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    Default Ask me about the LHC at CERN

    I've been pretty interested in this thing and have read a shitload about it, so ask away! I can't guarantee my answers will be accurate but who knows!

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    I've also been pretty interested about it as well, but unfortunately I've also read up a lot about it lol.
    How about we just discuss it instead.

    So how about that god particle huh?
    Do you think they'll find the evidence of it?
    How will this change how we view physics do you think.

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    What hadronic reactions are likely to produce supersymmetric pairs at the electroweak energy scale?

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    Ok well yeah I can't answer that. I just read about it and the vague description of what it is doing.
    I'm studying computing not physics.

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    Oh that's okay, I'm sure Rick Scarf will be able to answer the question because he's an expert on it.

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    Everything you need to know about the LHC can be found here:


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    Watch it from the webcam
    Link

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    Everything you need to know about the LHC can be found here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
    This reminds me of the "Physics Sing Along" that they have at every American Physical Society March Meeting.

    I can proudly say I never have attended a single one, but I have seen some of the songs they sing, and they make me want to destroy whatever part of my brain is responsible for giving me the ability to sing and hear melodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    This reminds me of the "Physics Sing Along" that they have at every American Physical Society March Meeting.

    I can proudly say I never have attended a single one, but I have seen some of the songs they sing, and they make me want to destroy whatever part of my brain is responsible for giving me the ability to sing and hear melodies.
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=UTby_e4-Rhg

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    Quote Originally Posted by solecistic View Post
    Everything you need to know about the LHC can be found here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
    Did the CERN team actually do that cos that would be hysterical.

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    It's the end of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutton View Post
    That's math, not physics.

    Here's the real horror that is the APS Sing-A-Long *cringe*

    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=vXHw8nTbMBc
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=YQxwHc...eature=related
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=lFenGkzg89Y
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx1np0...eature=related

    Oh and look at the people in the audience. In the last URL, there's one guy scratching his chin while he's singing like he's listening to a lecture or something.
    Last edited by sycld; 09-17-2008 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShitFace View Post
    So how about that god particle huh?
    Do you think they'll find the evidence of it?
    How will this change how we view physics do you think.
    Well, I think the "God particle" thing is a little bit much - it was probably mentioned once and the papers ran with it because it sounds so awesome. Really, the higgs bosons (there could be more than one type) are just what they think give particles mass and why a proton weighs so much more (like 1000x) than an electron. I am not sure if they will find evidence for it, but I think they will find evidence of SOMETHING, to at least either confirm the Standard Model or to let us know we need to be looking for a different answer. The Standard Model is very messy and one would think the theory of everything would be a lot prettier and require less patching up - we're definitely missing something, we just don't know what yet. Hopefully we will find something unlike anything we were looking for, as we could learn so much more if we only knew what direction we needed to focus on.

    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    What hadronic reactions are likely to produce supersymmetric pairs at the electroweak energy scale?
    I am not a particle physicist nor a theorist. But since I am wrong and you are being a smart ass, maybe you should just google it, it seems that question is answered many times over - What hadronic reactions are likely to produce supersymmetric pairs at the electroweak energy scale? - Google Search
    It would seem we haven't yet been able to experimentally prove supersymmetry, so that shows our model is likely broken and hopefully the higher energies archived in the LHC collisions should clear that up because it has enough power to make them happen if they ever will. SUSY is a whore sometimes like that. As far as I can tell from googling, it should appear at a low energy level with a quark or boson.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShitFace View Post
    Did the CERN team actually do that cos that would be hysterical.
    Yes it was made by a young lady that works there, in her free time. They laid down an acapella rap and she set it to music and video afterwards. Those are all real people that work in CERN that are featured in the video. Most of the community likes the video, but some of the old codgers don't like it because it dumbs down the science too much.
    Last edited by thank mr skeltal; 09-17-2008 at 12:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Scarf View Post
    I've been pretty interested in this thing and have read a shitload about it, so ask away! I can't guarantee my answers will be accurate but who knows!
    Why does it need a month to warm up, can't they liek throw in a couple of heaters to speed things up?

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    Doesn't matter now anyway really does it? It's broken till like next spring or something.

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    Since it operates at about 2 degrees above absolute zero, it takes time to warm it up so people can get in there to fix it, and time to cool it down to operational temperatures. You're talking about a 27km circle here, so yes it takes a couple months to make those temperature changes.

    They shut it down for the winter because the rest of the country has higher needs for power, and run it in the summers when there is plenty of energy. (I think it's run off of France's extra nuclear power, so if it wasn't using that extra energy it would've just gone to waste anyway). So by the time they would get it back down cold enough, it would be time to shut it down for the winter anyway. They might be able to get it back online long enough to run some more tests but I very much doubt that they will be any collisions happening until next summer.

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    Hawking Radiation t/f?

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    True, I wasn't aware there was much dispute about it. Without HR, the belief in blackhole wouldn't be as solid as it is. They are pretty much accepted commonplace science now, but 20 years ago it was just science fiction.

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    From what I understand it is still unproven.

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    Higgs Boson, sounds like the name was taken straight from Pugwash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    From what I understand it is still unproven.
    Well leaving aside the difficulty in "proving" scientific theories, Hawking Radiation is pretty much solid science - it's directly implied by Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

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