lols who doesn't play these games on super hard mode?

Oblivion was tough as shit for awhile like that, but this is still purty easy
11-20-2008, 04:26 PM
sycld

<--- guess what video game I bought yesterday

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Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars

Lols who doesn't play these games on super hard mode?

Oblivion was tough as shit for awhile like that, but this is still purty easy

For many games, especially RPGs, I agree. However... I'm not having a really easy time with Fallout 3 in normal mode...

Maybe it's because my spec sucks since I to thinly distributed my S.P.E.C.I.A.L. points and skill points way too thinly rather than specializing in a couple particular skills?
11-20-2008, 06:37 PM
sycld

Also, I walked from Farragut West to Tenelytown/Friendship Heights via the red line metro tubes... lol?...

Sole, you forgot to mention that this is an alternate history, and hence why the DC area has such a different layout to it. Only 3 metro lines and many new/different locations... the closest I can get to College Park and Hyattsville in this game is Takoma.
11-20-2008, 10:11 PM
Crysack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Unique Chinese Assault Rifle and others

It's pretty tits. 36 round clip, 55 damage (full rep, 100% small arms)

The unique Plasma Rifle isn't bad; I don't have enough Energy Weapons yet to really use it for more than shits and giggles. I believe its stats are better than the Alien Blaster, but obviously inferior to the Firelance (what isn't?) Unfortunately, getting Firelance is a random event so Christ only knows if I'll get it before giving up.

The Ranger Combat Armor is, I believe, the best armor in the game if you intend to sneak at all. I've got power armor, as well, that I can switch into mid-combat. Ranger Combat Armor is a pretty long sidequest that nets a lot of good rewards. +5 AP, +1 LK, +10 Small Arms and 24 DR is where it's at if you are sneak sneak sneakin on Heaven's door.

I'm gonna track down the Victory Rifle next but what I really need most is a good source of ammo for it.

What about the T-51b power armour?
11-21-2008, 01:11 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydro

:)

Shitface you are now my favourite person on the internet for at least a week.

KHAAAAAAN!

Man, I started playing this game yesterday and I can't stop. I just can't.
11-21-2008, 01:17 AM
sycld

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Originally Posted by captain castle

KHAAAAAAN!

Man, I started playing this game yesterday and I can't stop. I just can't.

I know, I can't either. It's like I'm not even sure if I like it that much, but it's just sucked me in...
11-21-2008, 02:18 AM
jared

Next time I have a computer that is capable of playing any sort of game I plan on purchasing this one.

I loved the original Fallout games, never really found anything else that I liked better
11-21-2008, 02:37 AM
magking1971

Welcome to the madness castle/sycld.
11-21-2008, 01:57 PM
Atmosfear

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crysack

What about the T-51b power armour?

As far as I know it hurts your sneaking.

sycld: I hardly specialized because I had a moment of idiocy and didn't realize you could lower stats. I don't have the high INT I would if I were really doing it right, but it really doesn't make a difference. Between the skill points perk, Comprehension perk, and bobbleheads it's awfully hard not to max every useful stat by 20. Depending on what skills you tagged, I would probably focus on sneak and/or your weapon skill until you get at least to 75. If you tagged science or lockpick, I would get that high enough to Mentat to the next level pretty quickly too. (Note that for science and lockpick that a rating of 51 is the same as a rating of 74--don't waste points leaving it in the intermediary. If you get 19 skill points per level and have a lockpick of 50, put 6 points in lockpick at the next level (and boost another skill) then put all 19 to get to 75 on the second level up. You'll get more utility for your points this way.

The best advice you can get for low levels is conserve ammo and beat things with a melee weapon. If you get the Shishkebab from the Deliver Lucy's Message quest as quickly as possible, you'll have more than enough damage to get you to the level and economy to use your weapon skill without worrying about ammo (unless you tagged Big Weapons which you should probably just restart.) Also, it's worth noting that melee weapons are better than unarmed weapons if neither is your specialty because STR gives a bonus to melee damage but not unarmed damage. Even if STR was your dumpstat (STR wasn't your dumpstat)
11-22-2008, 01:12 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycld

I know, I can't either. It's like I'm not even sure if I like it that much, but it's just sucked me in...

