Mafia issue #7 Skrull Invasion [GAME OVER] SKRULLS WIN! Embrace change...

Flavor!

Last night Elektra, aka Satori_Everything, was found dead! But, wait, before you start mourning, there’s something you need to know: Satori isn’t really dead. The body that was found was a shape-shifting Skrull impersonating Satori! How long have the Skrulls been impersonating Satori? What do they want and why are they here? Are the Skrulls currently impersonating other Earth Heroes? And, if so, who?

Who do you trust?

Rules!

General rules apply. During the day phase, a majority vote causes a lynch which reveals a role and ends the day phase. There is a time limit on how long the Day phase may last, decided by me arbitrarily. Basically, as long as there is discussion and activity, the Day will go on until a lynch. If the game loses activity, I will set a deadline to restimulate the playing. If a day is just taking too long because you're all wishy-washy pansies, I'll just set a deadline.

At night, night actions are submitted and resolved by the GM with the results posted when everyone has acted, bringing the Day Phase back. The hard time limit for night actions will be 24 hours. Since you are required to make one post per day, you can send in a night action when you check the thread. I don't want this game just sputtering out.


There are a couple of special rules:

1) No Private Messaging.

aka no secret alliances.

There is to be no communication about gameplay in this game outside of this thread, aside from the Quicktopic I've assigned to certain players in their role PM. Since I am not a mod, this is going to be on the honor system. If I discover a message has been sent, I will modkill the sender. You are, of course, free to PM me at any time you'd like.

2) You must post at least once each day.

aka POST POST POST

Not once each game day. Once every real, 24-hour period day. If you don't, I'll send you a PM warning you. If you have enough warnings, I'll just modkill you. If you have only limited access to the internet, let me know somehow.

Setup!

The game will run off one of four possible setups (adjusted for flavor of course):

2 goons, 1 cop, 6 town
2 goons, 1 doc, 6 town
1 goon, 1 mafia roleblocker, 1 cop, 1 doc, 5 town
1 goon, 1 mafia roleblocker, 7 town

Players!

Spider-Woman - WellAdjusted
Hawkeye - Vengeful ScarsModkilled during Day Two
Wolverine - coqauvin Killed off during Night Three
Captain America - Think Woofness
Human Torch - Atmoscheer Killed off during Day One
Spider-Man - simonj Skrull killed off during Day Three
Captain Marvel - Karl Killed off during Night One
Yellowjacket - sycld Killed off during Night Two
Invisible Woman - sponge


For the record: I assigned each player a Marvel superhero name. I then assigned the roles using the MafiaScum Random Generator (http://adv-random-gen.sourceforge.ne....php?gen=mafia). Therefore, Skrulls in this game may or may not coincide with the Skrulls in the comics. Not that any of you fuckers would know who the Skrulls were in the comics anyway.

Day One Begins

After an investigation, Iron Man and Mr. Fantastic determined that the shape-shifting Skrulls have secretly kidnapped and replaced 2 Earth Heroes in this small superhero community. It is up to Earth's Heroes to find these 2 Skrulls and kill them. Only then can Earth be saved from a Skrull take over and your two kidnapped friends can be rescued.

Vote who to kill off with the following phrases (in bold, please): /kill KT, /unkill KT, /nokill. A majority vote for nokill will end the Daylight phase immediately without a kill/lynch.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to kill off

I will periodically post the current vote count.

I also want to thank Coqauvin for volunteering to close this thread during night phases. Thanks dude.

Oh and here's a naked, dead Elektra/Satori Skrull

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ka/elektra.jpg

lynch WellAdjusted because addition by subtraction.

rude

/lynch Vengeful Scars because hawkeye is my least favourite character out of the choices

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Originally Posted by KT.

Oh and here's a naked, dead Elektra/Satori Skrull

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...ka/elektra.jpg

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I was totally against this stupid theme until tits

/kill sycld I don't like insects that sting

/delete sponge because what's the point of being a woman who's invisible? If she was mute then, yeah, I'd be on board but a woman is totally useless except as something nice to look at while you stick your dique into her.

