So how about that UFC 94 starting here shortly? War BJ!
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So how about that UFC 94 starting here shortly? War BJ!
Penn is such a piece of shit lol, the guy talks so much shit and is so full of himself it's ridiculous. I always root for him though, he's living proof that technique almost always overcomes size and strength. IMO if he is in as good shape as he says he's in, he will convincingly beat GSP. If not, GSP might take a decision. As much as I love GSP, and as awesome as GSP v. Anderson Silva sounds, watching Penn beat him, move back down to 155 to beat Florian and move back up to 170 to beat Alves sounds so much better.
Also I'm going to go ahead and say Machida def. Silva via KO.
Thiago Silva's style is tailor made for a Machida knock out. He likes to push the action and wildly overrates his own stand up. He's never fought a decently skilled opponent, and he's going to be face down on the mat if he tries to bullrush Machida with his sloppy stand up.
I feel the same way about Penn. I put him in the same category as a Matt Hughes* in that he's a total dick, but he's so good that it's excusable. Also yeah Machida should win via ninja destruction. This card looks to be all around solid though. There are even three undercard matches that I wouldn't mind seeing in Jake O'Brien/Wellisch, Fitch/Gono and Manny Gamburyan/Thiago Tavares.
*In his prime
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i believe this is an lolwut moment
Yeah...what a lazy fuck. That fight should have been a competition.
Less chili dogs+more training-vacation time during training is clearly the answer to that problem.
Anyway how crazy was Jon Jones? No doubt a future champ. Dude is only 21 and in his second UFC fight and fucking HANDLES Stephan Bonner. And how about that spinning back elbow? The man is a walking highlight reel. I'll take this opportunity to brag that Jones turned down a fight with me. He was reffing my grappling tournament and I was like 'you wanna fight' and hes like 'naaah man'. He didn't want none of my shit son.
That spinning back elbow was nice. The guy has a very bright future in the UFC. Of course he's obviously no match for you, smart guy turning that fight down. :D
Other than BJ/GSP and DHK/Karo most of the fights were pretty good though. I'm still glad that I didn't pay for it, but I think Jones/Bonnar and Machida/Silva alone would have made it worth the purchase.
On a side note, how did one of the judges give Gono one of those rounds against Fitch? He did nothing that even resembled winning a round imo...
Didn't see it. Also I thought all the fights were really good, BJ and GSP was amazing just because it was them and I was pretty much on the edge of my seat the whole time. DHK/Karo I thought was decently exciting too.
Also how the fuck was the Guida win a split decision he clearly beat the piss out of Diaz.
Yeah that one confused me as well. The judges must have been high or something last night. Had BJ not been 1. Lazy during training 2. Outweighed by 15 lbs. 3. Lazy in general and had he actually showed up to the fight it would have been better. It wasn't so much a bad or boring fight as it was a disappointment to me.
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B.J. Penn's camp has filed a formal complaint with the Nevada State Athletic Commission over Vaseline that was allegedly rubbed on Georges St. Pierre's back between rounds one and two. UFC president Dana White said at the post-fight press conference that he was aware of the complaint, and said he personally witnessed members of the commission take the Vaseline away from GSP's camp and rebuke them in the Octagon between rounds.
"I saw the commission jump up there and flipping out," said Dana White. They said one of the guys was rubbing Vaseline on Georges' back in between rounds. It was one and two, I think."
"The guys from the athletic commission went up there and started screaming at them. Knocked the Vaseline and kicked the Vaseline out of the Octagon."
White added that "some Vaseline on a guy's back didn't change the outcome of that fight, but you don't do it," and said the blame should fall on the cornerman responsible and not GSP.
"If a guy was intentionally putting Vaseline on a guy's back, he should never corner a mixed martial arts fight again."
As for what becomes of the complaint now, White said it's out of his hands.
"Who knows. That's up to the commission."
http://www.cagepotato.com/bj-penns-c...between-rounds
Not saying that Penn would have won had it not been for that, but it's quite possible that the NSAC will rule it a no-contest because of it. That could have had a huge effect on Penn's ability to control GSP's head in the guard, and I did notice that BJ was having an unusually hard time doing that. I think that's a big reason for BJ becoming discouraged in that fight as well.
Of course his laziness and the fact that he started gassing out in the second round were the biggest factors in the fight.