I started off as a goody two shoes

then I started eating corpses today

I'm a ne'er do'well who eats people. I sat down at the xbox today at like 3pm and got off to go to work at 10pm. I have the next two days off and I'm so excited.
11-22-2008, 02:51 AM
sycld

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

sycld: I hardly specialized because I had a moment of idiocy and didn't realize you could lower stats. I don't have the high INT I would if I were really doing it right, but it really doesn't make a difference. Between the skill points perk, Comprehension perk, and bobbleheads it's awfully hard not to max every useful stat by 20. Depending on what skills you tagged, I would probably focus on sneak and/or your weapon skill until you get at least to 75. If you tagged science or lockpick, I would get that high enough to Mentat to the next level pretty quickly too. (Note that for science and lockpick that a rating of 51 is the same as a rating of 74--don't waste points leaving it in the intermediary. If you get 19 skill points per level and have a lockpick of 50, put 6 points in lockpick at the next level (and boost another skill) then put all 19 to get to 75 on the second level up. You'll get more utility for your points this way.

The best advice you can get for low levels is conserve ammo and beat things with a melee weapon. If you get the Shishkebab from the Deliver Lucy's Message quest as quickly as possible, you'll have more than enough damage to get you to the level and economy to use your weapon skill without worrying about ammo (unless you tagged Big Weapons which you should probably just restart.) Also, it's worth noting that melee weapons are better than unarmed weapons if neither is your specialty because STR gives a bonus to melee damage but not unarmed damage. Even if STR was your dumpstat (STR wasn't your dumpstat)

Well... crap.

Thanks for the advice. Makes sense, and from the level requirements I've been seeing in the game, I just realized that there are thresholds for each skill like this. I'll keep it in mind from now on.

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Originally Posted by Captain Castle

I started off as a goody two shoes

then I started eating corpses today

I'm a ne'er do'well who eats people. I sat down at the xbox today at like 3pm and got off to go to work at 10pm. I have the next two days off and I'm so excited.

I'm playing it as a total pussy.

I'm a "Very Good" Peacekeeper. My icon looks like Jesus, and a woman in Megaton came out from no where to give me a Stimpack, saying that there should be more people like me in the world.

I get the feeling that my rewards for being a bad ass would be more than a crappy free Stimpack.
11-22-2008, 05:16 AM
hedgerow

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycld

I'm a "Very Good" Peacekeeper. My icon looks like Jesus, and a woman in Megaton came out from no where to give me a Stimpack, saying that there should be more people like me in the world.

She won't stop. She just won't fucking stop. She relentlessly appears and runs toward you giving you a never ending supply of useless crap like dirty water. I'm pretty sure it's just a test bethesda came up with to see how just how good people were willing to be.

I killed her via the console. It was the right thing to do.
11-22-2008, 07:03 AM
sycld

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydro

She won't stop. She just won't fucking stop. She relentlessly appears and runs toward you giving you a never ending supply of useless crap like dirty water. I'm pretty sure it's just a test bethesda came up with to see how just how good people were willing to be.

I killed her via the console. It was the right thing to do.

If the 2nd or 3rd nicest guy on CD suggests that the correct course of action is to kill someone, it must be true.
11-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Atmosfear

The rewards of being evil are as follows:

1. Miss the canon resolution when returning to Vault 101

what happens

The canon result occurs by negotiating to allow the Vault to open, Amata becomes Overseer, and then uses the quote from Fallout 1: "You're a hero... but you have to leave." This is unattainable if you killed the Overseer when you were leaving (which is the evil thing to do)

2. House in Tenpenny, which has access to better ammo supplies than Moira. Unfortunately, you can't kill Alister Tenpenny without gaining good karma.

3. If you can click it, you can take it. If anyone bitches, kill them.

4. Kill that LARPing vampire faggot, take his shishkebob and all the rest of his shit. If you play it right, you can get all the perks of the quest (including some good karma) and then lose all the karma back by slaughtering his gang and the entire town of Arefu. I think I leveled 2 or 3 times in the course of this quest, and I didn't even search for the hideout.

