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Would it be worth it to swap an Olympic Plinker Plus + $430 for a Del-Ton? Both rifles are bone stock, brand new. The Olympic is a carry handle upper, all-plastic handguards, collapsible stock. The Del-Ton is a flattop, steel-lined handguards, same collapsible stock.
$430 seems a little steep. Only major difference is the flat top.
Dont you already have a flat top receiver?
Yes, but the problem is theres a serious gap at the buffer. This is causing my buffer to hit the buffer detent when it cycles, creating some nasty damage to my buffer face and it'll eventually destroy the detent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous D
I could just remove the detent, but I'd rather have all my parts there =\.
IDK. For $430 you could build a complete lower, and still have money left over.
Do you have BRD yet?
You make a very good point. Actually, I could just get a stripped lower and the parts from my Oly lower.
Whats a BRD?
Black Rifle Disease, an addiction to buying and tinkering with ARs.
And yeah, this is kind of a bum deal. Del-ton is better quality than Oly, but $430 plus your Oly is too much.
No... No, of course not... Who told you that?:shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Syme
Yeah after thinking it through I realized I am taking a significant beating on this deal... So I might just have to buy the Del-ton outright. :P I'm trying to get my dad to buy my Oly anyways.
I sold a gun once. I got it for free, and I sold it to my best friend, so I still shoot it alot, but I decided Im necer selling another gun.
Whys that? Just because of the fact that you still shoot it a lot? Hell, that'd be more incentive for me to sell it. Get my money out of it AND still use it frequently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous D
Also, my dad is definitely buying it and I've got the Del-Ton on hold :D. So overall its only costing me $200 for the DTI. Not a bad gig IMO.
I just dont like selling guns. If I do sell one again, it will be my Kel Tec P11. Dont really care for it much.
Lol I changed my mind again anyways. My dad is still buying my Oly, but instead of buying the DTI, I'm building an AR for less. Its going to be a Red River Tactical lower (I really have no preference on lowers, so I figured I'd go with one with a badass rollmark :D ) and the upper is going to be a Rock River Arms kit. The kit is only $655 and comes with everything from a milspec buffer tube to a LPK. Total price should run me about $800 and I'll have to wait a while, but I'll be getting a quality rifle in the long run.
Trust me, I know plenty about changing my mind with this stuff.
I think Ive heard of Red River Tactical, and if Im correct, I heard good things. And they do have a pretty sweet lower engraving. And RRA makes really good stuff.
I need to find a Mil Spec buffer setup for my next AR. Im thinking about putting a VLTOR Emod stock on it. And Id prefer to keep it mil spec since thats what my other AR has.
I'm not sure what kind of stock I want to put on this one, but I know I'm going to build this one right and use quality parts. I'm starting to love the Magpul UBR, but a CTR would be a much easier and less expensive replacement. And I've pretty much definitely decided on the Daniel Defense Omega rail for a free float. I love how simply it installs and still allows me to keep my delta ring.
I have the Omega Rail. If you are willing to spend that much on a rail, spend the money and get the UBR. Id love to get that one, and I may. I like how the cheek weld never changes. I wish they still had the older version of the UBR. It was sweet.
Im definitely gonna get the VLTOR rail system on my new AR though.
Just orderd my RRT lower, got a RRA M4 upper with a preinstalled YHM free float on hold for me. Now I just need to find a BCG (I think I'm going to invest in a Young chrome BCG) and an LPK. Who's a good LPK to go with?
I am so fucking pumped to build this thing.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I'll need a stock too. I'm still leaning towards the UBR. And my new Matech BUIS that I scored for $40 should be in the mail shortly :D.
Get the young chrome BCG. Im gonna get that for my SBR.
As far as LPK, just get what you can. I ended up having to pay almost $100 on gunbroker for a $70 DPMS kit.
Bleh, thats a little disheartening. Hopefully the FFL I'm picking up my lower from will have some LPK's in stock at a reasonable price when I go to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous D
Let me know if you can find any for a normal price. Ill probably pick up one or two.
Supposedly RRA has them in stock right now, and they're $70. I'm not sure of the validity of that though, because there are still people who ordered them back in Dec waiting for them, but for some reason people that placed an order just last week are already getting them.
EDIT: wewt
Lower being delivered today. Upper should be here hopefully by the 20th (http://ee.ar15.com/uploadImages/2009...12500_File.JPG). After that, all I'll need is a BCG and an LPK and I'll be back in action.
Hellz yeah, LMT BCG's in stock at Denny's. Just ordered one for $152 shipped priority. Can't beat that, especially for not having to deal with Gunbrokers inflated prices nor P2P bullshit.
Fuccccckkkkkkkkk
I wish I got paid tomorrow... BCM uppers in stock right now for fucking $475. Hopefully there will be more around by the time I get the cashola. If not, I'll still be happy with the RRA.
