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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    atmosfear, you're becoming a huge vagina.

    no, AI sucked, and if people are having pseudo-intellectual discussions in places where they can be told how stupid what they're saying is then it's for the better.
    If you were capable of reading and/or cognition you would see that I wasn't asking for different posting standards in AI compared to any other forum. Typical of you, you made a dumbfuck assumption before reading the thread. You're exactly the type of moronic troll that AI was made to keep out, except that instead of stupid posting standards, we'll just bury it as a subforum.

    You also seem to be of the opinion that it's more important for people who want to have meaningful discussions to be able to be made fun of than it is for OPs to be able to keep their threads on-topic. Fucktard trolls like you who opposed infractions and then further oppose non-moderator solutions really ought to just stay out of SSQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atmosfear View Post
    If you were capable of reading and/or cognition you would see that I wasn't asking for different posting standards in AI compared to any other forum. Typical of you, you made a dumbfuck assumption before reading the thread. You're exactly the type of moronic troll that AI was made to keep out, except that instead of stupid posting standards, we'll just bury it as a subforum.

    You also seem to be of the opinion that it's more important for people who want to have meaningful discussions to be able to be made fun of than it is for OPs to be able to keep their threads on-topic. Fucktard trolls like you who opposed infractions and then further oppose non-moderator solutions really ought to just stay out of SSQ.
    I just don't get it, really.

    You're seriously one of the biggest trolls on these forums, or at least you used to be back when it was LWS/CD I. You even became a moderator just so you could troll with your moderator powers. Just another example of your typical hypocrisy where anything you do is fine, but other people should have their actions reigned in.

    Where exactly did I say that I was asking for a different posting standard from other forums? Maybe you're the one that needs to brush up on his reading comprehension.

    Also, yeah, I like making fun of people that take themselves too seriously or inflate the novelty of their own stupid derivative ideas and calling them out on it when they do. Maybe if CD had a critical mass of intelligent people that actually had critical thinking skills, then I would support this. But as it stands, it doesn't.

    In addition, I don't oppose the infraction system, though I don't know if it's time to implement it yet. Which post made you think that I was completely opposed to infractions-- the one that said "CD does rule!" or the one that said that http://letmegooglethatforyou.com is awesome? Or are you just making a "dumbfuck assumption" as usual?

    Finally, you seem to like forgetting how inane AI was in LWS. The most intelligent conversations were probably in CD, while AI was a forum for 13 year old philosophers that wouldn't recognize a logical fallacy if it bit them on the nose.

    In conclusion: just shut the fuck up atmosfear. You have absolutely no room to call others out on anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    I just don't get it, really.

    You're seriously one of the biggest trolls on these forums, or at least you used to be back when it was LWS/CD I. You even became a moderator just so you could troll with your moderator powers. Just another example of your typical hypocrisy where anything you do is fine, but other people should have their actions reigned in.
    With greater contribution comes greater leniency. This has always been the way it has worked whether it was permaban followed by unbanning a week later, mods looking the other way, or warnings instead of infractions. The reason the majority of the best posters have all been banned one or more times is because when you contribute, minor violations are overlooked.

    Examples of contributions include things like epic threads, hard work as a mod, development and furtherment of memes, seniority, wit, etc. This isn't the way I make things work, this is the way they have worked since before 2007 (or whenever you got here, worthless babby)

    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    Where exactly did I say that I was asking for a different posting standard from other forums? Maybe you're the one that needs to brush up on his reading comprehension.
    "if people are having pseudo-intellectual discussions in places where they can be told how stupid what they're saying is then it's for the better."

    Since this is already the case, you are implying that a new location (AI) would prevent this. The means of preventing this is stricter rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    Also, yeah, I like making fun of people that take themselves too seriously or inflate the novelty of their own stupid derivative ideas and calling them out on it when they do. Maybe if CD had a critical mass of intelligent people that actually had critical thinking skills, then I would support this. But as it stands, it doesn't.
    hurfdurf mouth-breathing. Ignoring for a second that none of that is a part of the stated purpose of reviving AI, the fact that there is nothing here to attract "intelligent people that actually had critical thinking skills" would tend to prevent those types of people from showing up. There is no emo forum, so there are no emos. There is no forum that requires thoughtful discussion, so there are no people who seek out thoughtful discussion.

    And nowhere in here did I say the purpose was for intelligent people with critical thinking skills to have a place to have philosophical discussions. The purpose was to prevent derailment of otherwise viable threads only minimally related to those discussions by providing an easy place to conduct them. When a bunch of militiafags started posting about guns, we effectively brought back The Armory.

    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    In addition, I don't oppose the infraction system, though I don't know if it's time to implement it yet. Which post made you think that I was completely opposed to infractions-- the one that said "CD does rule!" or the one that said that http://letmegooglethatforyou.com is awesome? Or are you just making a "dumbfuck assumption"?
    Same difference.

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    Finally, you seem to like forgetting how inane AI was in LWS. The most intelligent conversations were probably in CD, while AI was a forum for 13 year old philosophers that wouldn't recognize a logical fallacy if it bit them on the nose.
    Not the same purpose

    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    In conclusion: just shut the fuck up atmosfear. You have absolutely no room to call others out on anything.
    The next time you bitch about me getting special treatment, don't try to use a meme I created, fucking knuckledragger.

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    To be honest, I really don't are if AI comes back or not. I didn't really care that much in the first place to argue the point to this extent.


