I'm just curious to see who's voting for who. I don't want this to become a political battleground, so I'm not saying anything about who should vote for who, I just seriously want to know which candidate most of my age group is voting for.
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I'm just curious to see who's voting for who. I don't want this to become a political battleground, so I'm not saying anything about who should vote for who, I just seriously want to know which candidate most of my age group is voting for.
John McCain
Poll is up yo
I chose McCain but it's a trick because economists don't vote
Obama
Where's the Ron Paul option?
He's no longer in the race...Quote:
Originally Posted by KT_
You can still write him in.
I had no option for any write in voting on the ballot I used to vote a few weeks ago... He's just not on the ballot period, so no point in him being there.
(x) Fidel Castro
I am still uncertain of who I am actually voting for.
I can totally understand this, since we haven't known who the candidates are for months, nor have they made a billion speeches on their policy positions already and how they disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadia
I don't remember asking for your opinion Mr.Hairy.Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
My problem is that I agree and disagree with both of them pretty much equally. The only thing I am certain of is that I dislike Palin.
I agreed and disagreed with both sides equally. I was so undecided until Palin was picked as the republican VP candidate, and that made up my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
A vote for a mutt is a vote for sexual perversion.
Don't be hating on the mutts! :ppslash:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Bifford
I chose McCain because he's the best choice.
Not voting for the best choice to lead the country because of their running mate is ridiculously irresponsible.
Greens get my party vote
Jim Anderton gets me local vote.
Oh wait you guys don't care about other countries politics.
can't vote
Ho Chi Minh's got my vote...
Because communism is good?
Also, when you guys made your decision not to vote for McCain because Palin comes across as ditzy, did you not at any point think about the fact that Joe Biden makes her look like a genius?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. E
Well, I wouldn't go that far, but Biden isn't much better. If Obama wins he'll be assassinated in office. Joe Biden will be the president in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by djwolford
You see? I have nothing to back up that last statement, because it is pure useless conjecture, and not a good basis for making a decision. I think you guys see what I'm getting at.
Agreed.
I'm voting for Labour, but that doesn't really matter seeing as I'm in a country other than the USA.
I also am voting for McCain because anyone else would belong in the trash heap..
Obama.
I will be voting for Barack Obama.
My opinion of Palin has nothing to do with this decision, but to compare her intelligence to that of Joe Biden's is simply laughable. She has no concept of foreign policy (Proximity to Russia does not rank on the "I know international affairs" list), luckily, McCain can probably cover that. Her fervent religious beliefs, and the organizations her husband has aligned with (Uhm, American Succession anyone?) are unsettling. Interestingly enough, her aids don't seem to find her enjoyable to deal with.
McCain because they didn't let Ron Paul in.
I voted (early voting) for Bob Barr. I don't necessarily agree with his platform, but I HATE the 2 main party candidate options and he is the only other one on Indiana's ballot besides a write-in... so hopefully others will feel the same as me and Barr's percentage might send a message.
Maybe.
Ron Paul's ideology is fairly removed from the Republican Center as we see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomic
Doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Scarf
You guys are funny
Oh hey, I'm from England. My PM can choose whenever to hold his election as long as it is within 5 years of the last one.. I bet I can do it when my approval rating is high. I'm going to let my political party choose who represents my district even if they aren't from here. Yeah let's do that! Oh hey, it's the House of Lords! Look how useful we are!
Although, I do enjoy your PM debates (White Hall hour is it?) with his shadow cabinet. Actually I absolutely love the Brits.
Yes I know a vote for Barr is "wasted". I have a degree in Political Science so I understand what I did and why.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy
Ron Paul is indeed far FAR removed the Republican Center, as you say. That is because the Republican party is NOT what is says it stands for. It has jumped track years ago and especially now many traditional republicans are jumping ship because they are so pissed off at what the party has become. I am a registered republican and cannot stand the current party. I sincerely hope this election cycle forces it to get back to its roots (which won't ever really happen) or more bluntly, I hope the party completely fails and is forced to rebuild over the next decade.
If I recall, the republicans of yesteryear are the democrats of today (with some fairly subtle changes).
Truth, and vice versa. Explains why republicans freed the blacks and now all the blacks vote democrat.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy
I will not be voting, but if I was, I would vote for my nigga Barack.
And what Republicans freed the blacks? Aside from good ol Abe who really didn't do shit; I believe it was LBJ who actualy did anything for those good for nothin niggers.