5. Tranquility Lane is a lot more fucked up if you aren't worried about the negative karma from completing the quests.

6. In the event of an emergency, kill the whole town

7. Sell Brian Wilkes to the slavers at Paradise Falls. Fuck that, sell everyone to the slavers at Paradise Falls.

The major drawback is that you can't get Fawkes and his Gatling Laser.
11-25-2008, 12:17 AM
TheOriginalGrumpySpy

Just finished the game. It was a great adventure!
11-25-2008, 02:07 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

The rewards of being evil are as follows:

1. Miss the canon resolution when returning to Vault 101

what happens

The canon result occurs by negotiating to allow the Vault to open, Amata becomes Overseer, and then uses the quote from Fallout 1: "You're a hero... but you have to leave." This is unattainable if you killed the Overseer when you were leaving (which is the evil thing to do)

2. House in Tenpenny, which has access to better ammo supplies than Moira. Unfortunately, you can't kill Alister Tenpenny without gaining good karma.

3. If you can click it, you can take it. If anyone bitches, kill them.

4. Kill that LARPing vampire faggot, take his shishkebob and all the rest of his shit. If you play it right, you can get all the perks of the quest (including some good karma) and then lose all the karma back by slaughtering his gang and the entire town of Arefu. I think I leveled 2 or 3 times in the course of this quest, and I didn't even search for the hideout.

5. Tranquility Lane is a lot more fucked up if you aren't worried about the negative karma from completing the quests.

6. In the event of an emergency, kill the whole town

7. Sell Brian Wilkes to the slavers at Paradise Falls. Fuck that, sell everyone to the slavers at Paradise Falls.

The major drawback is that you can't get Fawkes and his Gatling Laser.

Tranquility made me giggle
11-25-2008, 04:17 AM
no_brains_no_worries

So what was the level twenty perk that everyone took? First time around I grabbed explorer because I was too lazy to google locations. Now I am thinking about grabbing grim reaper's sprint. Any suggestions?
11-25-2008, 11:11 AM
ollie cromwell

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_brains_no_worries

So what was the level twenty perk that everyone took? First time around I grabbed explorer because I was too lazy to google locations. Now I am thinking about grabbing grim reaper's sprint. Any suggestions?

The only reason not to take sprint is because you took ninja -- and honestly, you probably should have picked sprint anyhow.
11-25-2008, 03:05 PM
TheOriginalGrumpySpy

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_brains_no_worries

So what was the level twenty perk that everyone took? First time around I grabbed explorer because I was too lazy to google locations. Now I am thinking about grabbing grim reaper's sprint. Any suggestions?

I actually beat the game on level 18.
11-25-2008, 03:11 PM
Nevrmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

I actually beat the game on level 18.

I beat the game at level fucking 14 because I didn't realize the last story quest when I took it.
11-25-2008, 04:24 PM
Cool Runnings

Yeah game is really easy, I would just rush the first playthrough then make another char afterwords and perfect that one.
11-25-2008, 06:35 PM
captain castle

You know you can up the difficulty, right?
11-25-2008, 07:56 PM
Cool Runnings

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain castle

You know you can up the difficulty, right?

If you up the difficulty though, you'll be lvl 20 before you even get to your dad.
11-25-2008, 10:02 PM
ollie cromwell

hopefully the DLC they announced today will up the difficulty a bit.
11-26-2008, 09:02 AM
MalReynolds

Love it when the PS3 gets shafted on DLC. Bethesda should realize by now it's not chic to hate on the PS3 as many developers got the stick out of their ass, but no Bethesda. No confirmed DLC for the PS3 for F3. Which is bullshit. Feel like I'm being punished for picking the system with virtually no failure rate.
11-26-2008, 09:36 AM
ShitFace

What is this DLC you are talking about?
11-26-2008, 09:52 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool Runnings

If you up the difficulty though, you'll be lvl 20 before you even get to your dad.

I found my dad by accident.

Totally circumvented a few quests, really pretty pissed
11-26-2008, 09:59 AM
ShitFace

lol how did you manage that?
That does suck a little.
11-26-2008, 10:10 AM
MalReynolds

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShitFace

What is this DLC you are talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiki

Operation Anchorage
Billed as a "military simulation" and available for the PC and XBOX 360 versions of the game, Operation: Anchorage traces the liberation of Anchorage, Alaska, from its Chinese Communist invaders, and will be available in January.