Edited for evidence to back up this claim:
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(In the third one the NSAC guy looked pretty irritated.)
I saw that, it looked like he was just massaging his shoulders or something. That might explain why Penn's high guard kept slipping off.
Anyway Penn has no excuses. He trained his ass off for the fight, he was in great shape, GSP just dominated him. He wasn't lazy, anyone would have gassed with GSP handling them like that.
Well I honestly don't think that I've ever seen Penn have that kind of trouble controlling someone in his guard. Either way, you're right. He doesn't really have any legitimate excuses for getting beat like a drum. I'm still sticking to the BJ is lazy story, because despite the way they tried to make it look like he trained hard for this one, I somehow doubt that he did anything differently as far as his training is concerned.
UFC 98 is starting to look very watchable.
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Matt Hughes vs. Matt Serra
Frankie Edgar vs. Sean Sherk
Josh Koscheck vs. TBA
Tom Hague vs. Pat Barry
James Irvin vs. Drew McFrederies - Don't Blink
Houston Alexander vs. Andre Gusmao
Phillipe Nover vs. Kyle Bradley
Yosiyuki Yoshida vs. Brandon Wolff
George Roop vs. Dave Kaplan
Vladamir Kozlov vs. HHH
I swear these threads just consist of you two with my occasional input that no one responds to. :( well Mr. E does come in to talk about working out and stuff. though this is a little old who enjoyed watching BJ get molested? And then have BJ nuthuggers complain about "greasing" because they had nothing else to blame? I did!
Well the way I saw it, BJ was going to lose anyway, but GSP did get greased up. At least if he hadn't Penn might have been able to pull off a quick submission or at least kept GSP in his guard a little bit better. It's a dick move on the part of GSP's corner either way.
I'd say that's wishful thinking. I'm not disregarding the fact that it could have made a difference but I don't think it would have made enough of a difference even in hypothetical land.
Well like I said, I don't think it would have made a difference. Vaselining his back and shoulders is just a dickhead move if you're in the corner of an equally dominant fighter with a 10 lb. weight advantage(just guessing at the weight.).
^17 pound.
And while I personally think the only difference it would have made would be making GSP's ground and pound less effective and riding out to a UD, we can't say it wouldn't have made a difference. The fact is GSP's corner greased his back, making it nearly impossible for Penn to use his BJJ, which is arguably his biggest strength. We can't sit here and say it wouldn't have made a difference, no one knows "what if". It was blatant cheating and in my opinion should be ruled a no contest for that reason.
Of course that would suck because it would fuck everything up in the LW and WW divisions just for Penn to get his ass kicked again, but you can't have fighters flat out cheat like that in front of everyone with no consequences.
Oh neat. I wasn't sure exactly what the weight difference is but I knew that GSP cut to make weight and BJ came in under with a lot of extra pudge.
Now ITT we three discuss when we started watching MMA.
I'm not sure of the exact date or what event. But I know it was around my junior or sophmore year in high school (I'm class of '07). I just remember having an affinity for MMA for some reason and buying the Pride Legacy set 1 and watching the entire thing in 2 sittings or so and afterwards I bought Pride Legacy 2 then 3 and so on consecutively. After that I branched into other events Pride (GP and Bushidos). I didn't really care for the UFC until Pride's demise in 2007 but though I care about the UFC and their events, I still hope that one day another organization will come up to fill the empty Pride-shaped hole in my heart. Right now I'm hoping it's Dream but I wouldn't mind if it was Affliction or Sengoku. So that's my MMA (watching) biography.
Sadly enough, I didn't start watching until Ken Shamrock appeared in the WWF. Before that I was unaware that MMA existed. I watched casually until Sylvia/Arlovski and Tito/Shamrock fought, which I think was somewhere around the end of 2006. Since then I've kept up with it pretty regularly. I'm mainly a UFC watcher, but made it a point to watch Pride(Until they went under), WEC, Dream, Affliction, Bodog(Until they shut down, I swear it's the Fedor curse.), Strikeforce, IFL(Also shut down?), Cage Rage(I think that they're shut down as well, haven't seen an event from them in a while.) and EXC(:shifty:).
So basically I'm a pro wrestling convert trapped in a man's body.