If it was just between National and Labour (which it pretty much is) I would vote for Labour, but I think Greens would be good in parliament. I don't think they would handle winning fully, but being one of the largest in there is going to do some good for this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by aspirin
Or I might just vote for the Legalize Marijuana party, they seem like cool guys.
I'm voting for Obama because I agree with more of his policies and campaign tactics than I do with McCain's. I cant vote for someone who runs their campaign like a middle school faggot, bashing their opponent on a personal level rather than a political level. I get at least 4 republican attack ad's in the mail on a daily basis; all attacking on a personal level giving no reason why they are better than the other guy. The ones I get from the democratic party attack on a political level and give a reason why my vote for Obama would be better for my well being. I do however agree with McCain on some policies, but not anywhere near enough to sway me that way.
Also Palin is a freaking twit. Had to throw it out there.
If a government becomes unpopular enough, they'll lose enough MPs in the local elections for the other parties to force an election.
Just fyi
Voting is for losers. I'll be playing some ultimate frisbee that day instead.
Haha, yes, we're the losers.Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeman
You seriously needed a poll to answer this question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kal El
lolparliamentQuote:
Originally Posted by benzss
Yes I did, thank you for asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
The results thusfar of this poll are way different than any other poll I've seen conducted. It's basically showing we really don't know who is going to win the election.
I'm a Socialist, and even though I don't think Obama will be in the socialism fan club, if he's not elected I'm leaving the country. I already hate this country enough, what with being the World Police and all, I want nothing to do with it if we take another 8 steps backwards.
Also;
Voting Obama to keep nosferatu and Kitty Farmer from entering the White House.
Where was the George Bush option?
According to this poll, Obama has about a 30 point lead on McCain... so even though the sample is small, Obama has a clear lead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kal El
And among all 18-20-somethings, this is probably true as well.
To be fair though, Adolf Hitler is quickly coming up from behind :rolleyes:
+1 Maggie Thatcher
The poll was quite a lot fucking closer before I went to bed, which was when I made my last post, and now Obama has the clearest lead. And stop being so serious about a comedy option, Adolf Hitler is a clear comedy option along with Margaret Thatcher. I'm not going to leave the people who can't vote to not be able to participate in the poll for fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
Nathan Petrelli
America love it or leave it you tree molesting hippie! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars
I dream of killing you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengeful Scars
Remember when people were like "If Bush gets reelected then I am leaving the country!" and yet they are still here.....
Yes, they're the same ones that are saying "if McCain gets elected I am leaving the country!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadia
It makes me wish they would just go ahead and go already.
If I had lived with the "I am gonna move if McCain gets elected" mindset, I would have had to move out of Arizona like 10 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by djwolford
I could picture someone leaving Arizona because of McCain's election, only to have to deal with him running for president later on in life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kal El
The thought of it makes me giggle.
McCain isn't horrible, he's a big figure here in AZ and the only reason why I didn't vote for him is I just don't want Palin anywhere near Washington.Quote:
Originally Posted by djwolford
And honestly, regardless of whether he wins or loses the election, I'd still have to deal with him either way. He'll still be Senator here if he loses. So I'm indifferent with him being President, Palin is just scary to me. So is Biden, but I don't see Obama kicking the can anytime soon.
Just curious-- what scares you about Biden?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kal El
Also, I agree that McCain isn't really that bad. Aside from the fact that I agree more with Obama's platform, the reasons why I will absolutely not vote for McCain is because of the strong influence that will be exerted on his administration by the Republican Neo-Cons and Christian Fundamentalists (as is evidenced by his conciliatory choice of Palin as a running mate) and also because Palin in particular scares me.
Two words:Assassination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kal El
I'm trying to upbeat and positive here :pQuote:
Originally Posted by djwolford
I love how McCain is only just infront of Hitler.
On a serious note, I aint a yank and the idea of Palin in that position scares me. When I see clips of her supporters it just...I mean...how is it possible that in this day and age people can still be so fucking stupid and so fucking ignorant/bigotted.
You have to admit that most African-Americans act silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by gismo
Hmm Adolf Hitler and John McCain almost have the same amount of votes, similar? I think so.
Your comments make me laugh. Not because I think you're dumb, but because I know exactly what you mean. A little while ago I was listening to reporters interview Palin supporters and the things they say just blow me away. They were saying something along the lines of supporting her not because they like her views and politics in fact they said they disagree with alot of them but they support her because of her upbeat nature, how she acts and soling because they want a woman in the white house. How the fuck do people think like this even exist. McCain supporters aren't much better either. They are just as ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by gismo
Err...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Bifford
so do a fuckload of white people.