The Pitt
The second pack, titled The Pitt and available for the PC and XBOX 360 versions of the game, sees the player journey to the industrial raider town located in the remains of Pittsburgh, and is scheduled for release in February.

Broken Steel
Broken Steel, scheduled for release in March and available for the PC and XBOX 360 versions of the game, sees the player join the ranks of the Brotherhood of Steel and rid the Capital Wasteland of the Enclave remnants once and for all, and continues the adventure past the main quest.

PS3 gets none of this.
11-26-2008, 04:48 PM
hedgerow

To be honest I'm looking forward to the mod tools more than the actual DLC. The oh-so-wittilly named G.E.C.K. mod kit means someone may finally be able to put together an iron sights mod or throw in some of the missing items/armor from the earlier games. I may even try myself. Although I will fail.
11-26-2008, 05:30 PM
linkinkampf19

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydro

To be honest I'm looking forward to the mod tools more than the actual DLC. The oh-so-wittilly named G.E.C.K. mod kit means someone may finally be able to put together an iron sights mod or throw in some of the missing items/armor from the earlier games. I may even try myself. Although I will fail.

I just hope that there will be a mod (user or official) that will allow the construction of more than just seven weapons. There's so much unused junk out there, and nothing to do with it. :(
11-26-2008, 08:49 PM
Nevrmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by MalReynolds

PS3 gets none of this.

Those fuckers.
11-27-2008, 12:28 AM
Atmosfear

I wish the game had joinable factions, a la morrowind. Can someone DLC this without it being forced?
11-27-2008, 01:28 AM
captain castle

I was kinda hoping I could get turned to a ghoul, but the ghoul mask is just fine. Duster, Ghoul Mask, and Sheriff's Hat.

I'm like a wild wild west spawn (or Freddy kreuger)
11-27-2008, 02:33 AM
no_brains_no_worries

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain castle

I was kinda hoping I could get turned to a ghoul, but the ghoul mask is just fine. Duster, Ghoul Mask, and Sheriff's Hat.

I'm like a wild wild west spawn (or Freddy kreuger)

Duster+Ghoul Mask+Prewar hat+ Death Claw gauntlet= Kreuger.
11-27-2008, 03:38 AM
MalReynolds

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevrmore

Those fuckers.

Sarcasm?
11-27-2008, 06:02 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_brains_no_worries

Duster+Ghoul Mask+Prewar hat+ Death Claw gauntlet= Kreuger.

I need to find a goddamn surgical brace before I can get my death claw gauntlet. I found those things in droves before, but now I can't find a single one.

Which one is the prewar hat?
11-27-2008, 06:54 AM
no_brains_no_worries

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain castle

I need to find a goddamn surgical brace before I can get my death claw gauntlet. I found those things in droves before, but now I can't find a single one.

Which one is the prewar hat?

The one that Berk wears. I thought it was fitting. I know what you mean about the medical braces too, they are all over until you find the schematics for the Death Claw. I searched the Our Lady Hope Hospital top to bottom and finally found 1 medical brace in the basement.
11-27-2008, 06:55 AM
no_brains_no_worries

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycld

Also, I walked from Farragut West to Tenelytown/Friendship Heights via the red line metro tubes... lol?...

The secret to your girlish figure? Radiated water and long, LOOOONNNNGGGG walks.
11-27-2008, 07:46 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShitFace

lol how did you manage that?
That does suck a little.

I wandered into vault 112. So now I doubt I can do followed in his footsteps, which sucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_brains_no_worries

The one that Berk wears. I thought it was fitting. I know what you mean about the medical braces too, they are all over until you find the schematics for the Death Claw. I searched the Our Lady Hope Hospital top to bottom and finally found 1 medical brace in the basement.

burke? Fuck that hat. I'm wearing the Sheriffs hat from Megaton (Nuked that bitch off the face of the earth) and Vance's Duster, from the texas chainsaw massacre family.
11-27-2008, 05:55 PM
Nevrmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by MalReynolds

Sarcasm?

No, I own a PS3.
11-27-2008, 11:00 PM
Atmosfear

I am wearing Ranger Combat Armor and a Pre-war Bonnett and Reading Glasses. Fly.
11-28-2008, 02:00 AM
captain castle

Can you use your deathclaw gauntlet with the sandman kills?

