Quantum of Solace
I'm looking forward to this one. I thought Daniel Craig would be a crappy Bond but he's actually really cool and it showed in Casino Royale. I enjoyed that and I'm hoping for more of the same in the newest bond.
No one does action like Bond.
Anyone else looking forward to this?
I didn't care for Casino Royale. And Quantum (1. quantity or amount: the least quantum of evidence. 2. a particular amount. 3. a share or portion. 4. a large quantity; bulk.5. Physics.) of Solace (alleviation or comfort)?
WTF? I liked the title Octopussy better. Or even Moonraker!
Originally Posted by ozzy
I don't care for the title but honestly who gives a shit. If the movie is good then yay.
I got my ticket pre-ordered for tomorrow. I'm pumped. I thought Casino Royale was a great restart of the franchise. Craig's Bond is way more badass that Brosnan's ever was.
Craig's bond is less seduction, more raw and brutal, along the lines of Sean Connery's Bond years ago.
Bond will change based on what the viewing people want. Fighting and boxing were coming up during the first bonds with Connery, hence the brutality you saw there. Today MMA is making it big, violence is all around us, and we crave it as consumers, so Bond has once again changed to please the audience.
Yeah because an 'amount' of 'comfort' doesn't make any sense at all as a concept, does it?
Actually this title makes perfect sense as the underlying motif of the movie is:
durr
No it isn't.
I was wasted and saw the midnight showing last night but what I remember of it:
The action was great, the plot did a good job of tying up the Casino Royale story without being an overt sequel; at no time did I get the sense that the plot of this movie was taking backburner to closing up the last. The Bond girls are both hot, and the movie isn't snore-worthy.
If you liked Casino Royale, you'll enjoy this. If you didn't like the character's lack of subtlety in Casino Royale, don't expect much to change in this one.
To be honest, Daniel Craig's Bond is very similar to Timothy Dalton's in Licence To Kill. That was also very raw, dark, violent but not over the top.
And although Licence to Kill was clearly underfunded (looked/felt more like a TV movie) and there was still a few too many Bond cliches (daft gadgets, stupid one-liners etc.) I'd still say it's a very underrated movie and certainly in the top 10. Maybe even in my top 5 (at a push).
Quantum of Solace definitely derivates from status-quo Bond. The gadgets, one-liners, Q are not really evident here. He actually doesn't even say "Bond, James Bond"
Well I mean they are trying to start a new direction for Bond. So I won't mind if it doesn't use all of the old classic Bond formulas. Plus, nobody can replace Q.
Q am dead IRL....
Wasn't John Cleese gonna replace him as some other crazy Letter?
I'll be seeing this very soon, as I'm a die-hard bond fan
lik dis if u cry evertim
duh, that did happen in Pierce Brosnon Bonds ok?
But the new Bond movies are a younger less refined Bond, so I don't mind the style change. I imagine as the series progresses we'll get back to what we're used to. We're just getting to see the evolution from not even a 00 in Casino Royale to him becoming super awesome smooth spy man.
R.
Saw QoS tonight. It was pretty good. Wasn't Casino Royale...but it was good. The Bond series is off to a good fresh start
I hate the new James Bond.
No, I think they're just sticking more faithfully to the books. I presume someone read them and thought "these are awesome! why didn't we make them more like this before?"
If It's anything like Casino Royale, I will be seeing it.
They made bond movies without sean connery?
What's the point of that?
pierce brosnan
I'm supposed to be seeing this tonight if one of my friends gets off work in time. I'm not sure how pumped I am about it but meh, Casino Royale didn't totally suck, if this one is of similar caliber then it'll at least be acceptable.
brosnan was easily the best bond just with the worst movies
wow hell no
i liked brosnan but no
Just wrong. He was a perfectly decent Bond but by no means the best.
Also, Goldeneye is one of the best Bond films there is.