Unless the girl is fugly in which case maybe she's doing us all a favour.

there will be no sticking dicks in this invisible woman

/delete welladjusted because enough of the pointless splitvotes

/lynch simonj because if anyone's gonna be filthy mafia scum well

sycld has been mafia more often than I have now.

/unkill simonj

/kill sycld

I don't even know who Hawk Eye is, because comics are for fags.

/Kill Sycld

There are no faggot super heroes

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Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars

I don't even know who Hawk Eye is, because comics are for fags.

/Kill Sycld

There are no faggot super heroes

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http://imgur.com/48Wcw.jpg

Given that I've been mafia 3/4 times I've signed up, and that one time I wasn't I basically set myself up to be killed and was indeed lynched first, I'm hardly surprised to be the first to get lynched.

And this will make 2/2 times I was lynched first when I was town.

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Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars

I don't even know who Hawk Eye is, because comics are for fags.

/Kill Sycld

There are no faggot super heroes

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See, this is how all of you should have known in the game before last that VS and I were mafia together: he didn't lynch me first like he always does!

/superhero superlynch Vengeful Scars

Past roles have no effect on the current game. Lynching sycld for being mafia three times before is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips.

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Lynching sycld for being mafia three times before is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips.

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No it isn't.
/unlynch sponge
/lynch atmoscheer because he's been tails on the last three flips

Current Votecount

sycld (3)
sponge, coqauvin, Vengeful Scars

WellAdjusted (2)
Atmoscheer, Think

Vengeful Scars (2)
WellAdjusted, sycld

Atmoscheer (1)
simonj

Not Voting: Karl

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to kill off.

simonj are you stupid or just mafia?

It was hardly a serious accusation, I was pointing out the error in your post (voting for sycld because he's been mafia so often is like betting a coin will be tails because it has been tails on the last three flips, voting for you because you haven't been mafia is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips, both are stupid because, as you know, each flip has the same 50/50 outcome and previous results make no difference)

I am going to abstain from voting until I have more clues..

/nokill

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Originally Posted by simonj

It was hardly a serious accusation, I was pointing out the error in your post (voting for sycld because he's been mafia so often is like betting a coin will be tails because it has been tails on the last three flips, voting for you because you haven't been mafia is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips, both are stupid because, as you know, each flip has the same 50/50 outcome and previous results make no difference)

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That exactly what I said. The odds of sycld being mafia this game are independent of the outcomes of previous games.

I know, it was your example that was muddled.

I've edited the original post to properly reflect this

wouldn't it be like betting a coin will be tails because it was tails three times before?

i mean either one works...

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Originally Posted by simonj

It was hardly a serious accusation, I was pointing out the error in your post (voting for sycld because he's been mafia so often is like betting a coin will be tails because it has been tails on the last three flips, voting for you because you haven't been mafia is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips, both are stupid because, as you know, each flip has the same 50/50 outcome and previous results make no difference)

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That exactly what I said. The odds of sycld being mafia this game are independent of the outcomes of previous games.

WellAdjusted gets what I meant.

Well that's just a sad state of affairs

atmosfear he is fixing the meaning of heads and tails to being mafia and not being mafia to make the analogy more obvious
yes but simonj the distinction is really an irrelevant one because it's us who attribute meaning to the heads and the tails the main point is that each time it's an independent outcome

time to switch pressure targets.

if it's worth anything, i don't get the impression that sycld is mafia.

/kill vengeful scars

Hey think thanks for pointing that out in less than 30 lines of text. I know that must've taken a lot of editing.

think manages to say what's already been said in a more convoluted way

what a shitty superpower

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

what a shitty superpower

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http://superuseless.blogspot.com/

lol

lol did someone just throw a THINKBOMB!?!?!? (stinkbomb lolololol)

you're all just jealous that I'm Captain America

Guys, I am NOT Mafia/Skrulls. But if you vote me off and kill me, you'll do me a solid by keeping me from having to post every day.

Hawkeye is just homophobic is all.

