Despite the changes I fucking loved it. Rorschach was AMAZINGly well done
I can't even talk about it yet. Discuss ITT and it'll get me going
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Despite the changes I fucking loved it. Rorschach was AMAZINGly well done
I can't even talk about it yet. Discuss ITT and it'll get me going
I could go on about how much I loved this film, but let me describe the atmosphere. It was absolutely fucking perfect; not a gaggle of texting, chatty ass thirteen year old girls in sight. Everyone who came to the 10 pm showing at least was interested in the film, if not a fan of the graphic novel itself.
That being said, I really did enjoy the film. If I had read the graphic novel, I'm sure I could bash it all day long, but I didn't. I also agree with cap'n, Rorschach was such a great character.
I heard that it was simply visual eye-candy more than a quality narrative which is quite the opposite of what Watchmen should be.
TOGS, it was.
There was a lot of needless disgusting gore, as well. Much of it had a point, much was gratuitous.
It was pretty whatever.
It was extremely viscerally pleasingQuote:
Originally Posted by gwahir
It's funny because I was watching an interview and one of the actors was like "It's very adult, but without being gratuitously so".
No noQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy
It was gratuitous
I have very little back story to the whole Watchmen Universe but I loved this movie. It felt just right.
Though there was a little to much unnecessary blue man penis.
I don't want to see only because of the trailer saying "From the visionary director of 300". Anyone can use slow-mo and make everything look orange and brown. I liked 300, but it wasn't that good, so I am sure this movie isn't that good either. I'll wait for a DVD release.
Fucking shit, it was incredible.
Unlike 300, The Watchmen was not over-stylized. I thought it was a great movie except that it was way too long. No film should be 163 minutes and not have an intermission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick2.1
He still is no visionary. I'll still wait for DVD cause I don't feel like spending 11 bucks on a ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by KT.
Wait, there was a scene where Nite Owl's ass is shown thrusting and you're complaining about the gore? Regardless they should have just changed the story and cut some characters so the movie could be almost entirely about the Comedian.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwahir
Oh yeah, I forgot about all the awkward, awkward sex.
For the record, real sex is not pretty. It is a lot of awkward, awkward thrusting and grunting. And then a flame thrower goes off.
Why did they feel the need to have Rorschach 'meat-cleaver' someone to death? I haven't read the novel in a long time but I seem to remember that the kidnapper's demise was slightly less gory in the comic.
All things considered, I thought it was a fairly good adaptation from comic to movie. One of the reasons I went to see it was because I wanted to see how they would do it, and I was pleasantly surprised especially considering I went in with low expectations because of 300.
I really liked the choice of music in the movie. It was an interesting choice of songs, but somehow they always felt appropriate in the scenes they were used in.
i thought that was pretty much the only disgusting violence in the movie that had a point
If I remember correctly he gave the handcuffed guy a saw and set the house on fire. I might be wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crysack
You're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by jack burden
In David Hayter's version of the script, he feeds the guy to his dogs then kills his dogs.
yeah I thought that's how it went down tooQuote:
Originally Posted by jack burden
A lot of movies seem to do that scenario these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by captain castle
Loved the movie. My favorite part of the movie, though I'm embarrassed to say it, is during the prison scene when Rorschach is confronted by that big black guy. When Rorschach grabs that huge vat of hot oil and pours it all over him, I could not help but think of fried chicken. I wouldn't consider myself a racist, but that scene was fucking hilarious.
Stop taking the media so seriously,laughing at stereotypes does not make you a racists.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyollerskates
Speaking of Rorschach, he was by far my favorite character and I felt Jackie Earle Haley did an outstanding job of looking truly disturbed with out the rorschach mask on.
In the way that they change the book, or they mimic Mad Max?Quote:
Originally Posted by jack burden
They really didn't change too much about the book, and the changes, I thought, suited the film medium very well. Some stuff wouldn't have worked on the silver screen. The death of the child murderer needed to be more immediate and visceral, and the changed ending was perfect. The one from the GN just would not have worked. At all.
Shades of Sin City.Quote:
Originally Posted by MalReynolds
Edit: SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
I totally agree actuallyQuote:
Originally Posted by MalReynolds
This was kind of a useless post but whatever
Speak for yourself pencil dick, I slam em hard and make their pussies cum hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by MalReynolds
Movie was cool, but wtf. When I was done I was like "so how is it that all the costumed people in that movie got super strength?" Then I asked someone who actually read the comics and was told only Manhattan had any powers, but that clearly makes no sense. They could all take ridiculous beatings and beat the shit out of concrete walls and be fine. Assuming they do all have super strength and the ability to withstand tons of damage, then the movie is awesome. If they are supposed to be regular people, then that's just stupid as hell because they clearly aren't. No matter how much training someone has, they're still just human.
