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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalGrumpySpy View Post
    Google consistently denies access to its users in China. Evil? Not entirely, but against philosophy? Yes.

    But I guess in the end, some Google is better than no Google.
    Censoring themself and retaining market presence is a hell of a lot smarter than taking an ideological stand and getting blockholed. Google is a business, remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephekt View Post
    Censoring themself and retaining market presence is a hell of a lot smarter than taking an ideological stand and getting blockholed. Google is a business, remember?
    THUS MY LAST STATEMENT

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    I came to this thread to read it but instead I got repulsed by atmosfear's ego

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    Quote Originally Posted by pon\ View Post
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    lol i was going to say, that other report is from 03.
    And you're both morons because we were talking about five years ago.

    He claimed it has been widespread for more than 5 years and I showed that it wasn't in 2003. Should I spoonfeed you any further?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephekt View Post
    Source? Broadband has been pretty widespread for more than 5 years, provided you don't live in the middle of the woods, that is.


    Wait, who mentioned Gbs? I thought we were talking about Mbs? It's perfectly possible to provide home users with that bandwidth and beyond today; infrastructure is there, it's the last mile that's missing in most places. Expecting anything beyond 1Gb to the home anywhere in the next 10 years is simply ignorant though, considering that most Tier2/3s only have oc48 backbones.
    http://www.japantoday.com/category/t...service-in-oct

    That 10 years blew by fucking fast! Just kidding man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTroy View Post
    http://www.japantoday.com/category/t...service-in-oct

    That 10 years blew by fucking fast! Just kidding man...
    Couple of points here...

    I was speaking of the US, which is already 5+ years behind on broadband speeds, when I said that we wouldn't be seeing 1Gb any time soon.
    That 1Gb is probably limited to destinations inside Japan or Euroasia.
    I've already explained why they can offer faster speeds more easily than we can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benzss View Post
    I came to this thread to read it but instead I got repulsed by atmosfear's ego
    Uh haven't we met before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atmosfear View Post
    The problem with people who aren't switching to Google Chrome (or, more importantly, who are shunning Chrome and its advances) is that they aren't grasping its purpose. Chrome is effectively an OS in competition with Windows, not a browser in competition with Firefox. Chrome is built as a platform for internet applications (which are the next killer app not named Zoints!) In releasing Chrome, Google has forced IE and Firefox to change their philosophy on the browser. Google is forcing the market to focus on desktop-app stability and speed so that users can begin using its internet apps in direct competition to products like MS Office, Lotus Notes, Photoshop, and the like. They're taking one out of IBM's play book in that they are willing to use open source agreements to establish a standard and then be the foremost product to take advantage of the standard once its set. They're letting others build the market for them, and then planning to release the best product in the market once it's there.

    As mobile networks are getting increasingly fast, you can expect phones in coming years to be running off a product similar to Chrome because it's more efficient to leave the processing power in a Google cloud and improve battery life and speed by letting the speed of the network be the constraint, not the speed of the device.

    Chrome is a genius idea even if the project dies next week. Microsoft and Mozilla have already released plans to compete with it based on the tab divisions (which means it's almost ready for corporate introduction--right now Google Docs is lost on the corporate market because you can't afford to lose a 20-page business proposal because PerezHilton locked up your Firefox and crashed it.)
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...chard.stallman

    Granted, he gets a bit too tinhatish for me, but I tend to agree on most points. Cloud computing is a buzzword imo, and has actually existed for a quite some time as SAAS. It has it's merits and places, but I don't think I will be moving towards this as my entire OS anytime in the near future.

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    I think the major application for it is more along the lines of mobile devices in the near future (which is the next major market for the internet anyways--Google already stands to lose a ton if mobile internet begins picking up a greater percentage of search usage because they can't fit as many ads per page.)

    Right now, I'm not disagreeing, because you generally consider the internet to run slower than desktop apps. It won't be long before that is no longer the case, and at that point, the system constraint will be stability and not speed. Google knows it has no direct control over fixing the current system constraint, so it's planning for the next constraint in order to maximize its marketability. It makes perfect sense from a business perspective--just because the general public isn't "ready" for it doesn't mean the best companies in the world shouldn't be. Would you have imagined 10 years ago that you would spend hours a day using social networking sites? The companies that did were able to take advantage of it. The companies that reacted to the market ended up like Zoints.

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