Coq's Mafia Madness v.2.98 (beta)! GAME OVER: Cassette Tape Mafia Wins!

Flavour!

Oh no! It's happening again! CompactDiscVille, once a peaceful hamlet heavily involved in plastic and music manufactury has recently come under Mafia control. Before, 10 people lived in harmony. Now, 9 people live in fearful suspicion of each other when TIDUS [ASS-WEIGHT TO OPERATE PLASTIC PRESS] was found in a pool of his own blood and lard, greasing up the city square and causing a 9 car pile-up as everyone tried to get to work. Upon investigation, he was found with several stab wounds, several gun wounds, a garrotte around his neck and blunt force trauma all over his body. Who could have done this? In CDV, everyone had a motive, everyone is a suspect and people are gonna die until the threat is eliminated.

Rules!

General rules apply. During the day phase, a majority vote causes a lynch which reveals a role and ends the day phase. There is a time limit on how long the Day phase may last, decided by me arbitrarily. Basically, as long as there is discussion and activity, the Day will go on until a lynch. If the game loses activity, I will set a deadline to restimulate the playing. If a day is just taking too long because you're all wishy-washy pansies, I'll just set a deadline.

At night, night actions are submitted and resolved by the GM with the results posted when everyone has acted, bringing the Day Phase back. The hard time limit for night actions will be 24 hours. Since you are required to make one post per day, you can send in a night action when you check the thread. I don't want this game just sputtering out.

The winner of the game will be sent an autographed portrait of me, to place on their mantle that they may bask in the glory of Mafia until their final day.

There are a couple of special rules:

1) No Private Messaging.

aka no secret alliances.

There is to be no communication about gameplay in this game outside of this thread, aside from the Quicktopic I've assigned to certain players in their role PM. As soon as I find out a message has been sent, I will modkill the sender. You are, of course, free to PM me at any time you'd like.

2) You must post at least once each day.

aka POST POST POST

Not once each game day. Once every real, 24-hour period day. If you don't, I'll send you a PM warning you. If you have enough warnings, I'll just modkill you. If you have only limited access to the internet, let me know somehow. I'm pretty understanding about this stuff.

For the record, breaking rules will mostly be me correcting you. If it becomes a serious problem (guys, I don't expect this at all, but you never know), I will just kill you off and replace you with someone on the replacement list.

Players!

Still in game

WellAdjusted
[SLUTACITY- MONITOR]

Infernus
[ARSONIST/COPY SPECIALIST]

Gone to the Obsolete Technology Factory in the Sky

tits

MrShrike [OCD-ORGANIZATIONALIST] Vinyl Tap Mafia Goon, Lynched D1
simonj [SMARMY-BOOB-MANAGER] Vinyl Tap Mafia Goon, nightkilled N1
mutton [ANCIENT-ASIAN-SECRET-INPUT] Vinyl Tap Mafia Bulletproof Godfather, lynched D2
sponge [SPONGE] 8-Track Mafia Goon, nightkilled N2
zuelan [URGENT-FOREIGNIZATION] 8-Track Mafia Bulletproof Godfather, lynched D3
think [LOQUACITIZATION-SPECIALIST] 8-Track Mafia Goon, nightkilled N3
Atmosfear [CLASS-MAINTENANCE] Bulletproof Serial Killer, lynched D4

This is not an open setup! This means there is no list of roles at the beginning of the game. I have informed you all that this is, in fact, a bastard mod. I'll reveal everything at the end of the game, I promise.

edit: Someone voiced a concern that because it's a closed set up, those unfamiliar with the game might not know some of the special roles being used. Here is a link that describes pretty much every role that's been devised. All role types in game are listed in this link, albeit with one or two minor changes for balance purposes. Be prepared for a shitshow. This is a bastard mod. It isn't like the last two mafia games at all.

http://www.epicmafia.com/instruction/characters

You will all receive a role PM with me once you've confirmed with me that you want to play. Here is a sample PM:

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Townie!

You are a quiet denizen of CompactDiscVille and you have the divine power (and duty) to remove all mafia from town by their necks.  You will talk amongst yourselves to determine who to vote and hang.  The power of life and death is in your hands.  You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

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For the record, roles were selected randomly in the following manner. Roles were numbered 1-9. I went through the player's list and used the random number generator on random.org to select a number. That number went to the name. The remaining roles were numbered 1-8 and the process was repeated.

I will unlock this thread and the game will begin once everyone has confirmed with me and received their role PM. PM me any questions you may have!

DAY 1 BEGINS

Light peeks over the horizon, illuminating the town of CDville. While it lights up the eyes of it's denizens, it does not shed light on the mystery and oppressive feeling that dominates the now quiet streets. Who killed tidus? Nobody cares why, or misses him particularly, but the threat that lingers in the air from the inexplicable murder is too much for the town.

Decide amongst yourselves who is to live and who is to die.