I had similar thoughts watching it.
In the GN they were all very, very skilled martial artists, but the only people who were exceptionally strong were the Comedian, who was a body-builder gun-nut. Everyone else was just well trained. Rorschach in street combat, Nite Own and SSII in various forms of Tae-Kwan-Do.Spoiler
Ozzy/Veidt was so strong because he, next to Dr. Manhattan, was the only person to have a real 'super' power, and his was complete control over every aspect of his body due to his hyper-intelligence. That's what made him so strong, fast, and capable of catching a bullet - he could calculate, in an instant, the trajectory, speed, and movement of the bullet fast enough to catch it as the gun was firing.
That is all. They were not super people - SSII and Nite Own didn't pick anyone up. Ozzy and Comedian did, but they were strength trained. Dr. M, I mean, he is a super hero.
The only problem that I had with the movie, was that they shortened a lot of the scenes that I thought were pivotal to the character development of some of the characters. For instance, the in-depth psychiatry scenes with Rorschach, which included one of my favorite speeches in the GN. The sex scene I felt was a little unneccesary considering they sped through the scenes of Dr.Manhattan and Janey Slater. Also, the ending kind of annoyed me, I was really hoping that they would have left the ending intact from the GN. I'm not quite sure what the point of making Nite Owl witnesswas. The scene on Mars was really dumbed down too. I enjoyed the movie, I'm guessing the longer cut of the movie will include most of what I've complained about.Spoiler
Also, was I the only one impressed with how well The Comedian was done?
They had Nite Owl watch Rorschach die because they were partners for 10+ years before the events in the movie, and in the GN, no one really knows or cares that Rorschach dies. It was to give his death meaning to someone.
Spoiler tags people?
I mean, I'm not personally bothered, wikipedia ruins enough movies for me anyway and this film looks like a pile of horseshit (like virtually every comic book movie) but common courtesy would be a plus.
I spoilered my first or so post, but then it went on a cluster fuck of spoilertry.
I was more talking about infected7 who gave away several key scenes and the ending.
My only real complaint was the overuse of Nixon. I think the actor was trying to do his worse Nixon impression.
(Okay I have other complaints about the movie.)
My bad, fixed. I assumed that most reading the thread had read GN or seen the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by simonj
The movie was good. Sure it was gorey, but who cares? Sure they changed the end, but the effect and the outcomes were all the same. What people fail to realize is that to reduce Watchmen to even 2 hours 40 minutes and have it not being a steaming piece of dog crap is damn impressive on its own. If you want the GN exactly like the GN was then read the GN. Concessions must be made for the transition of media and I for one think Snyder did a damn fine job.
Oh yeah, and complaining about the realism? Of a comic book movie? Really? It's not realistic that people can be as strong as the Watchmen are? For one, it is (none of them who didn't actually have a super power did anything that couldn't be done with normal human strength potential and a strong knowledge martial arts and the human body); and, for two, it is a movie, not a documentary.
I don't care about realism as long as it isn't trying to be realistic. Which is why I didn't have a problem at all with this movie while watching it, I was like "oh ok this is set in some sort of world where all these people have ridiculous strength and can get the shit beaten out of them and still hardly even notice." So yeah if that's the case, then no problem. But punching through concrete walls like that isn't something I've seen in a human. I can understand in martial arts the easy concrete crap they break through, but not the wall in that movie. Assuming I do believe he could do that and not have it phase him, how about being on the receiving end of those punches and acting like they are about as powerful as a poke?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. E
Anyway yeah, I'll just go with the original interpretation that this is its own movie, and changed the laws of the universe it was based in (assuming it was based in anything resembling realism in the first place). It was a pretty cool superhero movie.
It was a decent movie, but if they had found a way to bust it up into two 2+ hour movies, then they might be able to do the graphic novel justice. But I'm not sure that there is a good "stopping point" halfway through the original story that would make people want to watch the sequel two years later...
Another thing that bothered me was the pronunciation of Rorschach's name. It's a German name, god dammit. ROAR-SHOCK. The "a" is pronounced with a short "o" sound. Not "ROR-SHACK". Not "RAW SHARK"
Rorschach and Comedian were portrayed extremely well. I only wish they played up a little more Rorschach's bad hygiene, as the first and only time it was mentioned was. Dunno if that's even spoiler-worthy.Spoiler
The Comedian was hilarious, exactly as I would expect his comic version to translate to the big screen. A cocky smug asshole who has committed jorrible atrocities in his lifetime, but not necessarily someone you would hate outright.