It's mostly the Afrikaans though.Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
What I love the most is how Obama is a terrorist, if you believe the Palin camp. They talk about him being an Arab, muslim etc and...I mean if you go to a political rally, one would assume you would therefore take an interest in politics. I would expect these people to be amongst the least ignorant when it comes to politics.
The reason this poll isn't indicative of the national poll is because on the internet are a disproportionate amount of liberals when compared to the national populace. It also has to do with the population on this website being generally young and poor, as the young and the poor are more likely to vote Democrat.
If this election has proved anything it is that America doesn't know anything about politics, and it sure as hell doesn't know anything about economics. If you care about the economic stability of this country there is only one choice. If you care more about foreign and domestic policy, then things are more open to interpretation.Quote:
Originally Posted by gismo
This is incorrect if you are saying that Palin and McCain believe that he is a Muslim. Only their followers could be so dumb. McCain repeatedly denies claims by the audience that he is a terrorist/Muslim.Quote:
Originally Posted by gismo
And Palin keeps insisting he has ties to them, therefor trying to brand him one as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy
This is true. But at least I can relate and make fun of red necks and such. If I dare make fun of someone with darker skin I'd be labeled a bigot.Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
Damn I cut my penis up real bad.
I'll probably regret asking.....how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolution
As was said, Palin likes to make out like he has links to them. Fair play to McCain for putting people straight, I seen a clip of him telling some old fuck that Obama isn't an Arab. How the fuck did she come to that conclusion?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy
I'd say when it comes to foreign policy, democrat seems like a better option, although I suppose that depends on your individual views. I like the noises coming out of the Obama camp, he recognises that there is a rift between the USA and large parts of the rest of the world and that this is a bad thing. People think the republicans are better for national security, I strongly disagree, I think the current foreign policies probably do a great deal to threaten national security.
I think building bridges instead of burning them is the best way to go, reduce the number of enemies you have. Granted, I am just some internet nerd who knows nothing about this kind of thing, its a pretty simplistic way to look at it, but I don't think bullish isolation can be very helpful. I think Ron Paul hit the nail on the head when it came to this issue.
I don't know how well that would sell though...some of the paranoid bullshit I have heard from some people in America, talking as if they are under constant, terrible danger and that terrorists could strike any minute, when you manage to instil that kind of fear into people I think it spells bad news. Fear and rationality don't make good bed fellows. Fear is what neo con policy tends to build, to the best of my knowledge it is a crucial part of it and, I think (no matter how much you think what I said is bullshit) that those who are scared, aren't rational. Unless you are one of them. And that doesn't bode well for a democracy.
I actually kind of (kind of) liked the McCain of the 2000 run. I can't STAND him this time around, because back in 2000 he stood on his own laurels and fought for what he believed in (which caused him to not get the nomination). This time around though he is playing ball and just doing what he is told to do. I do not care for that at all as it is not a quality of a leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kal El
]THE ECONOMY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN FOREIGN POLICY YOU DUMBFUCKS!!!!
If the economy goes under there won't be an America to have bad foreign relations with other countries.Who cares if Obama has better foreign policy and is more likable? His economic plans our going to drive this country into the ground. Why doesn't anyone care about that?
Oh, and for emphasis
Choosing not to vote for the best person to be president because of his running mate is ridiculously irresponsible!
And don't say McCain is going to die and Palin will be president. That argument is baseless.
I don't know what candidate you are referring to because it certainly isn't Obama or McCain. They both have terrible economic policies. We need to fix things at the root of the problem - the Federal Reserve banking system - but they refuse to even mention that the Fed might even POSSIBLY be part of the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. E
edit (just saw your post above): wow and I even thought you were referring to Obama as the one candidate with good monetary policies. McCain is even worse than Obama - he has admitted in the primary debates that he doesn't know much about economics.
I didn't vote based on that, I just don't want Palin anywhere near Washington. She can stay in Alaska and out of sight and out of mind. I think she's just all around horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. E
Before she was picked I was even divided between Obama and McCain. In the end I just think the Republicans need to be defeated this election so they regroup on their policies and get back to being the party they were.
McCain will get rid of these horrible quota hiring laws.