Don't remember, probably sometime last year. Didn't get really into until around the summer(Griffin v. Rampage was my first ppv) and started training around the beginning of October.
Also not really related but I feel like ranting. It's really fucking frustrating not being able to get a fight. I'm only a 16 year old babby and I think you have to be 18 to get a sanctioned fight in NJ(or have parental consent, and im 99% sure my parents would not give that) so I probably won't be able to fight for like a year and a half. It's terrible when all of my training partners are starting to apply for fights and I'm stuck here with my thumb up my ass only being able to go to grappling tournaments. Fuck this shit, I have no doubt if I got matched up with someone in my weight class/experience level I would probably tool them. If anything else most amateur(and probs even pro) debut fights are based on who is more confident/aggressive, and god knows I have that up the asshole. [/rant]
edit: fuck, just got an email back from new breed fighters. 18 only. fuck my life
^^^^^^
Come to Alabama. Some of the smaller orgs here will let just about anyone fight.
The thing with NJ is if you fight in an unsanctioned fight in any other state where you're allowed to strike to the head on the ground/knee to the head you cannot fight amateur in NJ and you have to fight pro. Anyway I just got a text saying my team is going to a muay thai tournament on March 21, so I'm actually pretty happy haha. As long as my parents let me it should be tight. Sucks cause grappling is my main strength, but whatever I'm definitely down for this.
You could always just ignore the fact that you've ever done it. There wouldn't be any real evidence that you've ever competed as far as I know.
Serious question raghead do you still do drugs since you're training? or like nick diaz said does your training get in the way of your marijuana?
Nope I've actually stopped doing drugs all together for the most part. Smoking weed has never affected my cardio, its the munchies that are killer.
Anyway if all goes well I'll have an amateur muay thai fight on march 21st :). Eating clean, no drugs and trying to get in a couple rounds of bag work everyday(classes are only twice a week). Plus I have to bring up all my grades mad high to convince my parents to let me go. Also SATs lol. Gonna be a busy month.
Anyway, even though my kick boxing is iffy at the moment(mostly due to nervousness fighting my training partners who are all bigger than me) I'm pretty confident. Each fight is three, two minute rounds lol. So pretty much I'll be able to go methhead speed non stop. As long as nerves dont get my I'm pretty sure I'm going to kick ass.
Oh that's good i'm pretty sure.
brb watching dirty Sanchez smash Joe Daddy.
Lol at Koscheck. What a moron, he obviously wasn't taking him seriously. The whole fight I kept saying "what the fuck is he doing, why is he throwing that overhand right so sloppy he's gonna get knocked out". And look what happened. Fucking idiot, the UFC starts building him up for a title shot and he just throws it away.
edit: also, beautiful triangle from maia. that is actually my goto submission from mount and one of my favorite submissions so i thought that was awesome.
as for sanchez v. stevenson: wow. amazing fight, one of the best i've seen in a long time. the scrambles were absolutely beautiful, great stand up from both. i thought sanchez overused the bodyshot to uppercut combo way too much though, and got hit pretty hard a couple times because of it. also you could tell the weight cut affected him in the third round. the way he had his arm down(for those of you that dont know its a classic boxing trick when you're too tired to keep your arm up, keeps you defended and lets you snap a good jab from waist) at first i thought was just to throw stevenson off, but then after he went for the takedown after that i knew it was because he was getting tired. he'll definitely be a force at 155 though, i hope he fights sherk next.
Sanchez/Sherk and Stevenson/Huerta would be the two matches that I'd like to see come of this. In all honesty the lightweight division has enough talent that I can think of a half dozen people off of the top of my head that would make a great next opponent for Sanchez.
As for Koscheck, he obviously didn't take his opponent seriously, but I'm going to agree with him on the early stoppage. He had clearly recovered by the time he hit the ground, and even put his hands up to defend before the ref stopped it.
Maia, that guy never fails to impress me. His Jiu Jitsu is just out of this world. Sonnen is no slouch on the ground, but Maia made him look like terrible.
The Marquardt/Gouvernietalabomba(Yeah I'm not even going to try to spell that.) fight was pretty decent as well, as was all of the one minute of the Dos Santos/Struve fight.
All in all it was a good event. It seems to me that the last couple of free events have actually been better than the PPVs.
Yeah Dos Santos is a machine. He should fight the loser of Gonzaga/Carwin next.