You just got paid Monday, spend it already? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by srsinternets
Hey man, I'm still an E-nothing. Money goes quick. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by fm2176
EDIT: Sweet, got my buffer tube kit in today. Just one step closer.
I've gotta say I am VERY impressed with this buffer tube, especially for being civilian and not milspec. It is the absolute tightest fit I have ever seen. Its literally just as tight as the Magpul CTR; not a bit of play at all. This is a Command Arms stock I had, so I didn't drop anywhere near the coin I would've dropped on a CTR.
EDIT2: Whoo... I might have a brand new LMT 14.5" upper coming to me instead...
Got my LMT BCG yesterday. Very nice piece of work.
Ran into a hiccup picking up my lower, so long story short it now has to be sent back to Texas, then here again.
Man I am raping my own thread.
The .mil store down the road just got a couple HUGE shipments of milsurp 5.56. The only thing is they're 200 for $130. Thats nearly 70 cents a round. :(
And if I remember right its still all only 55gr, save for a couple boxes of 62.
Too much. I would never pay that much for ammo. Atleast not now. Go to www.ammunitiontogo.com
I ordered 500 rounds of silver bear 62 gr JHP for under 200 shipped.
Holy shit. 1k Silver Bear Hollow Points for $330.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous D
1k Brown Bear FMJ's is $300 right now, and brown is only 55gr. The silver HP is 62. wewt
Make sure you get it soon, they usually dont have it in stock long.
So fuckin' excited.
Magpul MIAD, PMags, Troy single point sling, sling plate, RRA lower parts kit and CH, and my lower are all in the mail. Once it all gets here all I will need is my upper and my AR is already done.
Fuck.
Yeah.
EDIT: I think I'm going to save my pennies a little longer than I was planning and invest in a Noveske upper, or maybe a Spikes Tactical Cold Hammer Forged.
Noveske has a massive waiting list ATM, I've heard
Yeah, I wouldn't order shit directly from Noveske, their waiting list is super long
Get an LMT upper :sole:
I wouldn't be ordering direct. Bravo Company has (and has had for a loooong time now) Noveske 14.5" upper in stock.
LMT is definitely on my list too.
Any idea as far as optics goes?
Not sure yet. I'd love to invest in an ACOG, I've used my friends and its an awesome optic. Its just that I'm not sure if I could bring myself to spend more on my optics than I did on my damn rifle. I'm pretty certain I'll at least be buy an Eotech, just not sure which model. Preferably something that uses AA's.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrangeTimes
While watching Deadliest Warrior today on Spike, they mentioned that the AR-15 is gun of choice for the IRA. I thought that was an interesting fact.
I'd agree that an ACOG would be a good buy (then again it's not my money), Trijicon really has their shit together. If you're feeling like a baller you can get their bling bling model-Quote:
Originally Posted by srsinternets
http://www.floridagunexchange.com/im...rita31ecos.jpg
dolla dolla bill ya'll!
Yeah, during the 1970s, it was the one of the easiest automatic rifle for IRA operatives/gunrunners in America to buy and ship to Ireland. The AR-18 was also popular. There are probably still big caches of Armalites buried in various places around northern Ireland today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinysides
I had an ACOG on my M4 at my last unit. I last zeroed it in 2005, and only had to confirm the zero every time we went to the range until I left the unit last December. It was great, and I would usually shoot 37-39 out of 40 with it. I always pulled at least one shot so never qualified with a perfect 40. My lowest qualification with it came from a bad magazine. Had a double feed, cleared it, had another one, removed the magazine and stomped it into the dirt while doing a tactical reload and still hit 29. The ACOG in StrangeTimes post seems like a good idea, but for reflexive fire and MOUT I'd just look over the sight and down the barrel. Same when my squad leader had me practicing reflective fire with an M145 MGO on top of my M249 SAW. You haven't lived until you are swinging a twenty-plus pound light machine up for a quick burst at ten meters.Quote:
Originally Posted by srsinternets
I'd never dump that much into an ACOG. I have no need for a back up reflex sight, if I'm running iron BUIS at absolute co-witness.
If only I were dishonest (and they weren't kept track of by serial number) I'd have had an ACOG, or at least an M68, er, I mean CompM2, for my own AR by now. ;)
Hey, optics get shot off of guns and disintegrate all the time...Quote:
Originally Posted by fm2176
:p
I tried convincing my buddy in the Marines to bring me back some sort of optic. Preferably an ACOG. But he refused. lol
I just got my rear Magpul MBUS in so now I have a full set. I am thinking about getting rid of the red dot and putting a 1-4x scope on it on a LaRue QD mount though.
