Thread: Mass Effect 2

Other than the tedious process of having to scrap / sell items after every single battle due to the tiny inventory size, I really liked mass effect's inventory system so I'm disappointed to see it go (every time I had to click on 120 corpses in DAO I would think about ME fondly)

Also the skill system looks stupid. They probably dumbed it down so that a brosef can play it when their broham is borrowing his copy of madden 2010.

On a side note, I found out tonight that the guy who used to run the card store in my hometown is now the Director of Design for bioware so I should get his e-mail and complain directly to him hehe (although he's a really nice guy so I won't be mean).

Originally Posted by Nermy2k

On a side note, I found out tonight that the guy who used to run the card store in my hometown is now the Director of Design for bioware so I should get his e-mail and complain directly to him hehe (although he's a really nice guy so I won't be mean).

Wow, that's nuts.

But yeah, it's too bad they stripped a lot of the RPG elements away. So far that's my only major complaint. I would say it's odd that Gamespot didn't mention this in their review, if it weren't for the fact that EA had undoubtedly twisted their proverbial arm to make sure the review was as glowing as possible.

Well, that and the planet scanning, which it was allowed to mention as something that might be tedious. It's sort of interesting I suppose, as something of a replacement for the Mako I guess, but eh...

Perhaps ME2 is meant to be more action oriented, that is to say, this is the part in the trilogy that lends itself better to action and combat whereas the RPG element in ME1 was necessary to set the scene. It could be a part of the overall narrative structure, rather than an improvement.

This is all speculation of course, but it is possible that this could, again, change with the next ME.

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

Perhaps ME2 is meant to be more action oriented, that is to say, this is the part in the trilogy that lends itself better to action and combat whereas the RPG element in ME1 was necessary to set the scene. It could be a part of the overall narrative structure, rather than an improvement.

This is all speculation of course, but it is possible that this could, again, change with the next ME.

i really don't feel it is. i think it was purely a gameplay decision.

Yes, because you get bonuses for importing a character also it's like $5 right now for pc.

Yes, Mass Effect 2 is significantly easier than the original. The only times I die are when I think I'm stickied to a cover spot but aren't or when I don't realize that enemies can hit me at my cover spot.

I'm on Hard right now, and I think I'm going to try Veteran. However, if it drags out fire fights because the enemies have more health, I'm just going back to Hard...

Originally Posted by sycld

Yes, Mass Effect 2 is significantly easier than the original.

I can't even

Originally Posted by Nermy2k

I can't even

what do you think i thought me1 was particularly hard?

no, i didn't. the only challenging parts were the matriarch benezia fight and the saren fight (the latter because i had to figure out when he was vulnerable to damage and the fight took forever.)

but me2 is even easier. fewer skill with shorter cooldowns, i don't have to worry about healing with medigels, etc.

and they took away all these things without replacing them with anything.


oh wait there's that new matching mini-game that shit's tough

Originally Posted by sycld

what do you think i thought me1 was particularly hard?

no, i didn't. the only challenging parts were the matriarch benezia fight and the saren fight (the latter because i had to figure out when he was vulnerable to damage and the fight took forever.)

but me2 is even easier. fewer skill with shorter cooldowns, i don't have to worry about healing with medigels, etc.

and they took away all these things without replacing them with anything.


oh wait there's that new matching mini-game that shit's tough

I meant I couldn't imagine a game easier than ME1

The only hard part for me was the Krogan Battlemaster when you had to rescue blue girl.

Originally Posted by Nermy2k

I meant I couldn't imagine a game easier than ME1

The only hard part for me was the Krogan Battlemaster when you had to rescue blue girl.

i don't remember that part, but yeah a charging krogan actually could get me nervous in ME1.

now, they don't cause me any worry thanks in part to the short cooldowns on abilities.

Also:

http://videogamesdaily.com/news/2009...pamper-gamers/

irony. so much for that. i suppose someone twisted his arm to make the game a cakewalk.

I'll admit that parts of ME1 were difficult.