As for the early stoppage, normally I would agree but there is a rule in certain places(england probably being one of them) that the fight has to be stopped after flash knockouts. So yeah, it was a justified stoppage.
Well Koscheck is a dick so I really don't like to take up for him much. If that's the rule in England I guess I support the call, but I still would have liked to see how the fight played out because I don't think that it was anywhere near over at that point.
I don't know if it's the rule in England, but I know there are a couple states with that rules so yeah it could be.
IMO Kos would have probably been subbed if it kept going. Thiago is a BJJ guy, and I don't think I've ever seen Kos do anything off his back. Plus he was rocked pretty hard.
From mmaweekly.com:
"Just as quickly as it was announced, a UFC heavyweight title unification bout between current champion Brock Lesnar and interim titleholder Frank Mir has apparently been scrapped.
Fiveouncesofpain.com reported that Mir suffered a back injury that has kept him from training recently and caused his removal from the UFC 98 main event bout.
Multiple MMAWeekly.com sources, however, indicated that it is a knee injury that has precluded Mir from training. They also said that he recently underwent surgery to repair the knee, which will sideline him for the next four to six weeks to allow the knee to sufficiently heal.
The UFC had no comment at the time of publication. It is currently unknown if the promotion will try to find a replacement for Mir in the bout with Lesnar, or if they will move to insert a new UFC 98 headline bout."
Frank Murr is skurred.
He is still fighting according to Yahoo! Sports.
Personally, I believe Mir is reading all the hype about this on the internet and laughing his ass off. Remember a couple months ago how he talked about spreading misleading rumors about being injured to mess with Big Nog's head? I like how everyone forgets that so quickly.
They just announced it on ufc 96, the fights postponed. On a side note, Hamill just knocked Munoz tfo. Then I couldn't understand his victory speech.
Also, Rampage Jackson is an idiot, I can only hope that he dies in a house fire in the next few days.
Why? That was one hell of a fuckin fight.
and how about matt motherfuckin brown? rape all around
also how about shane motherfuckin carwin? knocked out gonzaga with an arm punch. he didn't put anything into that and fucking knocked out gonzaga. that guy has ridiculous power
I don't have a problem with Jackson as a fighter, although the first round wasn't much to watch, the rest of the fight was great. I think that Jardine really did lose it with that last knockdown, although other than that I was very impressed with his chin tonight. As a person I think that Rampage is probably one of the biggest pieces of shit in mma, or at least he comes across that way.
Matt Brown was spectacular, and fairly classy in that he didn't beat Sell to death while Yves was doing whatever it was that he was doing. When he first stopped the fight it was more or less over, but it would have been an early stoppage imo. It could have been called at any given time after that though, and should have been.
Carwin has a ton of power, but that's about it. I personally don't like the guy and wish that Gonzaga had finished him when he had him rocked. I can't say that I'm unimpressed by Carwin though.
McCrory looked impressive. He's like a supernerd ninja or something, talking about Metalocalypse in his post fight interview. :D
I was also kind of hoping that Vera would lose, but I may change my mind about him because he looked like he might actually be serious about fighting now. I know he's pulled the "No, really guys this time I'm actually going to try" card a million times, but he seems like he might be serious for once.
All around it was a good card, there weren't really any disappointing matches.
Didn't see the Vera fight I wanna see that.
Also let me know if you ever find a video with rampage and evans shit talking at the end. Right when they started talking the place I was at decided to turn off the sound and start playing music for whatever dumbass reason so I missed that whole thing.
rampage is gonna fuck his shit up
i cant stand rashad for whatever reason
I can't really stand either of them. I'm looking forward to Machida taking the belt from whoever wins that matchup.
Bump for video. (Three posts up)
So anyway how about Wandy v. Franklin?
Such an awesome match up, but I hate the timing because I don't want either of them to have a second loss in a row. I see Ace taking this one, especially after coming off that semi-controversial loss to Hendo, you can bet that lit a fire under his ass. If Wanderlei is smart he'll avoid trying to brawl with Franklin, that'll just get him picked apart as Franklin is way to smart to get caught up with that. Honestly I think Silva's best chance is to try and take him down and work to pound him out or submit him(lol hes a black belt remember). Or of course, if he manages to clinch him work that Silva magic just like Anderson did and knee him into the hospital.
