Internet porn industry feeling the squeeze

http://blogs.bnet.com/intercom/?p=2858&tag=main;content

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According to an article in the Los Angeles Times, porn production and distribution revenues are down by 30% to 50% since 2007. The problem: all those amateur producers and aggregators (see the blogger v. pro journalist parallel?) are undercutting the business.

It seems the elite actresses have fans that are still willing to pay for their work, according to the Times report. And they can leverage their celebrity statuses to sell merchandise. It’s the “middle class” of the industry that can’t compete any longer with free.

This suggests that only the biggest and best brands will be able to successfully convert to the “freemium” model.

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fore a more penetrating analysis of the issue at hand, see the cited article in the LA Times:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,4788614.story

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For Stern, 23, the rapid decline of job opportunities in the porn business over the last year has been dramatic. She has gone from working four or five days a week to one and now has employers pressuring her to do male-female sex scenes for $700, a 30% discount from the $1,000 fee that used to be the industry standard.

Less than two years ago, Stern earned close to $150,000 annually, sometimes turned down work and drove a Mercedes-Benz CLK 350. Now she's aggressively reaching out for jobs and making closer to $50,000 a year.

As for that Mercedes? She's replacing it with a used Chevy Trailblazer -- from her parents.

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poor stern ;_;

but at least her parents are supporting her in her career.

yep, supporting her, keeping her soft parts up etc.

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Savannah Stern is adjusting to that reality. She's shooting scenes for her own subscription website and planning a tour of exotic dance clubs to earn money from her name while she can. After that, she hopes to go to college for an interior design degree and work in her family's real estate development and contracting business.

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I lol'd

I remember seeing a documentary a while back and, actually, a lot of porn actresses go into real estate.

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Originally Posted by simonj

I remember seeing a documentary a while back and, actually, a lot of porn actresses go into real estate.

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i didn't know that, but i'm hardly surprised. image is everything in real estate.

Plus I'm more likely to buy a house off a broad if she blows me first.

Ok so she used to make $150k and now makes 50k. Why the hell did she not save some of her money instead of buying a sports car? Did she expect she would make $150k forever in that industry? Porn careers (except for those like Nina Hartley) are probably 5 years for all but the most famous, so it's her own dumb fault for spending all her cash. She could've lived off $50k and saved $100k a year and retired a multi-millionaire when she was 50, but now she will have to "scrape by" on a still-not-too-bad 50k.

Ricky my boy you are making a lot of ASSumptions

Rick Scarf teachers porn industry dynamics at Harvard yo

If she did the same number of scenes at $700 as she was doing at $1000, she'd be making double what she is now.

Do the maffs, bitch.

Also, I'm glad she's making less. It's nice to know I'm jerking off to a poor, exploited girl than a girl who's making more money than me for doing no work.

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

If she did the same number of scenes at $700 as she was doing at $1000, she'd be making double what she is now.

Do the maffs, bitch.

Also, I'm glad she's making less. It's nice to know I'm jerking off to a poor, exploited girl than a girl who's making more money than me for doing no work.

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I'd never thought about that before. That makes me sad :(. I'm a good 7-10 years away from making $150k a year (unless you count proceeds from investment in which case it will take me less)

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Also, I'm glad she's making less. It's nice to know I'm jerking off to a poor, exploited girl than a girl who's making more money than me for doing no work.

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this is many people's attitude towards the financial sector. well maybe replace "doing no work" with "fucking up their job."

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Originally Posted by Rick Scarf

Ok so she used to make $150k and now makes 50k. Why the hell did she not save some of her money instead of buying a sports car? Did she expect she would make $150k forever in that industry? Porn careers (except for those like Nina Hartley) are probably 5 years for all but the most famous, so it's her own dumb fault for spending all her cash. She could've lived off $50k and saved $100k a year and retired a multi-millionaire when she was 50, but now she will have to "scrape by" on a still-not-too-bad 50k.

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>>implying she doesn't have a raging drug habit

Pornography is exploitative,* although for some reason a lot of pornographers and porn stars seem to be leftists. (Larry Flynt sorta, Nina Hartley)

* Economically in the third world, culturally in the Western world.