With 9 Alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Votecounts come once per day.

seriously what is with this tradition of mafia killing already undesirable people in the opening story it's like the mod wants the town to celebrate the mafia

i call mod bias

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Originally Posted by sponge

seriously what is with this tradition of mafia killing already undesirable people in the opening story it's like the mod wants the town to celebrate the mafia

i call mod bias

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Good point, well made.

Kiss ass harder bitch

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Originally Posted by MrShrike

Kiss ass harder bitch

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no I understand where he's coming from I love me too

Sponge is a delicious human being.

If we run out of food we will eat him first.

Tidus just died, we have enough food for a year.

I can't remember whether a first day lynch is a good idea or not when you have an odd number of players.

Is there any advantage to a random lynching?

Basically, if you don't lynch anyone then you have zero chance of getting a mafia, versus a mere 1 in 3 change of getting one.

/lynch sponge

Nothing personal but someone's gotta get fingered first and everyone else is playing grab ass.

well, either
a) we have no information to go on and as well sponge as anyone
or
b)a mafioso would realise a) and make sure a non-mafioso were suggested as "default" first

atmosfear would do b) if he were a mafioso, would do a) if he were a townie, but on the other hand this is a bastard mod and atmosfear could be doing absolutely fucking anything

but really I'm just pointing this out because it's not firm reasoning of any kind, doesn't make killing atmosfear a tangible amount less than random, and I'm going to suggest that if we are just random-killing (and we are) then let's lynch mr shrike, the point at which stupidity becomes indistinguishable from evil (i.e. if it's random game wise then it can still be quite advantageous to the town in other ways)

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Originally Posted by MrShrike

Basically, if you don't lynch anyone then you have zero chance of getting a mafia, versus a mere 1 in 3 change of getting one.

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so are you still against lynching?

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Originally Posted by Think

well, either
a) we have no information to go on and as well sponge as anyone
or
b)a mafioso would realise a) and make sure a non-mafioso were suggested as "default" first

atmosfear would do b) if he were a mafioso, would do a) if he were a townie, but on the other hand this is a bastard mod and atmosfear could be doing absolutely fucking anything

but really I'm just pointing this out because it's not firm reasoning of any kind, doesn't make killing atmosfear a tangible amount less than random

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this is a lot of words to say absolutely nothing

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Originally Posted by mutton

this is a lot of words to say absolutely nothing

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I was going to say "there's a distinction between saying absolutely nothing and making observations without making provisional conclusions. Better it gets said and atmosfear's future behaviour is seen through its lens than its being passed over totally."
but then I reread what I had written and you know what point taken sponge is right I talk way too much

Well Adjusted and Zuelan have been prodded

as a minor note... you aren't forced to lynch the first person you wagon. If you find out that they don't seem scummy or that someone else is acting in a more obviously mafia way, there's nothing saying you can't build a case out of the next person and build a wagon on them. Use wagons to pressure people and see how they react and only hammer when you're sure you've got scum. If you just randomly vote and lynch the first person you name, what kind of information do you get on Day 2?

Typically we learn that they were AFK and not deliberately silent. Let us know if you don't plan to post much or have more typical posting hours.

my check up will be sometime around noon each day.

i'm mostly just reminding you that the game is going on, but if i have to do it more than a few times I'll just kill you off and replace you or leave the slot empty.

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Originally Posted by Think

I was going to say "there's a distinction between saying absolutely nothing and making observations without making provisional conclusions. Better it gets said and atmosfear's future behaviour is seen through its lens than its being passed over totally."
but then I reread what I had written and you know what point taken sponge is right I talk way too much

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lol

also no i don't want to die etc

I don't have anything to go off of yet, so I have no lynching desire atm

I'm watching the thread though lol watching and waiting...

I will probs check in sometime during the day but most likely post at night, like late at night

/lynch zuelan because a random number generator told me to and right now a random vote is as good as any. Also I'm off out now and probably won't get back until the night phase or day 2.

Yeah, I have a social life all of a sudden.

i would really prefer a timeline more than a "O, i won't be back until this phase is over."

By which I mean, this is what we call a 'cop out' and I don't consider it proper warning.

i'm watching the thread, just like WellAdjusted is, because, well i'm just as clueless as most of you (what a surprise)

but fine, i'll go ahead and /lynch mrshrike

i realize you're good enough to manipulate some of us, but that also means you could be a very useful townmember, so i'm willing to change my vote if you make a good case

How can I make a case where there is nothing to refute?

/Lynch Sponge

Current Votecount

sponge (3)
Atmosfear, MrShrike, Think

Zuelan (1)
simonj

mrshrike (1)
zuelan

prodding everybody

5 to lynch

/lynch zuelan

michelle pfeiffer chmtvsiheiu avcobnwbiswnftl

Is that because he is by his own admission clueless, or is it because of michelle pfeiffer?