Was that aimed at anyone in particular? Incase it was, uh huh no shit the economy is way more important. I just chose to talk about 1 issue, not all, that doesn't mean I hold it more important, or am ignorant to the other issues. I will let you off the hook since you are black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. E
fun fact the economy is going in the shitter no matter who is elected president
tmyk
also politics is annoying and i cant wait until this election is over
Fun fact the economy is still down, but pretty much stabilizing. It'll all be ok kids. Now gtfo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzy
I got an idea for helping the economy. Make it so that if someone comes to you wanting a mortgage, loan etc etc, that you have to do checks so that you can be confident in their ability to pay it back. Just a thought.
I think you're on to something there.Quote:
Originally Posted by gismo
I voted for Obama, but I really wanted Kuccinich.
yeah you're right man the problem is already solved just like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by djwolford
what was i thinking
Edit:Removing the a-hole post, and giving another reason to vote McCain instead.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...nts/index.html
lol@"goddess of peace"Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcowski
fix'd your post. No need to thank me.Quote:
Originally Posted by djwolford
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by djwolford
Because this is just the first wave, the housing market and credit crunch.
Guess what? Businesses are not able to take on additional loans to help them through this tough time due to lack of credit availability. People are losing their homes. The Fed has lowered the rate to 1% and may end up having to go to 0%. The 2nd wave of this (which has already started) is going to be massive layoffs and businesses closing. Then of course this will cause a 3rd wave on a global import/export scale because we will not be able to export American-made goods since unemployment is so high, and we cannot afford as many imported goods except from China.
Even if the Fed pumping all of this money into the economy IS going to work, the effects won't be seen for 12-18 months. Until then, we are fucked and getting fucked worse every day.
Fun fact: Did you know that Toyota (with the support of China of course) is in serious talks to buy General Motors? I'll just let that digest, hopefully it will start to stick. Our economic policies of recent history (which are still continuing and not changing as of this day) have royally fucked us.
voted Thatcher
Nader fo sho
also the people voting for hitler are probably going McCainQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. E
OOOOH SNAP!
I don't think the real economy has been hurt too badly in the UK, yet. The amount of money the UK government is prepared to pump into the banking systems is just mind boggling, £500 billion, which is like $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000. The UK national debt is now going to be insane.
Even still, they are reluctant to start lending to businesses and potential home owners. What is the situation like in the US? Unemployment here has jumped, at its highest rate since Labour came into power. And its estimated that it will double by the end of the decade.
I aint an economist and won't pretend to know much on this subject, but am I right in thinking that the main cause of this is essentially greedy city cunts? I seen some ad's from the US offering credit and to be honest, it shocked me. So fucking irresponsible. I hate how these cunts can take such risks, safe in the knowledge that if it goes wrong, someone else will have to deal with it.
Im of the opinion that since tax payers in many countries will be paying the cost, for years to come, shit needs to happen to stop this, even if that means stronger regulation. That might sound retarded, since I don't really understand economics very well (in which case I accept that my views are retarded), maybe a little too reactionary, but I think we can all agree that there is cause for frustration. I am so ignorant of economics that I don't even know if what I am saying is retarded or not lol. But fuck it, its the internet.
Since what happens in the US almost always effects other countries, I hope the next president puts measures in place to try and stop this kind of thing from happening again, remove the incentives for risk that exist and rocks hard.
Has anyone seen conservapedia's article on Obama? They have an entire section dedicated to how he is a muslim, another to how he is a marxist lol and seem to demand he proves his christianity. Another reason I hope Obama wins, I think it should weaken the hold of the christian right. I think this is a good thing for the US.
As is picking picking a running mate who could cause the voters to make that choice. For the people who dislike Palin, McCain's decision to choose her as a running mate is reason enough to question his judgement. From an outside perspective it's pretty obvious that she's been painfully controversial and has probably pleased as many people as she's pissed off, but for those who find her to be absolutely batshit insane it's hard to place faith in the man who willingly selected her to run alongside him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. E
I reckon Palin has cost McCain the election. I don't think he will win and I think she will be a large part of that. I think there is a fair number of people who maybe would have voted McCain but are just too scared to see her likes as vice. It is a legitimate concern. She is almost like a female Bush. Granted she doesn't mince her words like he does but her selection of words are still mind boggling at times. Bush oozes stupidity, she oozes ignorance.
For me, she represents much of what is wrong with the USA.
Northern accents and hockey?Quote:
Originally Posted by gismo
It's not baseless but I agree that it is largely the product of suppositionQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. E
What I am trying to say is that I agree with the sentiment but I am a pedantic cunt
Maybe this will help you decide who to vote for. lol.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t...eAntiObama.png
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Bifford
I love how sections of the pro life movement think that pro choice people want abortions and want to kill unborn children.