Reputation

**Cryptic** · 03-02-2009, 08:40 AM

I know what you all are going to say, but I'm NOT bitching about my rep. I could really care less what people think or what color my scale is because obvoiusly I'm not going to stop posting here.

But the thing is, I've gotten both negative and positive rep in the last few days, especially the last day when the discussion of the colors came up, that say things like "test" and "red?" and "just seeing what happens". Why do we even have a rep system at all if this is how it's going to be used? Say what you will about me, but any time I've used it, I've used it to actually provide REAL feedback on somebody's post.

I mean seriously, do we need it?

**gwahir** · 03-02-2009, 08:48 AM

Most users of it use it constructively and/or humourously. If you're feeling like you're being treated unfairly, report it to an admin (probably tengu or maybe sole, because I don't know what I'm doing with the rep system).

Of course we don't need it, but I think it adds something rather nice and I think most people feel the same way, if they have an opinion at all. Like sole said:

Originally Posted by solecistic

I think the rep system can make people post better. If it makes even the slightest bit of difference, I think it's worth keeping.

**Cryptic** · 03-02-2009, 08:52 AM

It's not about being treated fairly or unfairly, because obviously a lot of people aren't even using it humorously much less constuctively, they're just seeing what color they can get people's scales to turn and how many reps it takes in one direction to get it to happen. I hardly think that's worth reporting to a mod because it doesn't make any difference, I just personally think it's turned into a useless feature that doesn't make the slightest bit of difference.

**gwahir** · 03-02-2009, 08:53 AM

The cases you are talking about are an aberration. On the whole it is being used well.

**sycld** · 03-02-2009, 09:13 AM

Just wondering, has the option to disable rep been removed? Usually people can disable their reputation if they wish.

**coqauvin** · 03-02-2009, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by sycld

Just wondering, has the option to disable rep been removed? Usually people can disable their reputation if they wish.

this isn 't a good idea

all men must be equal before the law

**djwolford** · 03-02-2009, 10:17 AM

Word. Then when people get in the red for being terrible posters, they can avoid a ban when they get to -50 by disabling their rep.

**TheOriginalGrumpySpy** · 03-02-2009, 11:43 AM

At one point there was an option to hide it.

**Pepsi** · 03-02-2009, 11:47 AM

Let me get this straight...you're not bitching about your rep by bitching about your rep?

Also, in all likelihood, you're getting negrepped because someone did not like your post and thought their comment was funny. They were just too scared to sign it. There are no regulations on the rep system, and, for the most part, your neg reps are probably from people who think you deserve it.

**Killuminati** · 03-02-2009, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

At one point there was an option to hide it.

I think this should be an option. Like being able to hide the rep bars by your name, but still have it matter.

**Mr. E** · 03-02-2009, 03:52 PM

Sometimes when I negarep I say things to throw off the people I negarepped.

This is probably happening to you Cryptic because you are a terrible poster.

**MrShrike** · 03-02-2009, 07:04 PM

Reputation is basically a summary of how everyone feels about you.

If you get 1 negarep, you may not have deserved it.

If you get 50 negareps and 5 posireps and end up in the red, you almost certainly DID deserve it. But even if you didn't, because it limits how often a specific poster can rep you, it's still a good consensus on how people feel about you.

**Pepsi** · 03-02-2009, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by MrShrike

Reputation is basically a summary of how everyone feels about you.

If you get 1 negarep, you may not have deserved it.

If you get 50 negareps and 5 posireps and end up in the red, you almost certainly DID deserve it. But even if you didn't, because it limits how often a specific poster can rep you, it's still a good consensus on how people feel about you.

So reputation is your...reputation?

**Cryptic** · 03-02-2009, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Pepsi

Let me get this straight...you're not bitching about your rep by bitching about your rep?

No, I'm not bitching about MY rep. I'm just saying putting "test" and "I wonder what this does" just to see how many reps puts someone in the red is NOT a reflection of my rep or anyone else's. I'm not in the negative because I deserve to be in the negative, I'm in the negative because someone decided to "test". My point, since you so obviously missed it, was if this is how the rep system is going to be used, why have one at all?

ETA - Is there at least a way to stop people from repping anonymously? That way, I think people would be less inclined to misuse or abuse the system.

**Pepsi** · 03-02-2009, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cryptic

No, I'm not bitching about MY rep. I'm just saying putting "test" and "I wonder what this does" just to see how many reps puts someone in the red is NOT a reflection of my rep or anyone else's. I'm not in the negative because I deserve to be in the negative, I'm in the negative because someone decided to "test". My point, since you so obviously missed it, was if this is how the rep system is going to be used, why have one at all?