I wish something interesting would happen I don't know who's skoal or whatever :(

Man, I could go for a can of skol right now.

They're "Skrulls" you guys and yeah, you guys need to do something because this is getting boring.

We're voting off dip? Fuck guys, I'm Grizzly, Wintergreen Long Cut, if that's the case.

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Originally Posted by simonj

Man, I could go for a can of skol right now.

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That'd be Bottle of Skol.

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Originally Posted by sponge

I wish something interesting would happen I don't know who's skoal or whatever :(

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This sounds to me like a similar thing to the "lol what's QT?" but I'm not changing my vote because we are getting nowhere as it is

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Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars

Guys, I am NOT Mafia/Skrulls. But if you vote me off and kill me, you'll do me a solid by keeping me from having to post every day.

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oh

well damn

I want this day to be over, though.

I want to jump on sponge for that, but it's not that surprising.

/unvote

we need a better target.

sponge, what do you think about VS's defense to being voted?

does anyone have any suspicions currently?

Even though you didn't ask me, I think it's legit, because he seems like a pretty lazy person.

My only real suspicion would be sponge, but I mean that's barely even a reason. So far no one has done anything to make them seem suspicious.

I think we need to get through a day and night to see what happens, because so far we really have nothing to go on.

problem is, jumping from person to person like that makes pressuring seem ineffective.

But for today, VS and sycld get to be town.

/vote Atmosfear

what's up, holmes. I see you there, casting one random vote, not joining in discourse or offering opinion on pressure votes. I see you talking about game probability to seem like your contributing to the town, but really giving nothing of value. I see you.

/unkill VS
/kill Atmoscheer

might as well see what you have to say... since coq makes a good point. You haven't said much this game.

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Originally Posted by sponge

I wish something interesting would happen I don't know who's skoal or whatever :(

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Originally Posted by WellAdjusted

This sounds to me like a similar thing to the "lol what's QT?" but I'm not changing my vote because we are getting nowhere as it is

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

I want to jump on sponge for that, but it's not that surprising.

/unvote

we need a better target.

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:lesigh: it was a joke, hence the "or whatever". Obviously Skrulls are comic book bad guys or something, and it wouldn't make sense to have the mafia be called "skoals" (mainly because skoal is an uncountable noun and 'skoal's sounds like child's english but also because dip tends to be immobile)

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Originally Posted by KT.

They're "Skrulls" you guys and yeah, you guys need to do something because this is getting boring.

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lol geez don't get your panties all in a wad just because I made fun of your mafia flavor

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

sponge, what do you think about VS's defense to being voted?

does anyone have any suspicions currently?

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Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars

Guys, I am NOT Mafia/Skrulls. But if you vote me off and kill me, you'll do me a solid by keeping me from having to post every day.

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either the weakest "I'm not mafia" defense ever or he signed up for this game wanting to be a special role (mafia or town) and didn't get it, so now he just wants out

my bets are with option 2 but w/e

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Originally Posted by WellAdjusted

Even though you didn't ask me, I think it's legit, because he seems like a pretty lazy person.

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why thank you

WE MUST ELIMINATE ALL THE SHAPE-SHIFTING CHEWBACCO

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Originally Posted by spone

why thank you

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I was talking about VS being lazy

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Originally Posted by sponge

either the weakest "I'm not mafia" defense ever or he signed up for this game wanting to be a special role (mafia or town) and didn't get it, so now he just wants out

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I agree with this


coq if I could rep you I would hahah

/UNultramega falcon PUUNCH VS
/adamantine claw Atmosflag

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Originally Posted by WellAdjusted

I was talking about VS being lazy

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oh well thanks anyway I guess

also lol sycld

Current Votecount

Atmoscheer (4)
simonj, coqauvin, WellAdjusted, scyld

sycld (2)
sponge, Vengeful Scars

WellAdjusted (2)
Atmoscheer, Think

No Kill (1)
Karl

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to kill off.

atmosfear last posted midday yesterday so he really shouldn't have had too much trouble responding to accusations/queries (whereas if he had only posted pre/post-working hours I'd assume he has work and social activities trumping mafia). Random vote and discussion of the finer points of probability