I personally believe Franklin will systematically pick him apart like he did to Hendo in the 3rd round, and eventually get a TKO.
Well the thing about Franklin is that he's a bad ass in the clinch, just not against Andy. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. With any luck Ace will rock Wandy's world. (Franklin is probably my favorite fighter as far as his personality is concerned, and one of my favorite to watch fight.)
Rashad is overly arrogant and Rampage is overly...well for lack of a better word, I'm going with "niggerish".
Franklin has a great clinch game, but I would definitely give the advantage there to Wandy. Silva v. Rampge I and II anyone?
And I don't mind Rashad being arrogant, I usually like arrogant fighters(i'm one of them lol). I think he's really overrated. I mean he lost that fight against Tito, beat Liddell really isn't impressive any more and Griffin pretty much tooled him for 2 rounds before he landed a punch. The Griffin win is the only impressive one on his resume in my opinion, and everyone is hailing him as the next Liddell. The only problem now is Rampage has such little time to prepare for this fight, he might not come in at 100% and lose.
Also, for the record, I fucking love Rampage.
In all fairness, Rampage's only ability in the clinch is catching knees to the face. :D
Rampage is going to have to improve some aspects of his game if he wants to stay relevant. First on the list has to be learning to check leg kicks.
I have a hard time convincing my friends that my dislike for Rampage and Rashad isn't based on the color of their skin.
Rampage needs surgery on his jaw.
Machida v. Evans is official for UFC 98.
As much as I hate to say it, I think Evans has the best chance of anyone to beat Machida. If he could manage to take him down and work some GNP he might just win a decision or even get a stoppage. More than likely though he will try and stand with him and get systematically picked apart until the end. I hope at least. This could either make for an awesome fight, or an extremely boring one.
It'd be funny if Machida steps in and brawls with him and wins via brutal ko. :D
Never know dude lol, no one has been able to touch Machida's chin, for all we know it's granite.
Also fuck PA laws. Apparently since I'm under 18 I'm not allowed to fight anyone over 18, so I couldn't find a fight for March 21st. I'm still on "stand-by" just in case someone gets injured, but I'm guaranteed a fight 4/25. More time to prepare I guess. Training 4 days a week, 2.5 hours a day is kinda tough though when my fight isn't for a fuckin month and a half.
Oh word. Since the Army thing didn't work out, I'm going to do my best to get back in decent shape and work hard at my jiu jitsu. I've about decided that fighting is something that I seriously want to persue. Right now I've got to worry about getting a job though to pay for training. Hopefully if I take it seriously enough I can get some people to sponsor me and make something of it.
Any of you guys watch Dream 7? I just wanted to mention how amazing Shinya Aoki is. he's amazing. his grappling is so sick i mean he just taps anyone (the cans he's fought) however he wants. just watching him at dream 7 just made me realize how good he actually is, kinda like how i realized how good machida is after watching Machida/Ortiz for the second time and then having it cemented by his KO of Silva in pretty dominating fashion.
No I meant to watch it, but with the time difference I can never seem to stay up and watch Dream events.
Aoki is a wizard on the ground, but I'm pretty sure he would be dominated if he ever tried to compete in the UFC LW division. Japan has an extremely weak LW division. I'm pretty sure any decent wrestler like Guida, Tyson Griffin, or Stevenson would beat Aoki. Sherk would flat out destroy him, and Penn and Florian would probably make pretty quick work of him too.
Point being his BJJ is amazing, but his striking and wrestling aren't nearly up to par with UFC standards.
Anyway, who's psyched for Strikeforce? They got some real quality shows planned, I can't wait.
Diaz v. Shamrock is an amazing match up. Also Lawler v. Shields is going to be coming up which also should be awesome. The promoters definitely seem like they know what they're doing, unlike Affliction.
BTW if you haven't watched the Diaz v. Shamrock press conference yet, find it. It's fucking hilarious. Diaz gets burned everytime he tries to say something lol.
I fucking hate Aoki. I was hoping Eddie Alvarez was going to woop his ass. He needs a real beatdown from someone.
As for the Diaz Shamrock fight, it looks good. What channel is it going to be on though, HD Net?
Bobby Lashley beat Jason Guida. Pro wrestlers make good MMA fighters with a bit of training I guess. Was pretty one-sided, but Guida did get him in a pretty mean looking guillotine choke for a bit.