Hmmm...the only other thing that comes to mind is Silk Spectre I....comic version vs. film version...yeah I think they did good by her in the movie (her young version). I never did like the hair she sported in the comic.
Someone told me that they had to change the Rorschach hacksaw thing because they didn't want uneducated people to accuse them of stealing it from Saw or similar movies.
Enjoyed the movie, and read about the super powers(or lack thereof) And this may be dumb, but how does Rorschach's mask do that.
He was my fav btw.
he got it from some weird material when he worked in a dress shopQuote:
Originally Posted by Infernus
Made for Kitty Genoviese, the lady that got stabbed in her apartment courtyard while people watched...
in real life. Popularized the larged crowd/dissipation of guilt theory where more bystanders=less action due to each party justifying inaction.
I saw this on Saturday(supposed to be imax but it was sold out) and I was surprised. I went into this movie knowing absolutely nothing about it, I didn't even know who any of them were. For the first hour to 45 minutes I had my doubts as to how good a movie this was going to be and I was hoping it wasn't going to be appealing to only comic book nerds. Then I started to get drawn into the story and after I was able to forget about the ridiculous lack of realism and the weird parts in the movie I started to really enjoy it. It was a movie unlike anything I had seen before and I was guessing as to what was going to happen for most of the movie. Some stuff like dr. manhatten's dick just flopping around was unecessary and should have been left out. It was distracting to the audience because it was so unexpected. I mean what happened to the speedo he was wearing before? All in all it was a great movie though and I plan on watching it at least one more time before I really judge it.
He dresses in public, and just goes around nude the rest of the time. It was in the comic and is in line with his character.
Yea but why not change that? It didn't appear to have any significant meaning to the story and it was obviously going to produce a reaction from people. Attention was unnecessarily drawn away from the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by MalReynolds
I don't believe it was. I think if you clothed the guy that can see everything in space/time, it would raise a great deal of questions. If I ever meet God, I fully expect him to be nude. Clothing was invented by humans for warmth, and as he has no need for any of that shenanigans, I wouldn't really see him putting on clothes due to the impractical nature of them. That's why he dresses around everyone else, so as not to disturb them.
If he wore a suit to a press conference, then a speedo everywhere else, it would be highly distracting and raise more questions: Why does he wear a speedo when no one is around? It covers his modesty, so why not just wear it all the time, like out in public, to press conferences? Is he secretly gay? I don't think the niduty took away from anything.
... if anything, the female nudity did. What an awkward sex scene. I mean, yeah, that's how I imagined it would be - Night Owl/Dan isn't really... buff. Or fit. And Silk Specter is emotionally detached.
Yea I agree with you in that a being of his caliber would definitely be nude. I mean when I saw manhatten rock out with his cock out the first time I was caught by surprise. Then i got confused as to why he switched between speedos and being naked because he was definitely nude plenty of times when he was around other people so the whole speedo being on sometimes threw me off. I understand that at press conferences he would wear a suit, that makes sense. My biggest problem with it was that I had to hear other people talking about it throughout the movie. Oh and don't even get me started on that sex scene, it was the most awkward point in the movie and yea it might have seemed real but fuck that was awkward.
I ended up doing that thing where I almost got into a fight because I'm terrible at movies and will give the talkers a piece of my mind.
They kept laughing at the dick, and going, "Wow, penis."
And I just turned around, and said, "Never seen one of those before? Feel bad for your girlfriend."
There was a pause as he tried to think of something to say, and I just finished it with, "Don't worry, won't be the only cock that you'll see up close."
Guy got pissed, but luckily he ended up being a friend of the guy I was with. I would have hated to have to run away, as I'm not very fast kick some ASS.
Read the graphic novel and didn't understand how or why they would make this into a movie. Yeah, it looks great and probably made a load of money, but there was too much for it to be a movie and I fell asleep after an hour and a half.
Gonna watch it heard it was all gore tho
Some people just really want to see big blue cock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killuminati
Since we're talking about blue dicks i was reading this cracked article and found this paragraph hilarious.
Heres the full article.Quote:
Silk Spectre bends over to pick up a scrap. I see her lower butt. A lower butt of sin, no doubt. Rotten with the stink of a thousand men rutting in the dark. Dr. Manhattan brushes by me on the way out. His blue dick touched my hand. Does this make me gay? Am I now lustful, corrupted with a sick desire for the penis of a strange blue nuclear emperor? Realize he is god-like being, far beyond human conventions, but he could at least put a sock on it. Just courtesy. But courtesy is a lost child crying on the stoop, abandoned by its teenage whore of a mother.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/rorschac...-boring-night/
lolzQuote:
Originally Posted by jack burden