/kill atmosfear

Final Votecount

Atmoscheer (5)
simonj, coqauvin, WellAdjusted, scyld, sponge

WellAdjusted (2)
Atmoscheer, Think

sycld (1)
Vengeful Scars

No Kill (1)
Karl


Spider-Man may have been the first one to point a finger at the Human Torch, aka Atmoscheer, but it wasn't until Wolverine voiced his concerns did others also become suspicious of the unusually quiet Atmoscheer. A skirmish developed and Invisible Woman delivered the final blow. As Atmoscheer laid motionlessly on the ground, the other heroes gathered around to witness him turn back into his original form, a green pointy-eared alien. Seconds, then minutes passed by and Atmoscheer never transformed. Did Earth's Heroes murder one of there own?!

Iron Man arrived the scene and confirmed what everyone feared: Atmoscheer, aka the Human Torch, was an Earth Hero!

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...HumanTorch.jpg

NIGHT ACTIONS DUE IN 24 HOURS (Wednesday 2pm CDT/7pm GMT)

sponge you're a dumbass

Day Two Begins

Walking home late at night, Captain Marvel, aka Karl, was exhausted from a long day of helping people and protecting the Earth. Earlier that day some of his friends had mistaken his pal the Human Torch as a Skrull and killed him. In hindsight, the Human Torch was clearly not a Skrull. Karl was worried. He couldn't live with himself if he had a hand in mistakenly killing a friend. How could he fight an enemy when he didn't know exactly who that enemy was? What if his friends next think he's a Skrull? Could he fight his friends if it came down to it?

Karl was so deep in thought that he didn't realize he was being followed by two large men until it was too late. Karl could take on two men at one time with no problem. In fact he could fight two dozen normal men with no problem, but these guys weren't normal. They cornered Karl into a alley and revealed themselves to be Skrulls.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...inmarvel05.jpg

The next morning couple of guys from a construction crew stumbled upon a dead body. The Skrulls had murdered Earth Hero Karl aka Captain Marvel.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to kill.

/lynch sponge unless you can explain why you'd make such a retarded move

we already discussed this in the attn: coq thread where i called him an idiot some more

sponge that was the dumbest mafia move i've seen in a long time

I only read that thread when it had 2 posts but, either way, mafia discussion should be in this thread

the question now is: does this action make more sense from a skrull or an earth hero pov?

because i get the impression that sponge isn't a skrull and punishing a town player with a lynch only hurts town.

Wwe could always pressure sycld. He was 4th to vote for amtoscheer when, really, 3 votes out of 5 is wnough to put pressure on someone suspicious. Making the leap to the 4th vote seems scummy because it almost guarantees a lynch.
Mind you, sycld is ALWAYS suspicious because he plays like someone who doesn't care for game conventions and is more concerned with making silly jokes and just generally being the faggot that he is.

he does gain huge scum points for that move.

for the moment, though, i'm going to /vote simonj.

These reasons are identical for the reasons i was going to pressure atmosfear with. at this point, even though we've been casually discoursing, i want to hear more from you.

Well what exactly would you like to know? I think my posts so far speak for themselves. When you voted for atmoscheer he at least had something to rebutt (despite not getting a chance).

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Originally Posted by simonj

Mind you, sycld is ALWAYS suspicious because he plays like someone who doesn't care for game conventions and is more concerned with making silly jokes and just generally being the faggot that he is.

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lol... what "game conventions" are you talking about?


also /gay ruby eyebeam simonj

sycld is dangerous because he somehow manages to look town even when he's mafia, which makes him suspicious to me all the fucking time, but for the sake of Day 1, I let it slide. simonj had a very valid point about him voting Atmosfear to L-1 which enabled sponge to hammer.

sycld, why did you vote Atmosfear after there was enough pressure on him for him to talk?

simonj, what do you mean you have nothing to respond to? Your only contributions to the game on Day 1 were the same as Atmosfear, except you made the issue more confused somehow by taking exactly what Atmosfear said and reversing. TBH, can't personally blame you for it, but until the beginning of Day 2, that's all you had. Then, beginning of day 2, you vote to push dumb town (rather than willful scum) after his reasoning was already apparent. You then very, very quickly switch targets to sycld. What's your deal? also, part of your reasoning is based on him only making silly jokes, but this is a large part of your own gameplay (sometimes minus the silly). You certainly haven't brought anything to the table this game that gives you the high horse to condemn sycld for it.