I don't agree with you saying that Aoki would get destroyed by any of those guys. I mean it can happen but i think you're just basing it on pure speculation, I mean that's how most ranking in MMA goes but I don't think you can just say that most of the UFC LWs are just so clearly better than the Japanese LWs.
cough cough
Anyway WEC tonight niggas. Always looking forward to watching Torres rape someone.
Also I'm betting on Curran to beat Faber's guy.
http://www.centsports.com/?opcode=468818
sign up on this website, you don't need a credit card or anything and you get 10 cents to start off and you can bet on mma and shit. then you can cash out if you end up making money. also everytime you lose all your money you can restart with 10 cents, its quite badass. i'm betting 10 cents on curran to win 16 cents hell yeah high roller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFDp5D49xx8
awesome interview, i love forrest
also, for strikeforce i'm betting on Diaz over shamrock at 140+ and next week shogun over liddell at 160+
Is that the one where he talks about staph and saying he wouldn't fight Machida (or would prefer to fight Rashad)?
I put all my monies on Shogun over Liddell ($.10) and got a 100% bonus payout for "looking" at an ad. (Adblock :)) The Diaz bet is probably a better bet but I just went with Shogun just to have a reason to root for him, yeah for a 32 cent payout.
Fixed the link. Yeah its the interview where he's like "Evans is predictable, he's gonna hit you hard and if that doesn't work he's gonna wrassle you. Machida is gonna ninja you and make you look bad."
Also yeah you don't even have to like look at an add to get that bonus its weird. Anyway Diaz better pull this one out, so far everyone I bet on has lost when they should have won lol.
Shogun looked pretty sexy tonight.
I couldn't finish the Silva fight, it was so boring. After a while I just turned the sound off and played Sandstorm on repeat one.
Didn't watch the other fights I know raghead did so which ones should i watch?
Kongo fight was alright. Didn't really pay attention to any of the other ones except the Shogun fight. Shogun looked really good. Liddell didn't even look bad, Shogun just completely outclassed him.
The Silva fight was horrible. It was so bad everyone in the bar was fucking booing the TV lol. The worst part was it was blatantly obvious Silva could finish it whenever he wanted, he just... didn't. Fucking Leites was flat out bending over to get away from punches, all it would have taken was one knee. Silva needs someone that can actually threaten him, or I think this is going to keep happening. You could even tell when he walked in, he was just bored. He looked like he just woke up. I hope Wandy comes in and gets a few good punches on his chin, then we'll see the really Anderson come back.
edit: oh yeah and the Cane/Cantwell fight was really good. both of them looked great, give them a couple years and they'll be top 10.
Silva was terrible because he was fighting more to retain the belt than to actually win the match. Cantwell is going to be a beast in a few years when he hits his prime, I hated to see him lose a decision like that. Chuck looked good, he's just done I think. Cheick looked like a black Brock with his Donkey Kong technique at the end. Stann looked off, I'm not sure why he gave that arm back the second time for the kimura. Wiman got robbed, the fight that I saw was an easy 29-28 for him.
There's my brief rundown.
Stann was always a one dimensional one hit wonder with that win over Cantwell. Cantwell looked real good, but I'm glad that Cane edged it out. I'd like to see him take a crack at a top 10 LHW in his next fight.
Silva wasn't just trying to retain the belt, there were obvious moments when he could have finished the fight and chose not to. The truth came out in the press conference when Ed Soares was defending him. He said the only question people had about Silva was his cardio because he never has been out of the 2nd round. He then went on to say that "He just went 25 minutes without breaking a sweat, and now has nothing left to prove". I believe thats what he was trying to do in the Cote fight as well. God knows why he thinks proving his cardio by fighting a boring fight is more impressive then finishing it. Though if you do look at it from a technical perspective, it was a pretty amazing display of dominance. Then again that would have been a lot more impressive if he wasn't fighting fucking Thales Leites, who is by no means a push over but I mean the guy could use a good 3 or 4 years before he'll be really ready for a title shot.
Remember when Forrest Griffin joked about getting all the 205ers together to pay Anderson Silva to stay at 185?