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Yeah, if you completely ignore the rules of grammar.
what who else is better
sean connery's awesome but he's not bond. (sean connery never acts. he just plays sean connery in a hat.) neither is craig. they're other action heroes. bond was truest when he was smooth, seductive, suave and tuxedoed, and that means he was truest when played by roger moore and pierce brosnan. brosnan had the attitude and the accent and the whole package. he was sharper and more refined than roger moore. and, since roger moore is better than all the rest, that makes brosnan the best.
sean connery is james bond
how dare you
how dare you
Gwahir is right
sean connery's james bond is sean connery with a gun
George Lazenby is the best Bond ever.
sean connery with a gun is james bond to me now and forever
you can't touch this
Wasn't Moore like the worst bond?
Also Sean Connery or gtfo, Brosnan was awesome and all, but Connery is the absolute sex,
lik dis if u cry evertim
I'm going to go ahead and say that this was pretty horrible compared to Casino Royale.
Whoever was responsible for the editing needs to be shot.
Moore as James Bond = Grandpa fucking young chicks.
I've already said Timothy Dalton was a very underrated Bond. Also, George Lazenby was pretty decent, that movie was just ruined by Telly Savalas as Blofeld (which was sacrilegious after Donald Pleasence's portrayal) and the incredibly depressing ending.
Also, Sean Connery's Bond is quite different to his other roles, and he defined Bond so well, he was (and is) the best.
Um to be honest, gwahir, to say that Sean Connery isn't the iconic Bond is just a joke. Without Connery, there is no Pierce Brosnan to honor with a comparison. You argue all you want about the direction each subsequent actor has taken the character, but Bond is Connery.
I saw QoS last night, and it was alright - it strayed away from what makes Bond, Bond. He isnt just some guy on a revenge mission shooting everything up anytime he gets into trouble. Where were the gadgets?
wtf
Definatly not my favourite bond film. And I hated the intro track, its been over used by coke for their adverts, im sick to death of that song.
Connery is the original bond - NUFF SAID
Does that mean the Beatles has to be my favorite band because I love rock and roll? Absolutely not. I have to give my due respects to the Beatles because of what they did, but there are bands that I enjoy far more. Even if they cover Beatles songs.
If not Connery, someone else would have been cast anyway.
"sean connery is not bond"
the corollary for your situation, Mal, is to say that because you liked 90s grunge much better than the beatles, they should not be considered rock and roll.
That's not the corollary at all. That's a corollary applied to his statement based on what I said. You can't mix and match like that. Connery is not Bond, as Bond is not real. Just because he was the first doesn't mean he has to be the best.
To be honest I think that was half of the problem with Brosnan's movies. You have 15 Chekhov's guns running around and it just becomes formulaic. Now that the newer movies have run with the idea that multiple individuals have owned the agent James Bond, it makes sense that there is a learning curve for the job. The movie really wasn't about his revenge, it was about his stopping terrorists. The revenge angle helped flesh out the relationship between M and Bond, carrying the theme of Casino Royale in that he was viewed as perhaps too much of a rogue for the job. The tone of the movie was Bond proving he wasn't working for revenge.
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I think it gives filmmakers more options with where they want to take the character in the future. So many of Brosnan's movies were about the development of technology, not characters. I mean once you have a fucking invisible car where do you go from there? A flying car? Followed by an invisible flying car?
Also as far as Bond Themes go, I thought Shirley Bassey's "Goldfinger", The Beatles' "Live and Let Die" and Duran Duran's "A View to a Kill" were the best. I thought Madonna's "Die Another Day" was okay and hated Chris Cornell's song for Casino Royale. I now think "Another Way to Die" is one of the top 3, and I think Jack White and Alicia Keys are prolific enough artists to deserve the spot as one of the great Bond themes.
The world is not enough still stands as my favorite movie. I think the worst movie was Tomorrow Never Dies. I just don't care for the story. As for Quantum of Solace, I may go see it this weekend if time allows me to.
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