Question is though, is there still planetary roving that involves hours of driving?

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

I'll admit that parts of ME1 were difficult.

Question is though, is there still planetary roving that involves hours of driving?

nope, the mako has been removed.

they instead replaced it with the tedious process of scanning planets' surfaces for platinum, iridium, palladium, and element 0, which is the stuff that gives peeps their mass effect manipulation capabilities. they're necessary for upgrades, and scanning each planet's surface slowly like a metal detector is pretty much the only way to do get them in large quantities.

ok so finally i've found a hard boss battle.

enemies come from all directions, they all have armor, and there's a mech that's shielded as well as the main boss launching missiles

Originally Posted by sycld

http://videogamesdaily.com/news/2009...pamper-gamers/

irony. so much for that. i suppose someone twisted his arm to make the game a cakewalk.

I think they did it better in Dragon Age, since that game has a pretty steep learning curve before it becomes a cakewalk. There`s a lot of different skills and finding which ones work for you while there are always an overwhelming number of enemies coming at you made it pretty fun.

Of course, once you do get the hang of it it`s about as easy as Mass Effect 1.

However I have a feeling Mass Effect 2 isn`t going to have the same level of depth since each character gets like 2.5 skills

Originally Posted by Mr. E

The powers have a little more depth than you described. I'm not far in, but once you get to the fourth level of a power you evolve it into a more specialized form. There's plenty of room for customization.

And scanning isn't bad after you get the scanner upgrade from hotty mchotterson

eh but still a specialized skill isn't an additional skill, just an upgrade to an old skill.

and yeah planetary scanning isn't quite so bad with the upgrade, but it's still somewhat tedious. also i don't think she's that hot.

and am i the only one that loves dr. chakwas? i mean funny name, british accent, complex but endearing personality...


as for difficulty, i just up'd it to "hardcore," and i have to say that in addition to that, the missions are becoming a little more difficult, so we'll see if it gets harder or not. also, another thing which makes the game more "difficult" is the fact that my team members all insist on charging blindly into the enemy and getting themselves killed before i can make them get behind cover again. the team ai sort of sucks.

okay, the game just went from easy to fucking impossible

Spoiler

there's an area where armored husks just come rushing into melee from every direction. there are so many of them that we just become overwhelmed. they run fast than us, and there is absolutely no way to take down their armor fast enough. even if we could, we couldn't biotic them or cryoshot them fast enough to keep them under control.

...oh, and did i forget to mention the scions in the middle of the arena that emit electrical bolts which instantly bring your shields down to 0?

Originally Posted by Mr. E

I dunno if that's the part I'm thinking of or if you're further than me in the story (which is possible, I've been playing thorough), but I didn't have too much trouble with it. Of course, tech shields and warp ammo help significantly.

Welp, I got past that part. But I've decided that the engineering class just sucks balls, and it's going to be hard to get through the game on hardcore with him. I'm restarting with a soldier, even after I racked up 10+ hours of play time :/

This game only has almost only 2 kinds of abilities: those that deal damage to a particular sort of defense and biotics. I mean there's also stealth and ablative armor which are the bonuses for choosing a hybrid class, but that's it. Engineers are pure burst damage dealers whose burst sucks and who are hampered by only being able to wield pistols. Maybe the specialized turret is decent, but before that it pretty much sucks and is only useful as a distraction. So far, they seem like hands down the absolute worst class.

And Miranda is totally hot. She looks exactly like her voice actress, the unbelievably smoking Yvonne Strahovsky. You're gay, so I guess you can't tell.

Yes, yes, I knew this was going to come up.

And my defense is the following:





I mean Tony Danza in his day was not a bad look guy, but as a girl... I dunno.

Originally Posted by Mr. E

They were very overpowered in ME1 though.

Uh I guess I never played any of the engineer classes, but soldier was significantly worse than adept and didn't even come close to being as overpowered as a vanguard.

Originally Posted by Knyteguy

e. My only complaint so far is that Joker, Seth Green's character, has very little involvement in the game at all.

