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A spinster who obsessively hoarded clothes died in her home after a mountain of suitcases fell on her, burying her alive.
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A spinster who obsessively hoarded clothes died in her home after a mountain of suitcases fell on her, burying her alive.
Seems she died by extreme jenga.
thank god for capitalism and unchecked consumerism
LOL that's a perfect way for someone like that to die.
I can't stand people like this.
This makes me want to see someone die by having their porn collection fall on them.
How much can one 300gb hard drive weigh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepsi
Oh hush you.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwahir
You know what I meant.
Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwahir
Thanks for making me laugh at the internet while housemates were in the room. :(
well, it depends.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwahir
from the 60's it could be as big as a house.
hm... i see posibilities.
Yea, because computers that use hard drives from the 60's are totally have 10/100 NIC cards and TCP/IP, not to mention compatible with IE7 and FireFox. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sion
Oh, and:
"1980 - The world's first gigabyte-capacity disk drive, the IBM 3380, was the size of a refrigerator, weighed 550 pounds (about 250 kg), and had a price tag of $40,000."
Good luck getting a 300 in the 60's you worthless sack of panda douche.
The title of the article and this thread has been bugging me. The word "shopaholic" does not make any sense. There is no such thing as shopahol, therefore one could not be a shopaholic. People need to understand suffixes.
Also, wtf, how could it take two days of searching to find a dead person in her own home? She really had that much crap?
Impulse control disorders are pretty common, and are considered legitimate illnesses that can have drastic impacts on the sufferers and their families. It is very likely that this woman couldn't stop herself. It's really just sad, and it's pretty cruel to suggest that she deserved her death.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShitFace
YES SHE DESERVED TO DIE AND I HOPE SHE BURNS IN HELL.
nermy you make me cry
HaHa.
Well, OK maybe I was harsh in saying she deserved to die. I didn't really mean that.Quote:
Originally Posted by solecistic
But lol I'm not buying that 'its an illness' crap. I suppose this comes under the same category as fat people not being able to help themselves either.
There's always a choice in doing something, they are just weak willed.
Yes, people who are chemically imbalanced are just weak willed.
You've solved psychology. You win the game.
I never said I solved anything, just that I don't buy that stuff.
Howcome these chemical imbalances in people have only started to appear within the past 100 years?
I am not a psychiatrist or a psychologist, nor am I an uncredited expert in either field. I don't know the answer to that question, and while I have some idea of what the answer could be, I am in no way qualified to talk about it.
What I will say is that people who don't "buy" illnesses have an understandable view - some illnesses look like nothing more than poor habits, or simple sins like sloth or greed. It's not that psychology/psychiatry is trying to give people who are lazy/stupid an excuse to be lazy/stupid. When people shop/gamble/drink/drive recklessly/do any other thing in excess to the point where it destroys their entire lives, it is likely to be something other than a simple lack of personal restraint. A person who shops all the time isn't considered "ill" until he has put his finances and family into jeopardy. When a person cannot stop, even when his house is full of stuff, or his bank account is overdrawn and his credit cards are maxed out, that's probably not behavior easily explained by lack of willpower.
I'm also neither, and don't really know anything about psychology etc.
I see where you're coming from, but to be honest I think you just put more faith in the human race than me.
I think that people always have a choice, but for whatever reason, usually pleasure, or maybe just that its hard to break a habit, a lot of the time people choose the worse option, even if it does max out their credit cards, family in jeopardy and all the other things you said.
I've done it myself, I know. I remember thinking I should be doing X but I do Y.
Hell I'm doing it right this second. I should be doing coursework that is due in tomorrrow, but am I? No.
People who do this on a regular basis, in my opinion, don't have a chemical imbalance. They are just weak willed and/or know how to indulge.
Surely, otherwise everyone who doesn't do homework/coursework for a deadline, can't get somewhere on time, keep their promises, pay people back who owe them money, stick to their plan, does anyone who does any one of these regularly/consistently, or something similar, have some kind of chemical imbalance?
No, its just a personal flaw.
I am one of these people, but at least I admit it.
They do it just because they can.
There is ALWAYS a choice I think. I'm sure these people were thinking "Oh I shouldn't be eating/buying more things" as they did so. They could have just put thier foot down and just not done it. Sure it would have been difficult, old habits die hard.
But they had the choice and took the easy way. Doing what they usually do.
Do you see my point of view, even if you don't agree?
I already said you have an understandable view, even if it is particularly cruel and unfair in my opinion. There is no question that many people are assholes because they're just assholes, or are irresponsible because they're irresponsible. But some people have genuine disorders. Do you believe that people who wash their hands 500 times a day are choosing to do that? If you can accept that constant handwashing might be due to an illness, then you should consider that other things can be illnesses, too. Handwashing isn't widely considered pleasurable, so it's easy to label doing it 500 times a day as being sick. If someone shops until they've destroyed their entire life and they still can't stop, though, that must be weak will. Why? Because shopping is considered fun?
Lol, I agree that maybe it was a little cruel and unfair to say she deserved to die, I don't see how the same could be said about my view though.
Well, not cruel at least. After what you said about the handwashing I'd agree maybe its a little unfair.
I hadn't taken OCD and people who have to do things like that into account. You're right, its pretty much the same.
After some thought, I agree. Because its fun doesn't make it just weak willed. It is very possible for someone to have this illness.
I do think though that the majority of fat people and shopaholics do not have this though and are just using it as an excuse.
If I remember correctly, in the article a friend of the deceased asked her why she had so many scarves and her reply was not "I just can't stop buying them, someone please help me." or something similar, it was "Because they are all different colours."
She was just indulging imo.
But yes, you've turned me. Its possible to have an illness that would make you shop.
I can't help but think though, if you had this urge to go shopping that to control, you would seek help, not just spend all your money. Thats what you do with illnesses.
Sure. I wouldn't even say they "use this as an excuse". They just shop a lot and that's the end of the story. If they don't ruin their lives over it, they have no reason to be considered ill.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShitFace
Emerging research about this illness shows that this is classic behavior - wanting many of the same thing in different shades is incredibly irrational, and normal people don't engage in that kind of shopping behavior. If someone doesn't know or even suspect that they're ill, why would they say "please help me, I can't stop"? The whole issue here is that it's an impulse control disorder.Quote:
If I remember correctly, in the article a friend of the deceased asked her why she had so many scarves and her reply was not "I just can't stop buying them, someone please help me." or something similar, it was "Because they are all different colours."
No, that's what you or I do with illnesses because we aren't suffering from them, so we have the rationality and presence of mind to identify problems and work to fix them. Someone with these illnesses probably isn't even aware that there is help available - or that they even need help. They probably just struggle with guilt, feeling like they're out of control, but never to the point where they imagine a doctor might be needed. They probably just assume they're worthless and lack willpower, so then they get depressed and that only fuels the flames of their addiction even more.Quote:
if you had this urge to go shopping that to control, you would seek help, not just spend all your money. Thats what you do with illnesses.