Joe Silva apparently took that as a hint to match them up. UFC 101 so far is Forrest Griffin v. Anderson Silva and BJ Penn v. Kenny Florian. AND ITS IN FUCKIN PHILLY NIGGAS! i dont give a shit how much these tickets cost i am going to fucking be there
I just read about that on mmafighting.net, it'll be nice to see Forrest come back and be the one to end Andy.
Edit for I didn't notice the BJ/Kenflo matchup though that will be pretty ballin'.
So the topic of the day is "Will Mike Brown ever beat Faber decisively or will he continue to ride the luck train until someone else beats him?".
Also, I feel bad for Jens. That's gotta be devastating for him.
You know you're an awesome guy when they guy fighting you looks like he feels horrible after submitting you in 30 seconds lol. Yeah that fight made me feel like shit, I just hope the guy retires and starts doing seminars or something. You know, like stays active in the sport but doesn't compete and continually get his ass kicked.
Anyway the Faber/Brown fight was absolutely amazing. Faber definitely would have won if he didn't break his hand. He was tooling Brown standing before the injury and he had at least 4 or 5 guillotines that he could have finished if he could have gripped his hands(most of the he let go instantly right when Brown started to push his hand). But still, you can't take anything away from Brown. The dude is a warrior and put up one hell of a fight. Definitely the number 1 featherweight(number 2 once Faber comes back).
Also Jose Aldo is a fucking beast. And only 22 years old jesus christ. If they give him a title shot now though, he will lose. I guarantee it. Combine the pressure of a title fight, his inexperience and the size and wrestling advantage of Mike Brown and you have a terrible match up for Aldo. I think Aldo might have a better chance against Faber. If Faber decided to use his wrestling and ground and pound or go for a submission he'd take it pretty quickly. Chances are though, Faber would try and stand and get knocked out by the one guy in the world that is actually faster than he is. Give Aldo a couple years and he's going to rule the division for a long time, but I don't think it's his time yet.
I'm not taking anything away from Brown, it's safe to say that he's the second best featherweight in the WEC, and he is the champ. I just can't get over how some people are hugging his nuts for a couple of fluke wins. Aldo is beastly, and will probably be champ before too long. His experience level right now just isn't where it needs to be. Give him two or three more quality opponents, then feed him Brown, and he should be ok.
I feel the same way about Jens. Even though he doesn't really look/sound like it, he's pretty intelligent and has a lot to offer the MMA world outside of the cage. I'd love to see him start doing seminars or open up a gym or something. It's just sad to see him take loss after loss like he is. The problem is that Jens is alive and well, but Lil' Evil died a long time ago. If he can't get Lil' Evil back in the cage, he might as well forget about fighting.
mmm gina carano
Gina Carano would be much hotter if she didn't outweigh me.
and if she could actually fight. womens mma is as much of a joke as the womens basketball.
anyway who you got for the weekend?
i got franklin outpointing wandy, maybe getting a late tko
crocop by destruction if he's in the shape he says he is
velasquez by kongo having zero takedown defense
Well let's see.
I've got Ace via tko, probably late in round two or in the middle of three. Here's the thing though. I love Franklin as a fighter, but I'd almost like to see Wandy beat him in a decisive fashion. I love Forrest Griffin as a fighter, but I'd like to see Andy beat him without taking any damage. I'm thinking that if what Dana White is saying is true, that if those things happen we could see Wandy vs. Andy, it could possibly bring back the old Anderson Silva. Maybe even the old Wandy. There's nothing some good ol' dislike between fighters to bring out the best in both of them. That's pretty hard for me to say, given that deep down in my heart, I want to see both Forrest and Ace win these matchups.
I've got Velasquez beating Kongo via ktfo. Kongo just really didn't impress me as much in his last two fights against Hardonk and Al-Turk, I've got a lot of confidence in Velasquez's ability, and Kongo only took the fight a few weeks ago when Herring backed out. I'll be shocked if Cheick can somehow pull this one off.
Swick vs. Saunders, I honestly don't care, but I'm pulling for Saunders to win it in the second round, probably with a submission.
Davis vs. Hardy should be pretty good. I'm guessing that they stand and bang and Davis drops him in the third. From what I understand these two guys don't like each other much, so it could be fotn material if Wandy/Franklin doesn't deliver.
Fisher vs. Uno is another one that I'm really not that excited about, but they could easily prove me wrong and bring an exciting fight. I'd put money on Fisher taking a UD.
