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    Default Petition to save the M-14s.

    The govt is trying to destroy about 300,000 M-14s and not get a thing for them when they could take out the full auto parts, and sell them, through the CMP and get $300-600 million for them. So sign the damn petition.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/M14CMP03/petition.html
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    I'm English so not only is my signature invalid, I actively encourage your government to both destroy firearms and lose money.

    Is there a petition I can sign in support of this act per chance?

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    Ahahahah simon.

    Isn't $1000-2000 a pop rather high for those rifles? A lot of them must be pretty beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syme View Post
    Ahahahah simon.

    Isn't $1000-2000 a pop rather high for those rifles? A lot of them must be pretty beat.
    Who knows. I just copied the numbers from the site. Didnt really do the math. Hopefully they would go for around like $800 for the ones in good condition. They said a bunch of them were unissued though.
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    I was number 28157 to sign it. Did it cause I hate to see guns be destroyed. I wish they'd just sell them as class 3 weapons tho. It'd kinda flood the market and might drop the price a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I was number 28157 to sign it. Did it cause I hate to see guns be destroyed. I wish they'd just sell them as class 3 weapons tho. It'd kinda flood the market and might drop the price a bit.
    Thats the thing about them. In the ATFs eyes, once a machine gun, always a machine gun.
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    If they were made after '86, they can't be sold to civilians as f.a weapons. Furthermore, you can't just take out the full auto parts to legally make it a semi-only weapon. You have to like cut up the receiver.

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    that, like, sounds like a reputable source for information

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    Quote Originally Posted by crunker View Post
    If they were made after '86, they can't be sold to civilians as f.a weapons. Furthermore, you can't just take out the full auto parts to legally make it a semi-only weapon. You have to like cut up the receiver.
    They could easily be made semi auto. If you read the page it pretty much tells you what they have to do. They wouldnt be easily converted back to full auto either. Like I said, to the ATF, once a MG, always an MG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I I wish they'd just sell them as class 3 weapons tho. It'd kinda flood the market and might drop the price a bit.
    I think this is probably the biggest reason why the govt isn't going to sell them on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonj View Post
    I think this is probably the biggest reason why the govt isn't going to sell them on.
    I doubt it, because if they did sell them at all, it wouldn't be as class 3 weapons, but as semiauto conversions. CMP specifically states that they have never and will never sell fully automatic weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crunker View Post
    If they were made after '86, they can't be sold to civilians as f.a weapons. Furthermore, you can't just take out the full auto parts to legally make it a semi-only weapon. You have to like cut up the receiver.
    All the M14s were made in the Fifties and early Sixties. As for this petition I doubt it will do any good. The BATFE has some odd rules, and taking the FA parts out of these (remember that a majority of M14s have already been converted to SA only) will not remove their status as "machine guns". Speaking of the FA parts, of over 140 M14s in my last unit I only had one selector switch, which was supposedly a big no-no for even the Armsroom to possess. Don't know what happened to it, my predecessor left and it disappeared.

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    How did you manage 140? Our company only got one per platoon(the new, high speed socom-ish ones), and we're not even allowed to use them anyway. The new ROE in Iraq prevents us from doing so, I guess.

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    We used them daily for ceremonies and such. When I first got there some were missing the firing pin and extractor as Secret Service doesn't even trust those of us in uniform. By the time I left all but a handful were fully functional and they were gauged annually just like our tactical weapons.

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    i bet there's also a great private market for fissionable material. i wonder why the government isn't exploiting that either.


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    You mad bro?
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    naw dog, just asking a q. 4 srs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous D View Post
    You mad bro?
    He's goading, and you appear to be taking him at face value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syme View Post
    He's goading, and you appear to be taking him at face value.
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