Mazda 3i Touring vs Lancer ES

I need a new car. I want a fun manual ride with a stiff suspension and great handling...

I've drove both of these cars but I just can't decide which one I should get, give me some opinions!

Neither. If you're going to get a Jap car, I would look at Subaru. The Legacy GT's are pretty quick. Or you could go with the Impreza line up and get a WRX. If you don't have much of a budget, go for an STI. I rode in an STI a few months ago and it surprised the hell out of me. It's also very stiff and sort of uncomfortable.

I like subarus, I might go test drive an impreza 2.5i the WRX is way out of my budget and insurance is also a factor.... what do you think about Kias?

Kia ranks up there with Suzuki on my own personal list of the worst vehicles to purchase in America. I would never own either of them. They just strike me as being cheaply manufactured and slow.

Check out the Impreza and Legacy GT's from Subaru. I think you'll like them.

I once got stuck in a compact rental and it was a lancer. Wouldn't wish it upon anyone.

I've also been stuck with a Kia but it was in Australia. I wouldn't recommend it.

+1 harner

sti's are fresh and i hate asian cars