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A FATHER and daughter who caused controversy when they revealed their incestuous love affair and had a baby together have split up.
Adelaide woman Jenny Deaves, 40, has told New Idea magazine that she recently split with her father John Deaves, 62, and has found romance with 34-year-old Shayne Farrell - a bisexual father-of-three and now her fiance.
That is all sick.
She looks nasty too.
Aww, I thought this was under "Video Vault" at first :(
oh my sycld you need some help
lol
Oh hey I remember this from LWS
How can you split up with your dad, that just has fail written all over it.
My Daddy is my grandaddy....
Pics or it didn't happen.
So the one about the mom in the wheelchair makes you sick, but this one you want to watch? Just because it was "consenting adults" in this one doesn't make it any less of an abuse. I don't see how incest can be fully consentual.Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
the problem with incest isn't a matter of consent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryptic
This has VC Andrews scribbled all over it.
where is the abuse in consent? incest can be fully consensual the same way as within any other coupleQuote:
Originally Posted by Cryptic
i don't see how any older relative who has lived for that long can't hold back their urge, but it's conceivable that both sides are perfectly content with the situation
the comment you're quoting of mine was a joke, but i really did misread the front page at first glance and thought that this was posted in "video vault."Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryptic
the thing is that thiis article didn't make me so depressed that i couldn't joke about it
the other one did.
The funny thing about text is that tone doesn't come across too well in it. I didn't read your comment as a joke and it has nothing to do with taking anything too seriously. It just didn't seem like you were kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
why the hell would I, a self-proclaimed faggot, want to see a hideous woman have sex with her somehow even more hideous father
obvious sarcasm is obvious
Fags are never serious, unless you fuck with the hair.
Whatever, I'm the forum idiot I guess, remember?Quote:
Originally Posted by sycld
Anyway as for how it's abuse that cannot possibly be a balanced relationship. How can you possibly have a healthy, mutual relationship with a parent? Also how can you have a sexual relationship with a parent and still have a healthy relationship with that parent? Consent to sex doesn't mean anything, millions of abused partners consent to sex every day, doesn't make them any less abused.
Millions of people have 'unbalanced' relationships, are they all being abused?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryptic
Remember, a 'yes' answer will result in you being a retard.
Well since I'm of course not a retard, obviously no. Relationships can work if one person makes more money than the other. Or one makes more decisions than the other (if the non-decision maker is OK with it). Stuff like that. What's important is trust and respect. The lack of either or both of those is what defines abuse, not specifically what goes on in the relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by simonj
The kind of abuse/imbalance I'm talking about is a power differential. Relationships like this one, and it makes me a little ill to even call an incestuous relationship a relationship but anyway, are the same reason why a lot of schools place bans on fucking your profs. I mean, what do you do when your boyfriend can ground you? I'm sure this romance wasn't always going on, so I'm guessing at one point they had a normal father/daughter relationship. How can a child - a daughter at that - be a true partner in a relationship with her FATHER? There is no way on this earth a parent can have a romantic or sexual relationship with their child and have it be a healthy relationship. You can't even compare this kind of relationship to anything normal or healthy because it just cannot be that way.
It isn't even about sex. While it makes me want to gag, I suppose it's possible for parent and child to engage in totally consensual sex with no degree of manipulation or abuse. I don't know how you'd get to that point, but I suppose it's possible. You just can't have a relationship that's in any way healthy.
Sorry, she's 40. I don't think she counts as a child any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryptic
I'm not saying it's healthy, I'm not going to make that sort of uber-moralistic judgement. I've never been in that situation and presumably never will. To be fair to them, their lives have made no impact on my life, my views or anything else. Nor have they made an impact on yours.
I couldn't give two shits what these people do with their lives. From the sound of the story no-one has been hurt and (if we use the traditional definition) no one has been abused either. I can only presume this was a slow news day because it doesn't seem worth reporting to me.
You're always your parents' child. True your relationship changes (or should) as you get older into one more equal, but honestly, no matter how old I get there are sides of me that my parents will never see and things I will never tell them because they're my parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by simonj
I kind of agree with you actually - while I think it's sick it has nothing to do with my life and whatever people want to do and all that, my biggest issue with it is actually that they had a kid. The rest is just fodder for debate. But the child has SOMETHING wrong with it, inbreeding doesn't create healthy offspring, and how will he/she explain his/her family situation? So I guess if anyone has been hurt it's their child.
Ok, yeah. Here's where we both agree. I kind of glazed over the kid part when reading the story. I once saw a documentary about sibling couples and in the end it just made me think "Well, so what. They clearly love each other, let them get on with it. They're not hurting any one and as long as they don't have kids then it should be nobody's business."
These have had a kid, and that adds all sort of problems to the equation, be they physical/medical disadvantages or psychological problems or anything else. Bringing a child into it is forcing someone who has no choice into that situation.
How could you fuck your father?
Fuck everything.
How come societal rejects always do things that reinforce them being rejects?