    Quote Originally Posted by Atmosfear View Post
    With greater contribution comes greater leniency. This has always been the way it has worked whether it was permaban followed by unbanning a week later, mods looking the other way, or warnings instead of infractions. The reason the majority of the best posters have all been banned one or more times is because when you contribute, minor violations are overlooked.

    Examples of contributions include things like epic threads, hard work as a mod, development and furtherment of memes, seniority, wit, etc. This isn't the way I make things work, this is the way they have worked since before 2007 (or whenever you got here, worthless babby)
    What do you want, a fucking ribbon? Your dick sucked?

    That's how every forum works, but you take it to a whole other level. Handing out warnings instead of infractions is one thing, but becoming a mod just to fuck things up is completely different.

    "if people are having pseudo-intellectual discussions in places where they can be told how stupid what they're saying is then it's for the better."

    Since this is already the case, you are implying that a new location (AI) would prevent this. The means of preventing this is stricter rules.
    And your stated purpose is to prevent people from having side-arguments or from having threads de-railed, which would also require stricter rules.

    hurfdurf mouth-breathing. Ignoring for a second that none of that is a part of the stated purpose of reviving AI, the fact that there is nothing here to attract "intelligent people that actually had critical thinking skills" would tend to prevent those types of people from showing up. There is no emo forum, so there are no emos. There is no forum that requires thoughtful discussion, so there are no people who seek out thoughtful discussion.

    And nowhere in here did I say the purpose was for intelligent people with critical thinking skills to have a place to have philosophical discussions. The purpose was to prevent derailment of otherwise viable threads only minimally related to those discussions by providing an easy place to conduct them. When a bunch of militiafags started posting about guns, we effectively brought back The Armory.
    and again, having AI in CD I or LWS didn't suddenly bring in a boat load of intelligent people.

    Same difference.
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    Not the same purpose
    How are you going to make it different then, aside from just saying that it's going to be different?

    The next time you bitch about me getting special treatment, don't try to use a meme I created, fucking knuckledragger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    You even became a moderator just so you could troll with your moderator powers.
    Man it is a good thing that Atmosfear is capable of granting himself mod powers on any forum of his choosing. This was a fine display of critical thinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    Also, yeah, I like making fun of people that take themselves too seriously or inflate the novelty of their own stupid derivative ideas and calling them out on it when they do.
    This is what this forum is for.

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    Finally, you seem to like forgetting how inane AI was in LWS. The most intelligent conversations were probably in CD, while AI was a forum for 13 year old philosophers that wouldn't recognize a logical fallacy if it bit them on the nose.
    Did you say the most intelligent conversations in LWS were in CD? That's a load of bullshit. Even with it's massive user-base (admittedly, mostly emos), lws still only had a handful of people who could come up with an intelligent argument and argue it without having to resort to flaming and cussing. I challenge you to find a single thread in the LWS and CD archives that rivals in the clear thinking and presentation of Exodite Prime or Pansophist.

    There are enough people here who can intelligently argue a point to warrant a subforum for them.

    edit: ignoring the fact that this argument doesn't particularly apply to me, I fail to understand why sycld is so rabid about this subforum.
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    edit: ignoring the fact that this argument doesn't particularly apply to me, I fail to understand why sycld is so rabid about this subforum.
    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    To be honest, I really don't are if AI comes back or not. I didn't really care that much in the first place to argue the point to this extent.
    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
    Man it is a good thing that Atmosfear is capable of granting himself mod powers on any forum of his choosing. This was a fine display of critical thinking.
    Did I ever say that Atmosfear granted himself modding powers? Also you don't know what I'm referring to since you weren't here, and I don't feel like explaining anything to you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sycld View Post
    Did I ever say that Atmosfear granted himself modding powers? Also you don't know what I'm referring to since you weren't here, and I don't feel like explaining anything to you.
    Perhaps I oversimplified it. You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by sycld
    You even became a moderator just so you could troll with your moderator powers.
    The implication is that the only reason that Atmosfear became a mod was so that he could troll with greater effect, but to become a moderator means he has to have shown an outstanding contribution or quality of character on the forums that the admins are willing to grant him these powers. If his sole intention was simply to troll the forums, he would not have become a mod as admins generally do not mod trolls. Since he is, nevertheless, a mod, the astounding leap in logic comes from him granting himself these powers, as no sane admin would do so to a troll of the calibre that you describe.

    Also dismissing me based on the fact that you don't feel like explaining yourself means that you yourself are one of those terrible AI posters who shouldn't be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post
    Perhaps I oversimplified it. You said:



    The implication is that the only reason that Atmosfear became a mod was so that he could troll with greater effect, but to become a moderator means he has to have shown an outstanding contribution or quality of character on the forums that the admins are willing to grant him these powers. If his sole intention was simply to troll the forums, he would not have become a mod as admins generally do not mod trolls. Since he is, nevertheless, a mod, the astounding leap in logic comes from him granting himself these powers, as no sane admin would do so to a troll of the calibre that you describe.

    Also dismissing me based on the fact that you don't feel like explaining yourself means that you yourself are one of those terrible AI posters who shouldn't be there.
    lol lurk mor newb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coqauvin View Post

    Also dismissing me based on the fact that you don't feel like explaining yourself means that you yourself are one of those terrible AI posters who shouldn't be there.
    I JUST DON'T FUCKING FEEL LIKE POSTING IN THIS THREAD OR FUCKING TALKING TO YOU, THAT'S WHY I DON'T FEEL LIKE EXPLAINING IT OKAY?

    Jesus. I don't fucking care if there's a fucking AI forum or not.
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