/lynch mrshrike for killing me last game bastard also because #michellepheiffer is the best irc channel

lynch mrshrike because he always bandwagons my votes and he's a blathering idiot

Current Votecount

sponge (1)
MrShrike

Zuelan (1)
simonj, mutton

MrShrike (4)
zuelan, Atmosfear, sponge, think

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch

thanks to the anonymous tipsters who pointed out my shitty votecounting

sorry about that guys

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Originally Posted by WellAdjusted

I don't have anything to go off of yet, so I have no lynching desire atm

I'm watching the thread though lol watching and waiting...

I will probs check in sometime during the day but most likely post at night, like late at night

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listen the rest of us are less than clueless too

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Originally Posted by mutton

/lynch zuelan

michelle pfeiffer chmtvsiheiu avcobnwbiswnftl

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These were my acronyms for "coq has missed Think's vote so I have evened it up - a vote change or bandwagon now will be informative since we need five to lynch. Michelle Pfeiffer = nothing personal against zuelan." It'd be nice to know who tipped coq off because the mafia is more likely to notice, and why would a townie tell coq anonymously? Based on the timing of Think's post at 11:16 and coq's edit at 11:29, Think is an obvious suspect.

Lynching MrShrike isn't clearly beneficial, as only one voter (Think) gave a real reason and he didn't answer my question in post #15 (people not paying attention are more likely to be townies). My guess for mafia atm is Atmosfear/Think.

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

If you look back, youll see all throughout the game, mrshrike committed other rookie mistakes. He lynches without motive and lynched back his accusers (compare to me asking the people who accuse me why they've done so to gain info, or just ignoring them.)

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Before Brit or Shit, Atmosfear and MrShrike had an argument in which MrShrike was clearly wrong and Atmosfear decided to not lynch him on Day 1. They have another argument before this game and this time Atmosfear makes a personal vote to pile on.

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Originally Posted by Think

listen the rest of us are less than clueless too

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I expect others to say this but it is out of character for you. There is plenty to talk about, such as the votes so far and which roles are probable given coq is hosting the game. Mafia Game predictions [no players allowed] - Page 2 - Casual Discourse

/lynch Atmosfear

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Originally Posted by simonj

/lynch zuelan because a random number generator told me to and right now a random vote is as good as any. Also I'm off out now and probably won't get back until the night phase or day 2.

Yeah, I have a social life all of a sudden.

i would really prefer a timeline more than a "O, i won't be back until this phase is over."

By which I mean, this is what we call a 'cop out' and I don't consider it proper warning.

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you were just online, why didn't you post
Casual Discourse - View Single Post - Mafia Game predictions [no players allowed]

I've not had anything to add since you also voted for zuelan. I'm also not entirely sober and I've not slept (it's 7am).

So far I'm pretty suspicious of WellAdjusted because avoiding making any sort of vote is a pretty basic mafia tactic and she's inexperienced enough to make that move as a mafia. Sponge and Atmosfear have both made votes based entirely on previous prejudices and that's a pretty good way of disguising a manipulative lynch-attempt.

For now though I have no real reason to change my original vote for zuelan.

I am going to vote for /lynch mrshrike because I don't have anything to go off of, and finding out what he is will give me something... hopefully anyways

Isn't it interesting that the only person voting for me right now with a semi-logical reason, that isn't based entirely on having a sook about the last game, is Welladjusted?

When Welladjusted is intellectually leading your charge you might to rethink your game plan guys.

Right now the most suspicious person is simonj, who mysteriously pipes up with a bunch of irrelevant bullshit about being drunk/confused, but apparently still coherent enough to point the finger at both sponge and atmosfear - yet doesn't vote for either, or even change his randomly select vote for Zuelan.

/lynch simonj

Welladjusted, I promise you I am not a mafia. I am however, fairly good at this game. So keeping me alive instead of killing me makes it much more likely that we will find the mafia and win the game.

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Originally Posted by MrShrike

Isn't it interesting that the only person voting for me right now with a semi-logical reason, that isn't based entirely on having a sook about the last game, is Welladjusted?

When Welladjusted is intellectually leading your charge you might to rethink your game plan guys.

Right now the most suspicious person is simonj, who mysteriously pipes up with a bunch of irrelevant bullshit about being drunk/confused, but apparently still coherent enough to point the finger at both sponge and atmosfear - yet doesn't vote for either, or even change his randomly select vote for Zuelan.

/lynch simonj

Welladjusted, I promise you I am not a mafia. I am however, fairly good at this game. So keeping me alive instead of killing me makes it much more likely that we will find the mafia and win the game.

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you are dead dude stfu

quoted for posterity

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Originally Posted by MrShrike

Welladjusted, I promise you I am not a mafia. I am however, fairly good at this game. So keeping me alive instead of killing me makes it much more likely that we will find the mafia and win the game.

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If it will appease mutton, I'll go ahead and use this for my motive to lynch.

Truthfully, I voted for sponge to get things started with no real basis. Then I voted for MrShrike because he squirms more. I'm not married to the idea of killing anyone.

Oh yeah, I'll go ahead and clarify now in big letters:

I sleep from 11pm to 6am EST. I post from an iPhone from 9am to 7pm. As of this morning, my neighbors fixed their router so I have internet at home for those other hours.