Cro Cop/Al Turk, if Cro Cop is really injury free and healthy, I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a first round KO over Al Turk. I'm just hoping that he's doing as well as he claims to be. Dana had to have seen him in pretty great shape to sign a one fight deal though, so I'm guessing that Mirko is coming back at 100%.
Well let's just put it this way, if she was set to fight a blue whale, and the fight weight was set at 4000 lbs., she would still come in 5 lbs. over.
Ok really she doesn't weigh that much but she's probably around 150 and that's more than a girl should weigh for me to look at her and say "mmm".
Yeah, I kind of hate the Franklin/Silva match up because I don't want to see either of them lose.
Honestly though, I think I loss will hurt Franklin more, so I'm pulling for him. A lot of people are questioning his legitimacy as a top fighter, and a win over Wand would solidify that. Wand on the other hand is well established, and short of another first round KO, he'll be back. I'm hoping to see a really close war, with Franklin pulling it out in the end but Wand showing that he still has it.
Also, I don't want to see Silva v. Silva. Wanderlei talks about how he knows Anderson and has KO'd him in sparring, but he's never really trained with Anderson. He trained with the Anderson Silva that got submitted by Ryo Chonan, not the Anderson Silva that tore through Rich and Hendo like they were nothing. I don't see any outcome to Wand v. Anderson other than Anderson winning by brutal KO, probably in the first.
So who else thinks its ironic that Franklin beat Wandy in the exact same way that Hendo beat Franklin? I don't hear him complaining about getting points for getting a takedown and doing no damage on top now.
Well I find it ironic that Franklin beat Wandy without headbutting him or gouging his eyes out.
TUF 9 Finale go
dollar via tko (maybe sub, but im thinkin tko because of dents decision to fight with his chin pointing at the fuckin sky)
osipack via tko
tibau via decision
diaz via decision/sub or stevenson via lay and pray
lytle via decision
winner via decision
johnson via tko
sanchez via decision
edit: holy shit tits balls
diaz v. stevenson= awesome grappling clinc
sanchez v. guida = easily the best fight i've ever seen, period
The Sanchez fight was great, mainly the first round.
I was rooting for Diego to win because I hate cavemen, was hoping he would be able to capitalize but good job on Guida on being able to take that kick.
I don't see why so many people hate Guida, the guy brings a high energy, highly entertaining fight every time he hits the octagon. I personally love the guy just for the way he brings the fight.
He does have great energy, it just frustrates me on how he just does damage in the guard and the action never changes, very effective technique though. Not to mention he just looks so unsanitary.
Guida has a ton of heart, but he really needs to work on his offense from the guard.
Speaking of which, that fight epitomizes what is wrong with MMA judges. Diego straight up beat the shit out of Guida for all 3 rounds, and one of the judges wanted to give Guida the win just because he had top position in the last two rounds. He had top position, but didn't do ANY damage and sat in Sanchez's guard fending off submissions and getting the shit elbowed out of him. Sanchez was clearly the one doing damage, and just because Guida was on top on of the judges wanted to give him the win. That my friends is straight up bullshit. I saw the fight 30-26, and I could see giving possibly giving Guida the 3rd round because he did start to counter Sanchez, but that is it.
Hmm I'd give first round Sanchez 10-8, next Guida 10-9, and last Sanchez 10-9.
I think it's because the judges don't only take damage into account, they also take Octagon control. It is also believed that the one on top is the one in control but yeah, I thought Diego was in control the whole fight while Guida just laid there.
Well Diego was doing damage to Guida with the elbows from that position so yeah, I'd call that having control of the action. I'd have called it a 29-27 for Sanchez, the first round was definitely a 10-8. I don't see how anyone could have given the fight to Guida though, especially a judge.
I don't know if any of you watched Ultimate Chaos last night but it was fucking ridiculous. Amazing fights all around.
Yvel looked great, he straight up destroyed Rizzo. And I got MAD respect for Atencio after that fight. He showed great heart, recovering from a beating and two knockdowns in the first round to come back and dominate the second and earning a stoppage between rounds. He came out straight up Chute Box style it was crazy.
Whoa whoa whoa this flew straight under my radar. brb looking up who was on the card and hoping that they have them uploaded on mmalinker.