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

sycld is dangerous because he somehow manages to look town even when he's mafia, which makes him suspicious to me all the fucking time, but for the sake of Day 1, I let it slide. simonj had a very valid point about him voting Atmosfear to L-1 which enabled sponge to hammer.

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sycld, why did you vote Atmosfear after there was enough pressure on him for him to talk?

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1) Because atmosfear was flaming
2) Because it pleased me
3) Hey, I only got the vote up to 4/5. It was spooge who made the stupid move of finally offing atmosfear.

god damn you all boo fuckity hoo

I figured he was either mafia or was having a busy week. I bet wrong, oh god no

anyway think has been awfully silent except random vote and the probability discussion and a capt america remark so kill think

OoooOOoooOo You are fucking idiots. Flame on faggots oOoooOOOooOo

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

simonj, what do you mean you have nothing to respond to? Your only contributions to the game on Day 1 were the same as Atmosfear, except you made the issue more confused somehow by taking exactly what Atmosfear said and reversing. TBH, can't personally blame you for it, but until the beginning of Day 2, that's all you had. Then, beginning of day 2, you vote to push dumb town (rather than willful scum) after his reasoning was already apparent. You then very, very quickly switch targets to sycld. What's your deal? also, part of your reasoning is based on him only making silly jokes, but this is a large part of your own gameplay (sometimes minus the silly). You certainly haven't brought anything to the table this game that gives you the high horse to condemn sycld for it.

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I pointed out a mistake in atmoscheer's post. I found the mistake suspect as Atmoscheer isn't normally the type to make mistakes in a probablility analogy but that was just me being paranoid (yeah, I get paranoid, it has got me lynched in the past).
I voted to lynch sponge before his reasoning was apparant (it was in another thread which I hadn't read - I thought I made that clear). Once it WAS apparant I raised my suspicions of sycld (which you share). And, yes, I'm aware I often make stupid jokes in mafia games too, I wasn't condemning sycld for it, just pointing out that it makes figuring out what lies behind his posts quite difficult.
I also wouldn't exactly say I targeted sycld (I didn't actually vote to lynch him), just pointed out that he was logically the next choice to pressure.

I really dislike your reponse. It just feels slimy.

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Originally Posted by simonj

I pointed out a mistake in atmoscheer's post. I found the mistake suspect as Atmoscheer isn't normally the type to make mistakes in a probablility analogy but that was just me being paranoid (yeah, I get paranoid, it has got me lynched in the past).

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But, he didn't make a mistake. Here's the exchange:

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Originally Posted by simonj

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Past roles have no effect on the current game. Lynching sycld for being mafia three times before is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips.

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No it isn't.
/unlynch sponge
/lynch atmoscheer because he's been tails on the last three flips

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Past roles have no effect on the current game. Lynching sycld for being mafia three times before is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips.

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

simonj are you stupid or just mafia?

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Originally Posted by simonj

It was hardly a serious accusation, I was pointing out the error in your post (voting for sycld because he's been mafia so often is like betting a coin will be tails because it has been tails on the last three flips, voting for you because you haven't been mafia is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips, both are stupid because, as you know, each flip has the same 50/50 outcome and previous results make no difference)

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

That exactly what I said. The odds of sycld being mafia this game are independent of the outcomes of previous games.

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You both said the exact same fucking thing. Where is the mistake? You just swapped heads for tails and said you fixed it. That's almost as dumb as sponge hammering Atmosfear instead of waiting one night for him to respond. Responses are more valuable than a straight flip because they give flips context. What's the point of that?