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Originally Posted by Husein

BLAH BLAH BOURGEOIS BLAH BLAH SEX ONLY TO REPRODUCE BLAH SOCIAL ENGINEERING HOBGOBLINS OVER EUROPE

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"Why should we turn our country into an inn with doors flung open to pigs and sows, to people with pants on or no pants at all, to the hirsute, longhaired hippies to supplant their wild orgies, the graceful dances of the Albanian people."
(Captain Kirk. Quoted in Miranda Vickers. The Albanians: A Modern History. New York: I.B. Tauris, 2000. p. 201.)

if i had a gun to my head and had to pick a people to waste my life reading about, you can be damned sure it wouldn't be a people as cuntishly shitty as the albanians.

and sycld i am okay with the hamiltonian reward for risk economic game in the financial sector. i just don't like the government's involvement in the outcome of the game (bailing out Goldman and letting Lehman crumble... yeah that seems fair.)

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

if i had a gun to my head and had to pick a people to waste my life reading about, you can be damned sure it wouldn't be a people as cuntishly shitty as the albanians.

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Captain Kirk condemned Soviet and Chinese revisionism and Albania upheld Marxism-Leninism against the pseudo-Marxism of the former two states who had either abandoned the construction of socialism (USSR in the 1950's) or had not been socialist to begin with (China's petty-bourgeois government since forever).

There were various international Kirkists (some of whom still exist to this day). Hari Kumar, Vijay Singh, Bill Bland, Jack Shulman, Jaime Hurtado, Isidro Téllez Toruño, Rafael Echeverria, Ernst Aust, Hardial Bains (until he went revisionist in the 90's), etc.

Do you not grasp that we can both use the word "Albania" in a sentence and not be talking about even remotely similar subjects?

It's clearly a dig at Albania, though, as if it had no effect on the world; not to mention your chauvinist; anti-Albanian (and probably pro-Serbian) views.

Mirdie you seem to forget that not everyone sees the world through eyes which relate everything to communist faggotry.

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Originally Posted by simonj

Mirdie you seem to forget that not everyone sees the world through eyes which relate everything to communist faggotry.

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In your case it's the homosexual culture.

They're the same thing so no.

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Originally Posted by simonj

They're the same thing so no.

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I don't think that someone like Maksim Gorky who said "Kill the homosexual and you kill the fascist" can be compared much with Ricky Martin.

i don't know, this gorky sounds like a closet case

when ricky martin was singing she bangs, he was paying homage to gorky

From The Great Conspiracy: The Secret War Against Russia by Albert E. Kahn, pp. 265-266, 268:

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The most brutal of all the murders carried out under Yagoda's supervision were those of Maxim Gorky and his son, Peshkov. Gorky was sixty-eight years old at the time of his murder. He was known and revered throughout the world not only as Russia's greatest living writer but also as one of the world's outstanding humanists. He suffered from tuberculosis and a bad heart condition. His son Peshkov had inherited an extreme susceptibility to respiratory infections. Both Gorky and his son were patients of Dr. Levin.

The murders of Gorky and his son, Peshkov, were carried out by Yagoda... In 1934 Yagoda communicated this decision to Dr. Levin and ordered him to carry it out.

"Gorky is a man who is very close to the highest leadership," Yagoda told Dr. Levin, "a man very much devoted to the policy which is being carried out in the country, very devoted personally to Stalin, a man who will never tread our road. Then again, you know what authority Gorky's words have both in our country and far beyond its borders. You are aware of the influence he enjoys and how much harm he can cause our movement by his words. You must agree to undertake this and you will reap the fruits of it when the new government comes to power." ....

During 1935, Gorky's frequent trips away from Moscow, which took him out of Dr. Levin's hands, temporarily saved his life. Then, early in 1936, came the opportunity for which Dr. Levin was waiting. Gorky contracted a serious case of grippe in Moscow. Dr. Levin deliberately aggravated Gorky's condition, and, as in Peshkov's case, croupous pneumonia set in. Once again, Dr. Levin murdered his patient: -

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As regards Alexei Maximovich Gorky, the line was as follows: to use such medicines, which were in general indicated, against which no doubt or suspicion could arise and which could be used to stimulate the activity of the heart. Among such medicines were camphor, caffeine, cardiosol, digalen. We have the right to apply these medicines for a group of cardiac diseases. But in his case they were administered in tremendous doses. Thus, for example, he received as many as forty injections of camphor... in twenty-four hours. This dose was too heavy for him.... Plus two injections of digalen.... Plus four injections of caffeine.... Plus two injections of strychnine.