Cause that'd just be insane
11-29-2008, 05:27 PM
Nermy2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain castle

Can you use your deathclaw gauntlet with the sandman kills?

Cause that'd just be insane

The fact that you pretty much teleport when using V.A.T.S. in melee makes the deathclaw gauntlet creepy enough, especially when you sneak attack kill 3 enemies at once.
11-30-2008, 03:39 PM
Atmosfear

Hehe yeah VATS melee is broken. Really helped in Tranquility Lane.
11-30-2008, 03:40 PM
Nermy2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

Hehe yeah VATS melee is broken. Really helped in Tranquility Lane.

VATS melee = how to kill 3 deathclaws at once without flinching.
12-02-2008, 12:43 AM
captain castle

I'm making an all melee character next. I can't wait.
12-02-2008, 01:24 AM
sycld

Yeah, seriously. I think I'm just going to start over and beat the shit out of everything with nailboards, baseball bats, and sabers.
12-02-2008, 11:31 AM
Atmosfear

and shishkebabs
12-02-2008, 12:51 PM
captain castle

Power fist is the only acceptable melee weapon
12-02-2008, 02:10 PM
sycld

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain castle

Power fist is the only acceptable melee weapon

perhaps, though that is an "unarmed" weapon, not a "melee" weapon
12-02-2008, 02:20 PM
Atmosfear

1. Powerfist is unarmed, no melee
2. Powerfist sucks compared to Deathclaw because DC ignores armor
12-02-2008, 03:46 PM
Nermy2k

if you're willing to waste a perk on Lawbringer, Plunkett's Valid Points is a good unarmed weapon since it uses the lowest amount of AP in the game.
12-02-2008, 03:50 PM
sycld

imo there should be a way to beat the game by loving your enemies and turning the other cheek rather than having to kill everything

the closing cinematic would be a brutal, gorey, and grotesque public execution of your character with the hordes of humans, ghouls, and super-mutants cheering at your demise.

there will then be no resurrection.
12-02-2008, 04:00 PM
Nermy2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycld

imo there should be a way to beat the game by loving your enemies and turning the other cheek rather than having to kill everything

Yeah, that's one thing that disappointed me about Fallout 3. In the previous games you could beat the whole game without fighting a single thing by relying on speech options and stealth. It would have been nice to have that option in this game.
12-02-2008, 06:47 PM
sycld

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nermy2k

Yeah, that's one thing that disappointed me about Fallout 3. In the previous games you could beat the whole game without fighting a single thing by relying on speech options and stealth. It would have been nice to have that option in this game.

really? that's interesting.

i feel like rpgs don't round out the "rp" part enough by having more non-combat options to progressing through the game.
12-02-2008, 11:45 PM
Anonymous D

Man I think I have to get this game.

y/n?
12-03-2008, 02:20 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycld

perhaps, though that is an "unarmed" weapon, not a "melee" weapon

Touché

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

1. Powerfist is unarmed, no melee
2. Powerfist sucks compared to Deathclaw because DC ignores armor

Only if you're wearing the ghoul mask

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous D

Man I think I have to get this game.

y/n?

y
12-03-2008, 10:01 AM
ollie cromwell

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain castle

Only if you're wearing the ghoul mask

I'm playing unarmed right now. You don't need the ghoul mask for the deathclaw to negate armor.

/fucks up all kinds of brotherhoods.
12-03-2008, 10:31 AM
Atmosfear

The ghoul mask isn't really that useful I never met a ghoul I wouldn't rather see dead
12-03-2008, 11:10 AM
MalReynolds

I'm going to wait for the trophy patch before resuming play, because it's a load of ass having to erase game saves.
12-03-2008, 11:16 AM
Nermy2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

The ghoul mask isn't really that useful I never met a ghoul I wouldn't rather see dead

What about Charon?
12-03-2008, 01:50 PM
Atmosfear

I didn't meet Charon out of fear for wanting to let a ghoul live

If I had blown up megaton like i was supposed to i could've see and killed ghoul Moira :)
12-03-2008, 01:55 PM
sycld

ok so how is contributing to the church of atom who want to see the bomb blow up a "good" thing

but then actually going ahead and blowing up the bomb like they want to a "bad" thing

i mean i know, it's just that... well you know.