ETA - Is there at least a way to stop people from repping anonymously? That way, I think people would be less inclined to misuse or abuse the system.

apparently they wanted you in the red...if they hadn't, they wouldn't have "tested"

in other words, get over it.

**Cryptic** · 03-02-2009, 07:25 PM

I was never not over it.

People are always screaming about ways to make the board better. Not doing what is currently being done with the rep system would be one way to do that. AGAIN, that was my point. Nothing more.

**TheOriginalGrumpySpy** · 03-02-2009, 07:35 PM

You want to to take the anonymity out of the internet. My god. You're a communist.

**coqauvin** · 03-02-2009, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy

You want to to take the anonymity out of the internet. My god. You're a communist.

he is in the red

also cryptic what makes you think everyone is honest about what they write as a comment for the negarep? just because you provide your opinion doesn't mean anyone else should - a rep on the right post without being properly explained is still valid

**mutton** · 03-02-2009, 08:19 PM

i don't type explanations for my reps
the time is better spent posting

**DickStivers** · 03-02-2009, 09:18 PM

so who wants to fuck

let's get this thread going

**MrShrike** · 03-02-2009, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Pepsi

So reputation is your...reputation?

No.

**simonj** · 03-02-2009, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by DickStivers

so who wants to fuck

let's get this thread going

Who doesn't?

Tidus excluded.

**solecistic** · 03-02-2009, 09:38 PM

this thread is now about hanging out with dickstivers

**gina** · 03-02-2009, 10:03 PM

sole and dique i'd hang out with you guys irl

**solecistic** · 03-02-2009, 10:10 PM

**MrShrike** · 03-02-2009, 10:11 PM

You twin gingers can rub your big red beards together

**DickStivers** · 03-02-2009, 10:28 PM

mr shrike no one here is a ginger but thanks for stopping by

**Atmosfear** · 03-02-2009, 10:50 PM

My rep turned cryptic red

**TheOriginalGrumpySpy** · 03-02-2009, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by DickStivers

mr shrike no one here is a ginger but thanks for stopping by

Yeah, well, yeah...

**DickStivers** · 03-02-2009, 10:58 PM

Ok togs...I meant the girls

**gwahir** · 03-03-2009, 01:59 AM

Cryptic, you are bitching about your rep, because as you see it, there is a problem with the rep system and that problem is happening to you.

Originally Posted by Cryptic

ETA - Is there at least a way to stop people from repping anonymously? That way, I think people would be less inclined to misuse or abuse the system.

Yes, there is. No, we're not going to do it. If people want to rep and attach their name (like Atmosfear famously does) then good on them. But if negrepping automatically tells you who did it, people will just neg each other like babies; "this is for negging me, you dick". You don't have some right to disagree with people's reps or fight back.

The fact is people are negging you because they don't like your posts. They wouldn't negrep someone with a "test" if they liked that person or that person's posts, and I think that's fairly obvious. Coqauvin summed this up nicely: just because people put shit in the explanation doesn't mean they don't still hate your post.

You're not getting negrepped because people want to play with the system. People are playing with the system because they can, while negrepping you.

**coqauvin** · 03-03-2009, 05:53 AM

hey dique we should hang out some time

coq-dique combo ftw

wait that sounds more than a little homo

**gwahir** · 03-03-2009, 07:07 AM

aww shit coq you are double glowing green

so close

**Mr. E** · 03-03-2009, 08:35 AM

How much rep do you need for double green? It is not the number I expected

**djwolford** · 03-03-2009, 09:17 AM

over 9000

**Pepsi** · 03-03-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by gwahir

Cryptic, you are bitching about your rep, because as you see it, there is a problem with the rep system and that problem is happening to you.

Yes, there is. No, we're not going to do it. If people want to rep and attach their name (like Atmosfear famously does) then good on them. But if negrepping automatically tells you who did it, people will just neg each other like babies; "this is for negging me, you dick". You don't have some right to disagree with people's reps or fight back.

The fact is people are negging you because they don't like your posts. They wouldn't negrep someone with a "test" if they liked that person or that person's posts, and I think that's fairly obvious. Coqauvin summed this up nicely: just because people put shit in the explanation doesn't mean they don't still hate your post.

You're not getting negrepped because people want to play with the system. People are playing with the system because they can, while negrepping you.

You're good at reexplaining what I say in clearer terms.

**TheOriginalGrumpySpy** · 03-03-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. E

How much rep do you need for double green? It is not the number I expected

Yep, and then it still wont be

**DaiTengu** · 03-03-2009, 01:51 PM

There's a very easy way to get reputation.

make good posts.

**Pepsi** · 03-03-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by DaiTengu

There's a very easy way to get reputation.

make good posts.

You know, not everyone can do the impossible like Jesus can.

**coqauvin** · 03-03-2009, 06:31 PM

oh yeah second bright green is 200 pts

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