I don't think stealing (or "losing") $1200 of Uncle Sam's money would go over to well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous D
Everything but my lower is in the mail today. I should be receiving my LPK, sling, sling plate, MIAD, PMags, charging handle all today, and possibly me lower. If my lower isn't in today it will definitely be here tomorrow.
Get a short dot...you know you want toQuote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous D
A what?Quote:
Originally Posted by StrangeTimes
http://sgcusa.com/Elite-Gear/c170/p3...duct_info.html
lol I was joking, $2600 for a scope is nuts
jesus christ it'd take you 100 years just to set up the shot with that thing
it's pretty popular with SF dudes from what I hear
http://www.hkpro.com/416iraqladder.jpg
here's a picture with OMFGDELTA using it
??? You put the crosshairs over the target, then pull the trigger. Scopes like this are extremely quick to acquire with, often even more so than with iron sights.Quote:
Originally Posted by faesce
oh damn thats actually a lot cooler than i thought
considering i know nothing about scopes i though you had to manually configure each stop like some dated telescope lol
That looks pretty overprices for a illuminated short range scope.
I don't know much about that particular model, but scope price generally reflects stuff like impact/shock resistance, optical quality, and so forth. Whether or not it's worth it in practical terms will probably depend on whether you're in motherfucking Delta Force or whatever, but in terms of sheer quality, I'd assume that scope is probably worth it's price. Generally speaking, Schmidt & Benders definitely are.
There's a knockoff of it somewhere, I can't remember the name off the top of my head
EDIT: got it- http://www.opticsplanet.net/barska-1...e-ac10018.html
it's only 1.25 though...:p
Looks more like regular Infantry. I've never seen SFOD-Delta guys dressed like regular ground pounders complete with combat patches. That, and those guys seem to be wearing regular Interceptors instead of the super high speed plate carriers most of SF seem to wear. Not to mention the old school breaching ladder; it's so 2001. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by StrangeTimes
Yeah, it's a bit hard to make out, but it looks like the guy going over the wall has a 101st Airborne patch on his velcro.
Yep, thats definitely a screamin' eagle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syme
Guy in front is the CAG (Combined Applications Group aka new name for delta) guy, he has a Paraclete RAV on not to mention an HK416, ANVIS nightvision mount and I'm pretty sure that's a PEQ15 (before they got common)
the other two are 101 guys IIRC
edit: thx syme <3
Do you mean.... Combat Applications Group? Combat Applications Group is one of the names by which Delta Force is known, but it's not new, and to the best of my knowledge, they have not received a new designation recently; they are still officially the 1st SFOD-D. I'm pretty sure the term "Combined Assault Group" is not in use for any US military unit.
That's the one. I couldn't remember what the A was :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Syme
Sure he's CAG? He might be an Asymmetric Warfare Group adviser. I've never seen Delta guys intermingling with regular forces. The ones we worked with in Iraq were given a pinpoint task while the rest of us acted as a cordon and search element. Then again, the war and forces in Iraq are completely different now than when I was over there. Hopefully we'll be out of Iraq by the time I get done here, but Afghanistan is still looking promising for me. Hell, at this rate Iran or North Korea might be my next destination.
It's a definite possibility I suppose, the ANVIS, 416, and RAV would fit the bill for that
How can you tell its a 416?
Red S/A/F markings, white trades near the magwell, rail system, front flipdown sight
I cant even see any of that except the white on the magwell. And Ive seen tons of ARs that look like that from a distance. Im not saying its not a 416, but it might be something else.
http://www.hkpro.com/416iraqladder.jpg
That's the URL too ;)
Ahhhhhh
Guys guys guys, theres more important business at hand here.
MY FUCKING LOWER CAME IN TODAY!
I've got everything in the LPK installed except the trigger guard and bolt release, because I couldn't find my vice grips so I need to go pick up a set. This thing is so nice. Mega definitely makes some of the best lowers around. The quality and finish is outstanding. Pics to come tomorrow.
next order of business: buy a tax stamp and hit up gemtech :)
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Originally Posted by StrangeTimes
I'd like to SBR it first, but that will probably be a while.
EDIT: If I can ever find one anywhere, I'd like to get a 13.7" Noveske with a pinned KX3. I'd be happy with that instead of an SBR.
My BOHICA lower will be a registered SBR. Once I get it in Ill start the process. I plan on getting the VLTOR EMOD stock, VLTOR fore end, VLTOR MUR upper, and a 10.5 in bbl with a Noveske flaming pig on the end, Im not sure for the optics, but Ill probably get something like an Aimpoint Micro.
Damn, you guys... This thing is beautiful... I'm crying.
No but seriously this lower is fucking mint. And the RRA LPK is awesome, spectacular quality. I'll get some pics up later.
What makes it though, is the fact that I assembled it. It reminds me of Lego sets I used to get when I was a kid... I was so proud of them after I built it.