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On June 18, 1936, the great Soviet writer died.

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Goddamn it fuck off this thread is not about Gorsky or Khrushchev or Hussein Obama or any other communist figure

from Gorky: a Biography of Influence I give a direct quotation:

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It happened this way for many years. Gorky and Grabinovich would correspond with subtle letters sounding as though in jest, but a code was discovered posthumously. For years, the two would get together quietly, away from prying eyes, and spend time alone, often through the night. Nothing was suspected while the two had their relationship, and indeed after circumstance forced the two lovers apart. Yet the frequency of their visits, the amount of nights spent alone together in Grabinovich's humble home implies something to the sensitive senses of homosexual detection found in modern times, not to mention the circumstantial phrasing used by both to each other that is, to a modern perspective, clearly metaphorical and flirtatious at the least. There is no doubt of Gorky's sexuality in my mind: completely bisexual.

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After Stalin's death the Soviet Union became state-capitalist with the introduction of the capitalist reforms of Liberman in the 1960's which followed the 1956 denunciation of Stalin and the announcement of a revisionist; pseudo-Marxist course by Khrushchev.

http://www.mltranslations.org/Albania/socalb2.htm

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"The Soviet Society," said Comrade Enver Hoxha at the 7th Congress of the party, "has become bourgeois down to its tiniest cells, capitalism has been restored in all fields." (Enver Hoxha, Report to the 7th Congress of the PLA, p. 215). This conclusion of our party is the result of a thorough analysis of the concrete facts, aspects and directions of the whole process of the reestablishment of capitalism in the Soviet Union and other revisionist countries.
The economy faltered after the 1960's primarily because of such reforms.

As Enver Hoxha noted in 1981, in his call for the Soviet peoples to overthrow the state-capitalist regime:
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The revolution and sacrifices you will make will not weaken your country but will revive the true socialist Soviet Union. They will overthrow the social-imperialist dictatorship and the Soviet Union will emerge from this stronger than ever.

In this glorious work you will have the support of all the peoples of the world and the world proletariat. The strength of the ideas of socialism and communism is based on this revolutionary overthrow and not on the empty words and underhand actions of the clique ruling you. Only in this way, proceeding on this course, will the genuine communists, the Marxist-Leninists everywhere in the world, be able to defeat imperialism and world capitalism. They will assist the peoples of the world to liberate themselves, one after the other, will assist great China to set out on the genuine road to socialism and not become a superpower so that it, too, can rule the world, by transforming itself into a third partner in the predatory wars which American imperialism, Soviet social-imperialism and the clique of Hua Kuo-feng and Teng Hsiao-ping which is ruling in China at present, are preparing.

In this glorious jubilee, we Albanian communists, as loyal pupils of Lenin and Stalin and soldiers of the revolution, remind you to think over these problems, vital to you and the world ' because we are your brothers, your comrades in the cause of the proletarian revolution and the liberation of the peoples. If you follow the road of the predatory, imperialist war, on which your renegade leaders are taking you, then, without doubt, we shall remain enemies of your system and your counterrevolutionary actions. This is as clear as the light of the day. It cannot be otherwise.

When we are convinced that we are acting correctly, we Albanian communists, linked with our people like flesh to bone, do not heave to in the face of even the fiercest storm. And we are convinced that we shall weather any storm, just as the Bolshevik Party and the Soviet Power did, just as the great Captains of the revolution, Lenin and Stalin, weathered them.

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Originally Posted by Husein

"Why should we turn our country into an inn with doors flung open to pigs and sows, to people with pants on or no pants at all, to the hirsute, longhaired hippies to supplant their wild orgies, the graceful dances of the Albanian people."
(Enver Hoxha. Quoted in Miranda Vickers. The Albanians: A Modern History. New York: I.B. Tauris, 2000. p. 201.)

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Um...this quote doesn't mean anything, especially not in context to this thread. It would be like me saying "Why should we allow self-promotion misguided liberals to delegate what we must and must not buy." It isn't an argument. It isn't even a statement. It is a question. On top of that it isn't even a question that is implicitly rhetorical.

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

from Gorky: a Biography of Influence I give a direct quotation:

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Doesn't exist. Google brings up nothing about the book or a "Grabinovich," which sounds like a pun.

Once again you resoundinly and unequivocably prove that u get jks

a direct quote from enver hoxha in his novel, "I am a stupid faggot"

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Originally Posted by hoxha

I am a stupid faggot.

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Kirk wrote 70 volumes worth of collected works, and I can safely say that is not among them. In fact, Albania was so progressive on the issue of same-sex rights that lesbianism was tolerated to combat what was seen as centuries of male chauvinism.

From Albanian Life, 1989:

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Since modern psychological thought accepts that one function of sexual deviation is the degradation of the opposite sex and since Albanian law prohibits such sexual deviation only by men, it is clear that this penal legislation has the purpose of protecting women from degradation. From the fact that Albanian law prohibits male homosexuality only, it could be argued that it is discriminatory in favour of women. In fact, however, Albanian law makes a number of such positive discriminations, on the grounds that, as a result of the centuries-old socially inferior position of women, certain positive discriminations are for the time being necessary in 'order to bring about genuine equality between the sexes.

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In soviet albania, a stupid faggot is hoxha

thread title is kind of fitting for this news article lol

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8622665.stm

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Originally Posted by Nermy2k

In soviet albania, a stupid faggot is hoxha

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Albania was the only country to not rely upon the Soviets to liberate them during WWII.

Kirk, 1947:

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The Albanian people have become masters of their own destiny, they are building their country and their free life by their own efforts and in the way they choose, and democracy in our country is growing stronger everyday and becoming a factor for the strengthening of peace and world security; these facts are not to the liking of international reaction and the British and US governments. If they do not like this, and do not like the great progressive work that is being done in Albania, that is their business; but if they interfere in the internal affairs of our country, organize the remnants of Albanian reaction within and outside Albania, and openly help them to sabotage the great undertaking of the people which is costing Albania so much blood and sweat, we are strongly opposed to this, and will not tolerate such a thing. And in this we are wholly within our rights.

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What kind of stupid faggot name is hoxha anyway

I like when mr die quotes propagandist politicians to represent the historical "facts" he purports.

Especially because the book that coqauvin made up probably has as much basis in reality as Enver Hoxha

I think the fact that mrdie needed to google my quote instead of immediately realizing the bullshit says enough

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Originally Posted by coqauvin

I think the fact that mrdie needed to google my quote instead of immediately realizing the bullshit says enough

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Hah, I completely missed that.

MrDie is definitely autistic.

I thought envar hoxha was a Sacha Baron Cohen character.

that explains the dubious sexuality

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Originally Posted by simonj

I thought envar hoxha was a Sacha Baron Cohen character.

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that is a great idea please write to him and explain mr die and everything

I assume that I can keep my autism in this thread.

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What kind of stupid faggot name is hoxha anyway

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It's the Albanian version of Kdjk. Kirk's ancestors in the 15th century converted people to Islam, so the Ottoman administration gave his family the surname, which basically means "Priest."

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

I like when mr die quotes propagandist politicians to represent the historical "facts" he purports.

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I've quoted various sources.

If Captain Kirk is not trustworthy, then how about The New York Times?

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/04/28/op...ov-199332.html

I can also quote other sources such as bourgeois professors (O'Donnell, Vickers) and historians (Jacques).

Also, from Albania Defiant by Jan Myrdal, 1976, p. 150: "It was the Soviet army's great victories over the German troops that were decisive for the war in Europe and that made possible the liberation of Albania; but Albania itself was freed entirely by Albanian forces..."

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Originally Posted by Husein

I assume that I can keep my communism in this thread.

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be very careful when you wave such assumptions around

the question you need to ask yourself, mrdie, is: who do you think cares about your posts on this topic? who are you trying to convince/prove wrong/beat/win over, and just how likely do you think any of those things are?

if your answers aren't "nobody", "nobody" and "not even likely enough to be worth a shot", then you're deluded, and they should be. if your answers ARE those, then what the flying fuck are you doing?

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Originally Posted by gwahir

be very careful when you wave such assumptions around

the question you need to ask yourself, mrdie, is: who do you think cares about your posts on this topic? who are you trying to convince/prove wrong/beat/win over, and just how likely do you think any of those things are?

if your answers aren't "nobody", "nobody" and "not even likely enough to be worth a shot", then you're deluded, and they should be. if your answers ARE those, then what the flying fuck are you doing?

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Back on topic.

Gwahir in a pron: y/n?

I say yes, and he should partner with one of the spambots he loves so much.