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Originally Posted by simonj

I voted to lynch sponge before his reasoning was apparant (it was in another thread which I hadn't read - I thought I made that clear). Once it WAS apparant I raised my suspicions of sycld (which you share).

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This is valid.

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Originally Posted by simonj

And, yes, I'm aware I often make stupid jokes in mafia games too, I wasn't condemning sycld for it, just pointing out that it makes figuring out what lies behind his posts quite difficult.

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Yes, and the same goes for yourself.

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Originally Posted by simonj

I also wouldn't exactly say I targeted sycld (I didn't actually vote to lynch him)

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Which gains you Skrull points.

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Originally Posted by simonj

just pointed out that he was logically the next choice to pressure.

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Logically.

The way you frame your response bothers me. You're trying so hard to sound innocent it interferes with explaining your actions. This desire to appear innocent, or the need to appear innocent is suspect to me.

My vote stays where it is. I'm rather confident that simonj is mafia.

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

Which gains you Skrull points.

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troof. big time.

i just can't get over how mafia don't realize that saying "i suspect x but i'm not gunna vote for anyone" outs you as mafia.

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Originally Posted by simonj

And, yes, I'm aware I often make stupid jokes in mafia games too, I wasn't condemning sycld for it, just pointing out that it makes figuring out what lies behind his posts quite difficult.

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and if it works?

don't hate the player, hate the (meta-)game.

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

I really dislike your reponse. It just feels slimy.



But, he didn't make a mistake. Here's the exchange:




You both said the exact same fucking thing. Where is the mistake? You just swapped heads for tails and said you fixed it. That's almost as dumb as sponge hammering Atmosfear instead of waiting one night for him to respond. Responses are more valuable than a straight flip because they give flips context. What's the point of that?

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Are you kidding me?
I wasn't correcting his assertion that past outcomes don't make a difference I was correcting the analogy he used.

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Lynching sycld for being mafia three times before is like betting a coin will be heads because it's been tails on the last three flips.

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That is not right. Think of heads as 'town' and tails as 'mafia'. Then you might see why the analogy is incorrect (I will again point out that even WellAdjusted understood this mistake). That is why this is correct

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Lynching sycld for being mafia three times before is like betting a coin will be tails because it's been tails on the last three flips.

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They're both irrelevant because, as I had stated, the original point "Past roles have no effect on the current game." is correct.

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This is valid.



Yes, and the same goes for yourself.

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That's completely fair. But being paranoid about tiny things which I have already been explained screams scum to me.

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Which gains you Skrull points.

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I think constantly flip-flopping between lynchtargets is a bigger scumtell than waiting to evaluate the evidence properly.

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The way you frame your response bothers me. You're trying so hard to sound innocent it interferes with explaining your actions. This desire to appear innocent, or the need to appear innocent is suspect to me.

My vote stays where it is. I'm rather confident that simonj is mafia.

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Your accusations bother me. They're worded as though everyone should listen to you because you're clearly town when, really, I see no substantial evidence for that either.

Okay, so am I the only person who noticed that this thread was a reaction to coqauvin criticizing spooge for nailing the final nail in the atmosflare's coffin?

attn coq - Casual Discourse

But there was no dialogue in this thread about that vote, and PM's are not allowed.

Now, EITHER coq chided spooge over his vote via illegal PM's, or spooge was replying to a conversration on quicktopic lolwutisquicktopic*

Am I insane for thinking this?

Also, am I insane for thinking that coq's assumption that spooge is town is completely unjustified?

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

because i get the impression that sponge isn't a skrull and punishing a town player with a lynch only hurts town.

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I think coq and spooge are both mafia. Either they are painfully obviously transparent, or I am really missing something here...


*is not a meme

simonj

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Originally Posted by simonj

Are you kidding me?
I wasn't correcting his assertion that past outcomes don't make a difference I was correcting the analogy he used.

That is not right. Think of heads as 'town' and tails as 'mafia'. Then you might see why the analogy is incorrect (I will again point out that even WellAdjusted understood this mistake). That is why this is correct

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Fair enough, I guess. Personally, I understood what he was trying to convey without the semantics and I'm pretty sure everyone else did, if WellAdjusted is the scale of our cognitive ability (no offense). Which means this, as a contribution to looking for Skrulls, is valueless.