:confused:
12-03-2008, 01:56 PM
Atmosfear

It's the same way that negotiating to get the ghouls into tenpenny so they can kill tenpenny is a good thing but sneaking them into the basement so they can kill tenpenny is a bad thing.
12-03-2008, 02:02 PM
sycld

...or being kind to dob in order to finagle the moriarty's password out of him is a "good" thing, but then actually using the password is a "bad" thing

right, right.

i haven't gotten far enough into the game to see all these inconsistencies. i put it down for a couple weeks and am just picking it back up.
12-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Nevrmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nermy2k

What about Charon?

Charon can go fuck himself. "Oh no I don't want to go into the irradiated room" piece of shit.
12-03-2008, 04:08 PM
TheOriginalGrumpySpy

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycld

really? that's interesting.

i feel like rpgs don't round out the "rp" part enough by having more non-combat options to progressing through the game.

But you could open up special dialogue with KIDS man, KIDS!
12-03-2008, 04:41 PM
sycld

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

But you could open up special dialogue with KIDS man, KIDS!

disappointingly there were many dialogue possibilities that were not explored in this game.

ex.:

*Who do you live with?
*What's your name?
[Kid at Heart] I have a monkey in my apartment. Want to go play with him?

"I have a monkey in my apartment. Want to go play with him?"

"Sure, that sounds like fun!"

You have lost karma!
12-03-2008, 06:18 PM
Nermy2k

I still don't understand how killing the family (a group of murderous cannibals) can take you from good to very evil in one fell swoop.
12-03-2008, 06:22 PM
Atmosfear

It took me from very evil to very evil with a flaming fucking sword in one fell swoop :)
12-04-2008, 12:57 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by ollie cromwell

I'm playing unarmed right now. You don't need the ghoul mask for the deathclaw to negate armor.

/fucks up all kinds of brotherhoods.

It was more a flavor thing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

The ghoul mask isn't really that useful I never met a ghoul I wouldn't rather see dead

Oh I still kill them in droves, but I wear it too look cool

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

I didn't meet Charon out of fear for wanting to let a ghoul live

If I had blown up megaton like i was supposed to i could've see and killed ghoul Moira :)

Charon?

Also, ghoul moira?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

It's the same way that negotiating to get the ghouls into tenpenny so they can kill tenpenny is a good thing but sneaking them into the basement so they can kill tenpenny is a bad thing.

It may be evil, but god damn is it funny
12-04-2008, 01:10 AM
Atmosfear

When you blow up Megaton, Moira becomes a ghoul living in Underworld and will allow you to do all of the quests she offers as well as buy stuff.
12-04-2008, 01:22 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atmosfear

When you blow up Megaton, Moira becomes a ghoul living in Underworld and will allow you to do all of the quests she offers as well as buy stuff.

You are a liar. There is no way that's true, cause that's just funny.
12-04-2008, 01:26 AM
Nermy2k

If President John Henry Eden is still alive in 60 minutes, I blow up Megaton.
12-04-2008, 01:27 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nermy2k

If President John Henry Eden is still alive in 60 minutes, I blow up Megaton.

It's too late. I'm pretty sure 90% of the poster ITT already beat you to it
12-04-2008, 01:46 AM
Nermy2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain castle

It's too late. I'm pretty sure 90% of the poster ITT already beat you to it

(april fools, I've never blown up Megaton)
12-04-2008, 01:52 AM
captain castle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nermy2k

(april fools, I've never blown up Megaton)

Really?

It's really cool watching the bomb go off from tenpenny
12-04-2008, 10:18 AM
captain castle

So my character is the guy from doom now when you use that boost to make your punches insane.

It's awesome
12-04-2008, 10:27 AM
MalReynolds

RIP AND TEARRRRR

THESE GUYS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE FULL OF GUUUUUTSS
12-04-2008, 10:33 AM
captain castle

lol
12-11-2008, 05:58 PM
hedgerow

Bumping to inform everyone that the G.E.C.K. is now out.

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/downloads/geck.html

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