Cop Shoots Handcuffed Man in the Back (Video)

**bacon ops** · 01-07-2009, 08:25 PM

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAI9153CBO.DTL

The 22-year-old man killed by a BART police officer early New Year's Day was lying face-down on the train platform, his hands behind him waiting to be cuffed, when he was shot in the back, a lawyer newly hired by the man's family said Saturday.

Yet another reason police should be the only people to "have" guns.

Another interesting fact is that these 5 people were being detained as witnesses.

Video here

http://crypto.nsa.org/f-21/nye-2008-...t-shooting.wmv

**Pepsi** · 01-08-2009, 12:02 AM

Wow. Just...wow.

**bacon ops** · 01-08-2009, 04:47 PM

What's funny is, the guy shoots him in the back, and all the people can do is run away.

No riot, nothing.

They just run.

**Killuminati** · 01-08-2009, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by bacon ops

What's funny is, the guy shoots him in the back, and all the people can do is run away.

No riot, nothing.

They just run.

Yea lets riot when this guy just shot someone in the back while he was lying down. They rioted after they felt they weren't going to get shot. Here is an article about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/us/09oakland.html

**bacon ops** · 01-08-2009, 11:19 PM

“My message is, cool it out there, folks,” Mayor Ron V. Dellums said. “This is not a game.”

This made me sick to my stomach, and I'm not even saying that figuratively.

I am livid.

This fat bureaucrat gets to go home, and not think about it at all.

The cops had no right to detain those people, man. Much less to point any guns at them, regardless of whether or not the pulling of the trigger was intentional or not. If a private citizen so much as aims a weapon at another person, it's a serious crime.

**gismo** · 01-09-2009, 02:23 AM

Yea, it would have been better if everyone involved had guns, then they could have had a gun fight with the cops, which would have been a better outcome.

I mean...you simply cannot justify shooting a handcuffed person in the back like that. If nothing happens, if nothing gets done to punish the cops involved then I do hope the shit does hit the fan, people cannot stand for that.

**bacon ops** · 01-09-2009, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by gismo

Yea, it would have been better if everyone involved had guns, then they could have had a gun fight with the cops, which would have been a better outcome.

I mean...you simply cannot justify shooting a handcuffed person in the back like that. If nothing happens, if nothing gets done to punish the cops involved then I do hope the shit does hit the fan, people cannot stand for that.

I didn't say that guns should be passed out to a mob of angry teenagers.

What I did mean is that police aren't the holy jedi that anti-gun people make them out to be.

**dudeman** · 01-09-2009, 03:40 AM

Saw this video a few days ago. I'm glad technology has evolved to the point when we can capture such atrocities on camera.

However, there is not a doubt in my mind that this cop is going to get off.

**gwahir** · 01-09-2009, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by bacon ops

I didn't say that guns should be passed out to a mob of angry teenagers.

What I did mean is that police aren't the holy jedi that anti-gun people make them out to be.

Er, who makes them out to be that? :S Only idiots.

I don't see how anyone having a gun would've benefited this situation. Alright, it shows that some cops are either morons or evil bastards, but that really does nothing for the gun debate.

**Infected7** · 01-09-2009, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by bacon ops

The cops had no right to detain those people, man.

Originally Posted by News Article

Burris also said witnesses told him that the fight on the train was apparently between Grant and an older man he hadn't previously met. For unknown reasons, he said, the two men shouted at each other, then grabbed and wrestled with one another, and continued grappling when the train reached Fruitvale.

You don't find assault cause enough for a police officer to detain people and find out what happened?

**Anonymous D** · 01-09-2009, 11:50 AM

More gun would not have helped. Plus Im willing to bet all of those people were wasted.

But yea, I dont see why they are saying how was laying there cooperation, he was struggling, you can see it. But shooting him in the back? Thats ridiculous. Looks to me like he went to draw on him and had a A.D. Which is still no excuse to murder someone. Just because it was an accident doesnt mean you can get off scott free.

**Killuminati** · 01-09-2009, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous D

More gun would not have helped. Plus Im willing to bet all of those people were wasted.

But yea, I dont see why they are saying how was laying there cooperation, he was struggling, you can see it. But shooting him in the back? Thats ridiculous. Looks to me like he went to draw on him and had a A.D. Which is still no excuse to murder someone. Just because it was an accident doesnt mean you can get off scott free.

I don't know if it was an accident or not, it kind of seems like it but I don't know. I hope he goes to jail for a long time, he should be treated just like a normal person and hopefully to the fullest extent of the law.

**bacon ops** · 01-09-2009, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Infected7

You don't find assault cause enough for a police officer to detain people and find out what happened?

The cops had a good reason to detain those people, man.

**MrShrike** · 01-13-2009, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by bacon ops

What I did mean is that police aren't the holy jedi that anti-gun people make them out to be.

Which is an idiotic assessment of anti-gun positions. Both sides of the debate pro and anti-gun recognize that police are not perfect.

How this particular incident has any bearing on the gun debate is beyond me, unless you propose this situation would have been better if police are disarmed, or if the people in custody were armed.

**[racist] butt king** · 01-13-2009, 04:53 AM

I think most problems in the world would be solved if you gave every civilian a gun and took all the guns away from military organizations and police

**Sion** · 01-13-2009, 05:21 PM

someone should follow you around and just record everything you say and present it as the perfect, unfailable argument about why some people shouldn't be allowed to breed.

**[racist] butt king** · 01-13-2009, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Sion

someone should follow you around and just record everything you say and present it as the perfect, unfailable argument about why some people shouldn't be allowed to breed.

you really could have boiled this reply down to "you win the internet" or something

**Sion** · 01-13-2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by [racist] butt king

you really could have boiled this reply down to "you win the internet" or something

I prefer my answer
seriously man its uncanny

**bacon ops** · 01-14-2009, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by MrShrike

Which is an idiotic assessment of anti-gun positions. Both sides of the debate pro and anti-gun recognize that police are not perfect.

How this particular incident has any bearing on the gun debate is beyond me, unless you propose this situation would have been better if police are disarmed, or if the people in custody were armed.

Can I get an Ell, Oh, ell, anybody?

"Yeah, basically, we don't trust you with those pesky "unalienable rights", so we're going to try and take away these things from you, and make sure that only a select few people in funny clothes get them, because they're better than you, and for the children, etc..."

Anyway, point is, shitsux, guy got "accidentally" executed, bla bla bla.

**Anonymous D** · 01-14-2009, 01:29 PM

The cop got arrested and is being charged with murder.

**Killuminati** · 01-14-2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous D

The cop got arrested and is being charged with murder.

Damn I was just going to post that. Here is the article about it.

article

**Anonymous D** · 01-15-2009, 04:04 PM

So from what Ive been reading, people think the cop may have thought the gun was his taser. Cause he drew, and shot 3 seconds later.

And the frame of a taser and a Glock are very similar, and with all that adrenaline pumping, it would be hard to tell teh difference that quick by touch alone. Thats why most officers keep their gun on their strong side and the tazer on the weak side and cross draw.

But he is probably going to get something like manslaughter.