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Originally Posted by simonj

That's completely fair. But being paranoid about tiny things which I have already been explained screams scum to me.

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Then give us details and context. You, instead, just said 'because he isn't always serious, he's potentially scum'. This is much different than the example I used in Mafia 5.1 where I drew an accurate parallel between Vengeful Scars voting KT. to get town points the exact same way MrShrike did so against me in Mafia 2.

So expand your condemnation of sycld, if you believed he was the next logical choice.

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Originally Posted by simonj

I think constantly flip-flopping between lynchtargets is a bigger scumtell than waiting to evaluate the evidence properly.

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oh, so the first vote we cast is the only one we're supposed to have? Maybe we can swap x amount of times, but what value of x=flip flopping?

Tell me, simonj, what if you start a bandwagon on someone and, after some pressure, you genuinely believe they aren't mafia? What should you, or I, do in that situation?

Remember how I said "guys, for what it's worth, I don't think sycld is scum" when I unvoted him? At that point, I swapped to Vengeful Scars. Turns out I didn't like that target either. Too little information to put his response into context. Was I the only one with this opinion?

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Originally Posted by WellAdjusted

Even though you didn't ask me, I think it's legit, because he seems like a pretty lazy person.

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Originally Posted by sponge

either the weakest "I'm not mafia" defense ever or he signed up for this game wanting to be a special role (mafia or town) and didn't get it, so now he just wants out

my bets are with option 2 but w/e

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Oh. I guess all three mafia backed each other up on that one.

So I swapped to Atmosfear for another target for pressure, which, as we know, didn't pan out as expected.

I already explained that I didn't like switching between so many targets in such a short time frame because it gives the impression that applying this pressure doesn't have any effect or consequence.

Now, with my vote history all summed up nice and neatly, I can understand the direction you're coming from by saying this flip-flopping is a mafia tell. Is it really? There's a fine distinction between what I'm doing, which is starting bandwagons and testing reactions to determine alignment, and what scummy flipflopping is, which is just jumping bandwagons in progress to get a faster lynch of someone who's town. Maybe you'll bring up KT. in Mafia 5.1 and her D1 jumping between targets, but this falls into the latter case. Keep in mind, I started and stopped all of those bandwagons, save the last. Would that kind of play benefit the Skrulls in a reasonable way?

About waiting to evaluate the evidence properly: What evidence? You just said "Hey, maybe we should target sycld. Uh, he's not being serious and blah blah blah". Where and how do you expect to get evidence from that? Like sycld's just going to jump up and say "Hey, you got me!" because you thinking about maybe pressuring him if someone else wants to do it too? That's dumb, and you're dumb if you think that's valid. How do you plan on getting 'evidence' (what is evidence, for that matter?) by doing what you did?

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Originally Posted by simonj

Your accusations bother me. They're worded as though everyone should listen to you because you're clearly town when, really, I see no substantial evidence for that either.

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Mirroring my accusation and changing a noun and verb here and there don't buy you town points either, you know.

Let's address this thing about me being town. Do my actions make more sense from me being scum or me being town? I would genuinely like to know what you think of this.


sycld

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Originally Posted by sycld

Okay, so am I the only person who noticed that this thread was a reaction to coqauvin criticizing spooge for nailing the final nail in the atmosflare's coffin?

attn coq - Casual Discourse

But there was no dialogue in this thread about that vote, and PM's are not allowed.

Now, EITHER coq chided spooge over his vote via illegal PM's, or spooge was replying to a conversration on quicktopic lolwutisquicktopic*

Am I insane for thinking this?

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No. After the Day was done, before I locked the thread, I left a message that said: "sponge, you're an idiot." KT. asked me to delete it, so I did. I'm going to undelete it for a couple days so you have context. This was pretty out of line from me, and I apologize for pulling a stunt like that.

Here is the link to the post in question: Post #60 in this thread.