I had no idea that that was Seth Green. In my opinion, he and Dr. Chakwas are the two characters that have enough well-roundedness to actually be somewhat compelling.

Originally Posted by Nermy2k

Uh I guess I never played any of the engineer classes, but soldier was significantly worse than adept and didn't even come close to being as overpowered as a vanguard.

The Infiltrator in ME 1 was ridiculous. What made the class so incredible was the combination of engineering abilities that shut down enemies, weapons proficiency (sniper guns were incredible with no ammo requirements, not to mention pistols were much stronger in ME 1), and Fitness for Master Immunity (i.e. near invincibility for every 20 out of 30 seconds).

Also, you basically had to have someone in the group that had Decryption and Electronics, and the Infiltrator could provide these two. It was probably the most flexible class in terms of team selection mainly because of this and your character's proficiency with a weapon besides pistols.

Yeah, it was pretty dumb that Saren's last form was so vulnerable to Lift and immune to every other biotic ability. Not nearly as dumb as him being basically a pallette swap of a normal enemy with more hp though.

ME3 is just going to be a dating sim.

Originally Posted by coqauvin

and the last fight with Saren was a bit of a joke (I went renegade if that means anything... i heard the fights were different depending on which you went with) because i could just force push or lift him into immobility and blast the shit out of him.

really? i went with paragon, and it's not that the fight was hard after you've gotten down the pattern, but it just took forever to kill him. you have only small windows of time to get a few shots off on him in his "vulnerable" phases.

I still think she looks more like Tony Danza

Originally Posted by Mr. E

Adam Baldwin has a voice in the game too. God I love Chuck.

he's also hot as fuck for a guy in his mid to late 40's.

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I threw 33 hours into the game, pre-ordered it because I though it was gonna kick ass, and was completely disappointed. Leveling was no where near as good as ME1, the armor b/s really pissed me off(I liked the ability to change my shit on the fly), I only found 2 variants of each weapon type, minus heavy weapons where I got 5. The only quests I didn't complete were the hack mission for L'ara and finding a use for the forged ID's.

But it will have some redemption if this is merely The Two Towers and the last one is Return of the King.

But Viva Pinata TIP is much harder than either game, and that game is geared towards children

Also playing these games really make me feel like I'm playing a movie, regardless of how much I dislike it.

y'know, speaking of Chuck, I have to wonder: if the male characters on a show like this weren't so good looking, if they were closer to average, but otherwise portrayed the characters in the same way and did just as good a job, would that affect the show's male viewership?

i mean i'm not saying that it has aaaanything to do with latent homoeroticism or wanting their diques etc., but i would wager that guys just like looking at better looking guys for the same reason that anyone likes looking at things with a better appearance. it's been shown that good looks affect guys' perception of other guys, so i would wager it has an effect on tv shows too.

anyway...

Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars

I threw 33 hours into the game, pre-ordered it because I though it was gonna kick ass, and was completely disappointed. Leveling was no where near as good as ME1, the armor b/s really pissed me off(I liked the ability to change my shit on the fly), I only found 2 variants of each weapon type, minus heavy weapons where I got 5. The only quests I didn't complete were the hack mission for L'ara and finding a use for the forged ID's.

But it will have some redemption if this is merely The Two Towers and the last one is Return of the King.

But Viva Pinata TIP is much harder than either game, and that game is geared towards children

Also playing these games really make me feel like I'm playing a movie, regardless of how much I dislike it.

yeah, i agree with most of it, though i'm still enjoying the game.

what level difficulty did you use? it seems to me that "hardcore" is the baseline for people that are at all decent at vidja games.

i'm disappointed to hear that there are only a couple weapons per normal weapon slot... and yeah, the leveling system was disappointing as well as the "armor b/s," as you so poetically put it.

Some whiney xenophobic asari bint on the citadel takes the forged IDs.

And by xenophobic I mean purely human hating since she probably has a hanar father or thresher maw mother. Honestly the Asari are a really ridiculous lesbian plot device concept.