Good, now we've got the Atmosfear metagame out of the way.

oh, i only made a deal of it because i don't want people using copout excuses to just lurk until the next phase.

It's ok Atmosfear, no-one really expects you to admit you're still butthurt about the last game. All you needed was an excuse.

MrShrike, your gloating is pathetic.

Current Votecount

sponge (1)
MrShrike

Zuelan (1)
simonj

Atmosfear (1)
mutton

MrShrike (5)
zuelan, Atmosfear, sponge, think, Welladjusted

"I'm innocent, I tell you!" MrShrike screeches, the alcohol strong on his breath as he gets dragged to the makeshift gallows in the town square. "I'm not mafia at all! I don't know what you're talking about! LET ME GOOOO!!!" The noose (made of recycled CDs) is slipped around his neck. As his body falls, it is arrested short of the ground, but something in his suit coat continues anyways. The town gathers around Shrike's kicking feet to examine the item.

Closer inspection reveals it to be a large record (possibly made for a Victrola brand phonograph) with the title MrShrike, Vinyl Tap Mafia Goon Esq. written in old Italian calligraphy across the front. With this revelation, the sun begins to set and Night falls.

NIGHT 2 BEGINS.
Please submite all night actions as soon as possible.

DAY 2 BEGINS

The sun rises. It has a habit of doing so.

The world stirs. Some people are more inclined to watch the sunrise. Some never sleep just to see it. Some sleep through it. Regardless of its audience, the sun rises. It has a habit of doing so.

The town gathers together, only to find that the recent population decline is, in fact, an ongoing trend. Where 8 slept, only 7 rise. Sometimes, habits aren't enough. Or perhaps other's habits tend to... interfere.

simonj, Vinyl Tap Mafia Goon has been garrotted in his sleep. The only other clue as to his demise was a note left sitting on his nightstand that read:

"Your social life can suck my dick."

Nobody saw who did this. Surprise, surprise. Another day rises, another mafia downed. The town is certainly on a roll, isn't it?

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

ok well it is obvious that we should /lynch mutton at this point
he voted against zuelan and atmosfear who both went straight for lynching a mafioso, his third "suspect" was me, again, I was voting for mr shrike.
In voting for zuelan, he sided with simonj, the second mafioso, and when mr shrike died and threw suspicion on simonj (in a very transparent attempt to discredit suspecting simonj when his role was revealed), mutton made sure that the post was highlighted. ("quoted for posterity"? really?!)
If he is a townie he has made some terribly terribly terribly unfortunate choices
He is mutton so this is not the case

I agree with Think right now that mutton is the leading candidate for the reasons he stated. I'll go ahead and lynch mutton now, with the caveat that I want to put pressure on him--I think we can gain information this round if we don't just quick lynch with the first four votes.

I just can't wrap my head around a reason why mutton or anyone else would intentionally kill (presumably) the second of three mafia in the night phase. He didn't even gain the benefit of building rapport with the town.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but based on the flavor text, it looks like some night action(s) were prevented. I suspect this means there are two mafia families (and not for a metagame reason like "Vinyl Tap" mafia goon) and the nurse blocked the Vinyl Tap kill, but the other mafia family killed a Vinyl Tap (simonj.)

Unfortunately, that theory doesn't really explain mutton's actions, so he looks more town than he does part of the other mafia family (for the purely metagame reason of, with 9 people, I can't imagine we would have two families of 3 and 3 or 3 and 2--probably 2 and 2, with one family dead.)

Also, off topic, this is by far the best flavortext of a mafia game yet.

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Originally Posted by Think

ok well it is obvious that we should /lynch mutton at this point
he voted against zuelan and atmosfear who both went straight for lynching a mafioso, his third "suspect" was me, again, I was voting for mr shrike.
In voting for zuelan, he sided with simonj, the second mafioso, and when mr shrike died and threw suspicion on simonj (in a very transparent attempt to discredit suspecting simonj when his role was revealed), mutton made sure that the post was highlighted. ("quoted for posterity"? really?!)
If he is a townie he has made some terribly terribly terribly unfortunate choices
He is mutton so this is not the case

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Think on this: If almost everyone votes for MrShrike and I suspect other people, those people are going to coincide.

MrShrike's post after he died was obviously significant in some way. Quoting for posterity is how we do, and I saved the post in case coq deleted it.

I actually had reasons for my suspicions unlike the others, so this is the type of situation where if I was right I'd look like a genius, or fishy if I'm completely wrong (that may still not be true).

But yeah the logical move is to lynch me or infernus and if the game doesn't end by then, consider Atmosfear's theory.

/lynch infernus, who was online this morning right after the night ended and didn't post. Casual Discourse - View Profile: Infernus@@AMEPARAM@@View Profile: Infernus</title>@@AMEPARAM@@Infernus

Aside from infernus, what were your suspicions?

Are you only going by him not posting?

Because I log on all the time without posting.. just to see what is up

I am thinking mutton right now, but I am going to wait a little longer

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Originally Posted by WellAdjusted

Are you only going by him not posting?

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No. Look at yesterday's votes. The only people who didn't vote for MrShrike were me and infernus. People who lynch mafia are supposed to be townies. Did I really need to explain this?

The timing is relevant because the mafia needs to be online before the night ends.

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Aside from infernus, what were your suspicions?

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I was referring to my previous suspicions toward you and Think.

lol apparently you did need to explain that

Uh mutton just because you didn't vote for a mafia doesn't make you a suspect. In fact it behooves the mafia to vote inline with the town to allay suspicion. I don't think you can safely say that you or infernus is more likely to be mafia based on that single vote outcome.

I also find it curious that you haven't addressed Think, who had at least has somewhat reasonable suspicion of you this round, especially after you named him yesterday.

Two mafia families seems way more reasonable than assuming infernus.

i'll go with mutton, hes the obvious choice here. i'd be willing to change my vote (as always) but i don't see it happening

/lynch mutton

Atmosfear - kudos if the double mafia theory is correct - but I can't see why serial killer/vigilante and nurse doesn't explain last night better than two families would.
My concern is, if this is wrong, even if it's right to an extent, it is hugely maladaptive for the town to think in this way. It makes all the people who are most town open to suspicion because they're killing mafia - if that isn't a narrative open to mafia abuse then I don't know what is. Combine it with your statement just now that mafia vote to lynch mafia and you can see why it's beginning to come off as subversive to me.
So whilst I think that you may well be right (the "vinyl tap" designation does sound like it's there to distinguish different groups, there are other meta reasons it would make sense, like the ban on PMs), and I admit that I might be blinded somewhat by my suspicion that mutton is not only a mafioso but is "vinyl tap", I don't see pressing in-game reasons to accept the hypothesis, and I wonder whether you have a way to turn it into an action plan without it devolving into us eating our young.

Think is right. A serial killer or vigilante could accomplish the same. The important point is that there are probably two night killers, not that the Vinyl Tap Mafia have decided to eat their young.

Current Votecount

mutton (3)
Think, Atmosfear, zuelan

Infernus(1)
mutton

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch

lynch mutton over da edge

Mutton looks at the bloodthirsty crowd fearlessly, his glorious wool shining brightly in the setting sun. His calm, black, beady eyes glare at the (small) mob that forms around him.

"Baaaaaa INFERNUS Baaaaa"

His arguments and hoof-pointing, however, serve him poorly. Fingers grasp his golden fleece and haul him to the gallows. Some were uncertain how lynching a sheep would work, but wouldn't you know? It seems to work exactly the same way. When the flopping stopped, mutton was cut down. The town quickly got to work searching the magnificiently tuxedo'd corpse, finding what they were looking for right away. A bag marked "Witchery" slips out of the breast pocket and spills over the ground. Moving pictures of injuries, tentacle rape and other varied forms of entertainment stain the ground, but amidst them lies a business card.

Mutton, Bulletproof Godfather of the Vinyl Tap Mafia is written in Sillian Braille on bone-coloured stock. You are all slightly more ashamed about your poor choice of business cards.

NIGHT 2 BEGINS

Please submit all night actions ASAP.

DAY 3 BEGINS

It's cloudy, this morning. The rain pours in thick waves from the sky, oppressing the lighter spirits that coem from hitting so many mafia members. Everybody gathers in the town square to congratulate themselves on a job well done. A quick headcount, however, shows something is amiss.

Sponge is missing. The town quickly heads over to his small apartment on a quiet street (he doesn't get out too much, he likes to watch TV) to see what's keeping him. Maybe he slept in?

He did. Turns out he's going to sleep in for a lot more mornings than this one. Sponge was repeatedly stabbed to death. Someone, either the sponge himself or his killer, had left a clip running on his computer, showing him graduating from the 8-track Mafia College and being awarded the title of Goon. Is this a turf war? What's going on?

One thing is certain - the Mafia is not finished with this town yet. Neither is the town finished with the Mafia.

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

I want people other than atmosfear (p.s. impressive, dude) and I to do some talking before I even try to impose a conceptual framework on what's going on here
/lynch welladjusted because damn bitch, say something, anything otherwise I'ma kill you

So if theres 2 sets of mafia, with 3 in each groups that leaves 2 mafia and 3 cits, so if we do the lynching we have to do it right guys.

I really have no excuse for why I didn't post or lynch I was just unsure on what I wanted to do and didn't know this shit would go by so fast.

lynch zuelan because to me he seemed suspicious last round by just bandwagoning onto votes during the second day, and thats really the only suspicion I have of anyone.

Lynch zuelan. I agree with sponge about zuelan, though there's nothing terribly convincing so I'm willing to join another bandwagon.

There must still be another Vinyl Tap mafia alive (or a vigilante/serial killer) because it makes no sense for the 8-Track mafia to kill themselves. I guess the good news is we must have a nurse or two, because we're averaging 1 kill a night when we should've had 2.

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Lynch zuelan. I agree with sponge about zuelan, though there's nothing terribly convincing so I'm willing to join another bandwagon.

There must still be another Vinyl Tap mafia alive (or a vigilante/serial killer) because it makes no sense for the 8-Track mafia to kill themselves. I guess the good news is we must have a nurse or two, because we're averaging 1 kill a night when we should've had 2.

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you mean infernus

at this point i don't find anyone particularly suspicious, so voting for someone would be next to random.

i'll vote when more information is available.

Current Votecount

zuelan (2)
Atmosfear, Infernus

WellAdjusted(1)
Think

With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch

Prodding WellAdjusted

all we have done so far is kill mafia.. so to me mafia has majority rule (well obvi) even if they aren't just onf amile... which obviously they are not

I will vote for /lynch think because you and atmosphere are suspicious to me

Whichever one of Think/Well Adjusted isn't 8-track needs to switch to Zuelan.

I'm gonna need protection tonight from the nurse, but I verified last night that zuelan is mafia. I suspect he's the 8-track godfather. I don't think godfathers can die at night (unless it's been bastardized) so this is probably the last chance to get a lynching majority to kill him.

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Originally Posted by WellAdjusted

all we have done so far is kill mafia.. so to me mafia has majority rule (well obvi) even if they aren't just one family... which obviously they are not

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If we were at the point where a team had already won due to a majority or nothing being able to stop it, I would have ended the game already and announced the winner.

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Whichever one of Think/Well Adjusted isn't 8-track needs to switch to Zuelan.

I'm gonna need protection tonight from the nurse, but I verified last night that zuelan is mafia. I suspect he's the 8-track godfather. I don't think godfathers can die at night (unless it's been bastardized) so this is probably the last chance to get a lynching majority to kill him.

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i really hope people don't fall for this bullshit

i didn't want to share this information but you leave me no choice, well played, i guess.

i'm a nurse, and i've been protecting myself on both nights. i'm saying i'm a nurse because i don't know if theres another nurse in the game, seeing how several deaths have been adverted so far. the only reason why you'd hog protection and try to kill a nurse would be because you're mafia, and so is think, you two have been playing us all along. Of course you would be the first to know theres two mafia families if a goon dies and its not from your mafia.

infact, /lynch atmosfear and hopefully the rest will follow.

Lmao thank you for that information. I think I was trying tp get at something else

That seems highly unlikely. Feel free to lynch me next if i'm wrong. Theres few enough that i'll gamble the game on me dying tonight, but I'm a vigilante and tried to kill zuelan last night and failed. I doubt there's actually a nurse so I'm pretty much dead, but the blocked kills have probably been godfathers.

Just to be clear, I wasn't responsible for the 8-track kill. Mine failed.

Also I'm drunk at a wedding so iPhone clause and hopefully not coqauvin repeat also fuck Arkansas.

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Originally Posted by WellAdjusted

all we have done so far is kill mafia.. so to me mafia has majority rule (well obvi) even if they aren't just onf amile... which obviously they are not

I will vote for /lynch think because you and atmosphere are suspicious to me

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but you're the only other person I feel reasonably sure is town

don't do this

Current Votecount

zuelan (2)
Atmosfear, Infernus

WellAdjusted(1)
Think

Think
WellAdjusted

Atmosfear
zuelan

With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch

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Originally Posted by Think

but you're the only other person I feel reasonably sure is town

don't do this

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Then why are you still voting for her?

If you vote zuelan, we'll learn the obvious (zuelan is mafia or I'm horribly wrong) and you and WellAdjusted will both live.

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Originally Posted by Think

but you're the only other person I feel reasonably sure is town

don't do this

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you are voting for me....

But i will change my vote to /lynch zuelan

Current Votecount

zuelan (3)
Atmosfear, Infernus, WellAdjusted

WellAdjusted(1)
Think

Atmosfear
zuelan


"I don't know what you guys are talking about!" zuelan challenges the crowd. "I was just keeping myself alive with my first aid goons! How is that illegal?" The town continues dragging him to the gallows as his babbling continues, "You can't do this to me!"

2 minutes later his feet are swinging in the wind. No business cards are found, but a search of his immense manse on the outskirts of town reveals a large trophy. Atop the trophy are crossed guns over an 8-track player, and at the bottom is the inscription: To our dear friend Zuelan in commemoration of his appointment as the Bulletproof Godfather of the 8-Track Mafia.

Good job town!

Everyone scurries to bed as night falls.

Please submit your night actions ASAP

GAME OVER

It gets night so quickly and stays night so long in CDville. Atmosfear, the Bulletproof Serial Killer is on the prowl. He knows the tail end of the 8-Track Mafia is there, being all vulgar and Northern in town. Atmosfear can't and won't abide it.

Think, the 8-Track Mafia Goon walks briskly down the alley to Atmosfear's house. He's sick of his shit and is determined to end it, not knowing what was in store.

Atmosfear carefully sights down the length of his revolver. Think's eyes shoot over to Atmosfear's hiding spot as light reflects off the well-polished barrel of his revolver. Think knows what's happeneing before it even occurs.

The BANG is deafening, far louder than it normally is. And Think's head disappeared. Atmosfear shrugs it off and disappears back home.

At the other end of the alley, Infernus and WellAdjusted congratulate themselves on their timing. Not only did they take out their target, they pulled the trigger at the same time as Atmosfear, who still didn't know that they, the Cassette Tape Mafia Bulletproof Godfather (infernus) and his Goon (WellAdjusted), even existed.

The next day, the three of them met at the ol' lynching hall. In about 30 seconds, the Mafia voted for Atmosfear, ignoring the disbelief in his eyes and the racist xenophobia from his throat as he ranted about bringing the purity of the south back to the world. His neck broke quickly and the mafia high-fived and surveyed the bloodied remains of the town where only they still lived and called it a day.

The Cassette Tape Mafia Wins



WINNERS!

Infernus [ARSONIST/COPY SPECIALIST] Cassette Tape Mafia Bulletproof Godfather
WellAdjusted [SLUTACITY- MONITOR Cassette Tape Mafia Goon

KILLED...

MrShrike [OCD-ORGANIZATIONALIST] Vinyl Tap Mafia Goon, Lynched D1
simonj [SMARMY-BOOB-MANAGER] Vinyl Tap Mafia Goon, nightkilled N1
mutton [ANCIENT-ASIAN-SECRET-INPUT] Vinyl Tap Mafia Bulletproof Godfather, lynched D2
sponge [SPONGE] 8-Track Mafia Goon, nightkilled N2
zuelan [URGENT-FOREIGNIZATION] 8-Track Mafia Bulletproof Godfather, lynched D3
think [LOQUACITIZATION-SPECIALIST] 8-Track Mafia Goon, nightkilled N3
Atmosfear [CLASS-MAINTENANCE] Bulletproof Serial Killer, lynched D4

Day 1

sponge (1)
MrShrike

Zuelan (1)
simonj

Atmosfear (1)
mutton

MrShrike (5)
zuelan, Atmosfear, sponge, think, Welladjusted

MrShrike lynched

Night 1

8-Track - mutton NO KILL
Cassette - zuelan NO KILL
Atmosfear - simonj KILLED

Day 2

mutton (4)
Think, Atmosfear, zuelan, sponge

Infernus(1)
mutton

mutton lynched

Night 2

Cassette - SPONGE KILLED
Atmosfear - ZUELAN NO KILL

Day 3

zuelan (3)
Atmosfear, Infernus, WellAdjusted

WellAdjusted(1)
Think

Atmosfear
zuelan

Zuelan lynched

Night 3

Cassette - Atmosfear NO KILL
8-Track - Think KILLED
Serial Killer - Think TWICE AS DEAD

Day 4

Atmosfear (2)
WellAdjusted, Infernus

Atmosfear lynched

Cassette Tape Mafia is the sole survivor

For the record, the setup ran, obviously, like this:

Mafia A: even-numbered nightkills
1 Bulletproof Godfather
2 Goons

Mafia B: odd-numbered nightkills
1 Bulletproof Godfather
2 Goons

Mafia C: kills every night
1 Bulletproof Godfather
1 Goon

1 Bulletproof Serial Killer



And the quicktopics I used for each of the mafias can be found here:

Cassette Tape Mafia:
http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/qittAkvjwVL

8-Track Mafia:
http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/XmMtKu67wqxgt

Vinyl Tap Mafia:
http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/6NeYaNDG8ifLG

Role PMs:

These were all pretty much identical, although I had to be very careful which I sent to who. Except Atmosfear's. I didn't make any mention of the possibility of multiple mafias, mostly because I wanted to see how everyone would react.

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Originally Posted by Goon PM

MAFIA GOON!

You are a Mafia Goon! Your fellow teammates are XXXXXX and XXXXXX. You are trying to take over the town of CDville by force. Each day you can talk and vote for other players, and on odd/even-numbered/every nights you can agree on a player you wish eliminated. You can communicate with your mafia members with this QuickTopic here: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

You win when the Mafia creates a majority, or nothing can prevent the same. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Godfather PM

Mafia Godfather!!

You are a Mafia Godfather! Your schemes have earned you great powers, Don XXXXXX. Your goons are XXXXXX and XXXXXX. Because you've amassed so much respect as the Don, your mansion is the most heavily protected building in town. As a result, you are immune to night kills. On odd/even-numbered/every nights, come to an agreement with your goons and order the hit. You can communicate with your goons in this QuickTopic: XXXXXXXXXXXXX

You win when the Mafia creates a majority, or nothing can prevent the same. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by SK PM

Serial Killer?!

You are a vicious psychopath! Years of living in the South have instilled in you a ferocious sense of narcissism and superiority, and it's up to you to cleanse this town of everything that isn't gentlemanly. Each night, you can select a target to eliminate. Because you have such high status in the town (thanks to that magnificient bow-tie), you are immune to night kills.

You win when there is no one left in town but yourself, or nothing can prevent the same. Good luck!

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Atmosfear, that's two where you almost won

maybe next time?

Woo

This was my favourtie game so far, if only to read. MrShrike is a faggot and really is fucking terrible at this game.

hah I was thinking of bringing up the idea of a third set of mafia as a decoy but I never seriously considered that it could be the case
but even if I didn't know about them, I can see that I still seriously misstepped on day 3 given what I did know
oh well, good game guys

This was a fun read

Holy shit Coq that was way different to what we were expecting. Interesting to see the difference in the mafia conversations.

I called early based on metagame that it was all mafia, but no idea there was a third. I think splitting the kills up for the 2 big mafia was a huge disadvantage to them and a huge advantage to the third. The format basically went from what I thought was unloseable for the serial killer (2 groups of 4) to unwinnable. Without any voting lobby, there's no way a serial killer can get 3 godfathers lynched unless the mafia are all complete morons. At best, the serial killer can do what I did and determine which mafia group wins.

I proposed a variation to coq before it ended that had more transparency in the setup, but results in the same (balance the need to kill the serial killer with the need to maintain majority.) Basically there would be 2 groups of 4 mafia and a serial killer. The mafia would have a non-bulletproof godfather and a healer. Everyone would know their mafia allegiance and godfather, but not eachother. There would be no communication by PM and all communication would be public. Only the godfathers (and the serial killer) would be able to determine night kills.

It is ridiculously difficult to win as a serial killer in pretty much any game of mafia. You had the added advantage of being bulletproof, and if think had chosen to shoot well adjusted instead of you, the game would've ended in a tie (two bulletproof players remaining deadlock the vote).

The whole idea of the game was to take the informed minority and make everyone a part of it. The gameplay expects town and everyone in the game was making reference to how they were town right up until the endgame. This variant has 0 town roles and is a race to drop the BP roles before 1 mafia takes over.

The real hurdle for you, Atmosfear, was that you didn't know there would be 3 groups of mafia. You called 2 and that everyone else was mafia, but had you known there were 3 from the start, I'm sure your gameplay would've accomodated that. You wouldn't have tried to finish off the 8-track on the last night, which was the real reason you lost (that and cassette tape's targetting).

And that the mafia who had the kill each night managed to go undetected for the entire game was more due to poor playing on all the mafia's part. They kept backing each other up instead of ruthlessly pushing them to the wolves, and it was really, really easy for anyone to spot alignments if they just paid a little attention.

In regards to the kill each night - it ended up being relatively balanced. There was never more or less than a single night kill (with 2-3 going off each night, even though half the town was immune to it). Compared to a 4-4-1 setup, it works. in a 4-4-1, if there's ever a difference of 2 from one faction to another, the game ends. That could mean a Day 2 loss, with a touch of (bad?) luck. Having more factions with smaller populations leads not only to each faction thinking they're the only one (something that definitely influenced play here), but also to less swinging in who will actually take control.

Even with a kill each night and a flawless game for the Cassette Tape Mafia, it still took them 3 Days and Nights to actually win. For the mafia with more people (and in a 9 player game, that extra man is the advantage that balances the "kill each night" to the "kill every other night"), at best they could win on Night 3 as well because of all the bullet-proof role.

Well that's true about the serial killer in general. The best you can hope for is to survive to the last days and get lucky.

It wouldn't have mattered coq. By the time I knew the second godfather, I would have lost anyways. I don't think I had a shot unless I managed to somehow get everyone to lynch a godfather a night.

Had I had perfect knowledge of the setup, i would have lied the last night and hoped to lynch the third godfather, then I would have had to guess as to who was on which side, kill the 8-track goon, and hope the 8-track were idiots and tried to kill me that night, then persuade the remaining cassette goon to lynch the godfather.

I can rest assured that even with all that knowledge, even I can't push a crowd that well.

gg

we did it! not sure how but we did

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Originally Posted by Atmoscheer

Well that's true about the serial killer in general. The best you can hope for is to survive to the last days and get lucky.

It wouldn't have mattered coq. By the time I knew the second godfather, I would have lost anyways. I don't think I had a shot unless I managed to somehow get everyone to lynch a godfather a night.

Had I had perfect knowledge of the setup, i would have lied the last night and hoped to lynch the third godfather, then I would have had to guess as to who was on which side, kill the 8-track goon, and hope the 8-track were idiots and tried to kill me that night, then persuade the remaining cassette goon to lynch the godfather.

I can rest assured that even with all that knowledge, even I can't push a crowd that well.

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There was a godfather lynched on 2 of 3 days, which surprised me at first. But then I realized that having your kill not go through is just as good as an investigation. If WellAdjusted was killed Night 2 instead of sponge, the game would have been much, much different.

Yeah, SKs are fun, but winning with them is pretty outrageously tough, and that wasn't a setup that supported them at all. It was just something to mix things up a bit more.

Damn, this looked like fun.