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Originally Posted by sycld

Also, am I insane for thinking that coq's assumption that spooge is town is completely unjustified?

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No, you're not. But based on the conversation in the other thread (which shouldn't actually be the case: this argument should have happened in this thread after Day 2 began) and sponge's reactions in game thus far, I'm inclined to believe he's town. I don't think that lynching sponge is a good idea, right now. Hey, maybe he'll ask what QuickTopic is and I'll change my mind.

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Originally Posted by sycld

I think coq and spooge are both mafia. Either they are painfully obviously transparent, or I am really missing something here...

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You are missing something, and I filled that in.

Current Vote Count

simonj (2)
coqauvin, sycld

sponge (1)
simonj

Think (1)
sponge

Note Voting: WellAdjusted, Think, Vengeful Scars

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to kill off

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

No. After the Day was done, before I locked the thread, I left a message that said: "sponge, you're an idiot." KT. asked me to delete it, so I did. I'm going to undelete it for a couple days so you have context. This was pretty out of line from me, and I apologize for pulling a stunt like that.

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Okay, good... I thought I was either going crazy or you were surprisingly really, really screwing up at being mafia.

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Originally Posted by sycld

Okay, so am I the only person who noticed that this thread was a reaction to coqauvin criticizing spooge for nailing the final nail in the atmosflare's coffin?

attn coq - Casual Discourse

But there was no dialogue in this thread about that vote, and PM's are not allowed.

Now, EITHER coq chided spooge over his vote via illegal PM's, or spooge was replying to a conversration on quicktopic lolwutisquicktopic*

Am I insane for thinking this?

Also, am I insane for thinking that coq's assumption that spooge is town is completely unjustified?



I think coq and spooge are both mafia. Either they are painfully obviously transparent, or I am really missing something here...


*is not a meme

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I am really not sure what is going on itt but my flames thread was in response to

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

sponge you're a dumbass

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which was posted like 5 minutes after kt declared night

sorry make that 2 minutes

oh my god I am so confused right now coq abusing mod powers etc etc

ten bucks says coq knows who mafia is either by being mafia or hacking pms with his mod supapowers

it's because i have cameras set up on all your computer desks

yes, yours

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

it's because i have cameras set up on all your computer desks

yes, yours

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what are you the govment

christine o'donnell warned me about this

i'm nothing like what you've heard

so, uh, don't post or vote all at once now, guys

I have sent out warnings to the inactive players. If major game play doesn't start happening by tonight, I will be forced to set a deadline.

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Originally Posted by sponge

god damn you all boo fuckity hoo

I figured he was either mafia or was having a busy week. I bet wrong, oh god no

anyway think has been awfully silent except random vote and the probability discussion and a capt america remark so kill think

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attn think hello are you there

it's painfully obvious that coqauvin, sponge, and simonj are mafia.

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Originally Posted by sycld

it's painfully obvious that coqauvin, sponge, and simonj are mafia.

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you are an idiot

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Originally Posted by sycld

it's painfully obvious that coqauvin, sponge, and simonj are mafia.

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Originally Posted by sponge

you are an idiot

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mainly because KT's game description only lists a maximum of 2 mafia, a goon and either another goon or a roleblocker

unkill think kill sycld

haha sponge, really?

you really should be voting for simonj, you know. He is one scummy bastard

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

haha sponge, really?

you really should be voting for simonj, you know. He is one scummy bastard

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isn't that what we do here

off people who don't read?

nah, i didn't get voted off last game.

pretty sure sycld's trying to be a funnyman, though

I don't want to vote for sycld because he might not be mafia, he is always pretty suspicious. The thing with three mafia is pretty suspicious though.

I don't think sponge is mafia, I just think he wanted the next day to come or just didn't think about it.

I don't like how coq brought it to a different thread and I think that maybe be rushed it to make it seem like he was innocent. Then again using mod powers to add text when you're mafia would be a stupid move, but I am going to /kill coqbecause he is most suspicious to me

I mean logically speaking if sycld was mafia he'd know there are only 2 (unless he is super dumb) soimean :shrug: